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Old 2004-11-02, 19:55   Link #41
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I dont see how any one when they were a kid could hate getting free candy and dressing up as an idiot and not be called a geeky cosplayer once a year Not that cosyplaying is geeky to me or im just a geek Being atheist myself i just take presents cause whos gonna refuse a present thats just rude!
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Old 2004-11-03, 22:12   Link #42
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They are just celebrating the new videotaped message by Osama Bin Laden.

"We will work to continue this battle, God permitting, until victory or until we meet God," -bin Laden-
my God can beat up his allah
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Old 2004-11-03, 22:27   Link #43
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my God can beat up his allah
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. They are the same deity.
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Old 2004-11-04, 21:05   Link #44
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That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. They are the same deity.
thats the most ignorant thing ive heard
no they are not
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Old 2004-11-04, 21:08   Link #45
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Old 2004-11-04, 21:37   Link #46
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my God can beat up his allah
I was going to throw in a George Carlin phrase about something being bigger, but I'll just stay on topic and say that I'll only celebrate Christmas as only time spent with the family.
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Old 2004-11-05, 09:10   Link #47
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thats the most ignorant thing ive heard
no they are not
If you do some research, you will find that most Muslims and Jews in the middle east do believe that they worship the same God. They just disagree as to whose side God is on, which goes back to the sons of Isaac (Jacob and Esau). The old testament and the qur'an are very similar until that point.
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Old 2004-11-05, 10:12   Link #48
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I dont want to insult anyone. I've find out that 80% of religion where created by the middle-east people wich was spread all over the world hundreds of years ago.

I donno about you guys but why always a prophet as to be middle-eastern ?
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Old 2004-11-05, 10:28   Link #49
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I dont want to insult anyone. I've find out that 80% of religion where created by the middle-east people wich was spread all over the world hundreds of years ago.

I donno about you guys but why always a prophet as to be middle-eastern ?
You're talking about the more prominant religions today. There are a lot of religions that have little or nothing to do with the middle east but are not well known. (Take the spiritual beliefs of the Native Americans for example.)

The "middle east" as we call it here in the states is thought to be the cradle of life, where humans first walked the earth. Doesn't it make sense then that many religions would come from such a place?

You're thinking too much in terms of race and national origin, and not in terms of historical context.
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Old 2004-11-05, 12:39   Link #50
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If you do some research, you will find that most Muslims and Jews in the middle east do believe that they worship the same God. They just disagree as to whose side God is on, which goes back to the sons of Isaac (Jacob and Esau). The old testament and the qur'an are very similar until that point.
they do not, actually
while christians and muslims believe in Jesus, muslims believe that he is a minor prophet, while christians believe Jesus to be their God
and the teachings are pretty different, the koran and the bible
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Old 2004-11-05, 13:00   Link #51
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Who told you that?
Jesus is not a god for christians. Hes gods son, but still a human (although that might not be correct for some of all those christian churches..)

The christian god is said to be the same god as the muslims and jews god.
After all, those 3 religions are monotheistic, so there can be only one god, so it MUST be the same one. logic at its finest..hm?
Every one of them only state that their way of following that god is the right one.
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Old 2004-11-05, 13:16   Link #52
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I dont want to insult anyone. I've find out that 80% of religion where created by the middle-east people wich was spread all over the world hundreds of years ago.

I donno about you guys but why always a prophet as to be middle-eastern ?
What Briareos said. You can look it up...

Not all prophets hail from the Middle East. Check out Joseph Smith, he's as American as I am, although I am less of a prophet or Mormon than he was...
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Old 2004-11-05, 13:58   Link #53
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Who told you that?
Jesus is not a god for christians. Hes gods son, but still a human (although that might not be correct for some of all those christian churches..)

The christian god is said to be the same god as the muslims and jews god.
After all, those 3 religions are monotheistic, so there can be only one god, so it MUST be the same one. logic at its finest..hm?
Every one of them only state that their way of following that god is the right one.
he is
God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the one and the same, accorinding to christian belief
Jesus was just God in human form
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Old 2004-11-05, 14:12   Link #54
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Now those are typical things the churches disagree about.
Only thing I know is, for catholic church, what you wrote is just wrong.

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Old 2004-11-05, 14:27   Link #55
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That Joseph Smith as been following middle-eastern bible. Anyways its easy to say: Hey ! i saw jesus... i saw god ! im a prophet ! beleave me.

Ok you have american indian's god, Buddha, Inkas god and greek's god. But the rest of the religion are made from the middle-east... where's tons and tons of middle-east religions.. I cant name them all cause, every day there's a leader... look at them.
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Old 2004-11-05, 14:43   Link #56
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he is
God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the one and the same, accorinding to christian belief
Jesus was just God in human form
Look at it this way. If two people describe the creation of the world (something no person has seen) in two completely different ways, they're still talking about the same world -- even if they understand it differently.

Christians, Jews and Muslims all have different understandings of the same God. Their differing views don't mean that there are three Gods.
What you may be thinking of is the phrase "my God" or "the Hebrew God" from the Old Testament. Many of the cultures surrounding the ancient Hebrews believed in many gods. There were deities in those religions for many things. The singular God of the Hebrews was certainly different from the many gods and idols worshiped at the time.
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That Joseph Smith as been following middle-eastern bible. Anyways its easy to say: Hey ! i saw jesus... i saw god ! im a prophet ! beleave me.

Ok you have american indian's god, Buddha, Inkas god and greek's god. But the rest of the religion are made from the middle-east... where's tons and tons of middle-east religions.. I cant name them all cause, every day there's a leader... look at them.
Prophecy doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religion, and neither do morality and spirituality. Someone can be moral and spiritual, and even a prophet without being religious.
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Old 2004-11-05, 14:57   Link #57
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Old 2004-11-05, 15:08   Link #58
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Did anyone eard of the scale of the univerce ?

... unlimited @ string @ proton @ atom @ DNA @ cells @To bacteria @ apple @ earth @ solar system @ galaxies @ many univercies @ unlimited...

Numbers are unlimited..

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/j...su/powersof10/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/scale.html
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Old 2004-11-05, 16:40   Link #59
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whoever came up with that has good information, but doesnt interpret it well
the bible isnt to be taken literally on all points, lots of figurative language, tower of babel was the actual concept of being equal to God, psalms were pretty much poems written by kings, etc, etc
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Old 2004-11-05, 16:55   Link #60
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Numbers are unlimited..
So what?...
Whats that got to do with christmas holydays?
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