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Old 2011-04-28, 23:09   Link #10021
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Can we get back to discussing Index?
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Old 2011-04-28, 23:11   Link #10022
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Of course the answer could be as simple as Heaven Canceller injected him some of the good old Dark Legacy...
Wouldn't that be negated, i mean it's like so hax that it must be supernatural?
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Wouldn't that be negated, i mean it's like so hax that it must be supernatural?
Dont know what dark legacy is yet so we can't say
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Wouldn't that be negated, i mean it's like so hax that it must be supernatural?
Possibly. It might even be similar to or even a derivative of Dark Matter/Telesma/AIM Field/whatever the hell it really is.
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Old 2011-04-28, 23:13   Link #10025
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Possibly. It might even be similar to or even a derivative of Dark Matter/Telesma/AIM Field/whatever the hell it really is.
If it's any one of what you said then it'll be negated
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If it's any one of what you said then it'll be negated
Hence the "possibly".
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Old 2011-04-28, 23:19   Link #10027
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Hence the "possibly".
Hence the "If".
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Old 2011-04-28, 23:21   Link #10028
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You guys remember that whole thing we got caught up in a month ago about Accel's wings?
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you mean the debate on what Accel's wings are made of?
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Old 2011-04-28, 23:36   Link #10030
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Note: Since I got #10,000, I'll let someone else have the honor of #10,032.

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No. Tbh. This is the first time this thread has been alive since V22
You don't remember that? It was hilarious looking back.

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you mean the debate on what Accel's wings are made of?
Yup. I was claiming they were Dark Matter, Chaos said they were AIM, and a bunch of other people were saying a bunch of other things since the accounts contradicted each other.

Anyway, here's something for the debate: We all believed we were getting contradictory accounts and that they could only be one thing, but was that really the case? The observations classifying them as one thing or another were made based on the personal experiences of people who were familiar with what they were basing their observation on. Could it be that Dark Matter, Telesma, and AIM are actually at their most basic the same thing, but slightly change depending on how they're being observed and utilized?
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Old 2011-04-28, 23:39   Link #10031
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Note: Since I got #10,000, I'll let someone else have the honor of #10,032.



You don't remember that? It was hilarious looking back.



Yup. I was claiming they were Dark Matter, Chaos said they were AIM, and a bunch of other people were saying a bunch of other things since the accounts contradicted each other.

Anyway, here's something for the debate: We all believed we were getting contradictory accounts and that they could only be one thing, but was that really the case? The observations classifying them as one thing or another were made based on the personal experiences of people who were familiar with what they were basing their observation on. Could it be that Dark Matter, Telesma, and AIM are actually at their most basic the same thing, but slightly change depending on how they're being observed and utilized?
Slightly changing it shouldn't be so fatal that someone who use AIM can die from using Telesma

EDIT: Jackpot!
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Slightly changing it shouldn't be so fatal that someone who use AIM can die from using Telesma
Do we know that AIM and Telesma react like that? Kakine had a revelation about the nature of Esper powers that cause him to manifest even more powerful wings. Maybe the problem isn't that AIM users are dying from using Telesma and vice versa, but that AIM users are dying from trying to use Telesma like AIM and vice versa? If they're only familiar with one method, that's how they'll try to use it.
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Old 2011-04-29, 00:17   Link #10033
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Do we know that AIM and Telesma react like that? Kakine had a revelation about the nature of Esper powers that cause him to manifest even more powerful wings. Maybe the problem isn't that AIM users are dying from using Telesma and vice versa, but that AIM users are dying from trying to use Telesma like AIM and vice versa? If they're only familiar with one method, that's how they'll try to use it.
Looks like we need to ask Tsuchimikado (But he's a liar) ==''
Strange, i mean, he's originally a magician so his esper power should have backfired even though it's healing power.

If your theory is correct, then Tsuchimikado must have changed from "Using Mana like Mana" and "AIM like ???" to "AIM like AIM" and "Mana like AIM", resulting in him having consequences using magic but not esper ability.

Do you think Dark Matter categorise under AIM or something in the same category as AIM and Telesma?
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Do you think Dark Matter categorise under AIM or something in the same category as AIM and Telesma?
I'd put it in the same category, since that's what Kakine believed Accel's wings were made of. Though it's possible that Dark Matter is actually what AIM and Telesma are derived from, since it seems to be far more variable than the other two.
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Didn't index say it wasn't AIM?
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Didn't index say it wasn't AIM?
My theory is that AIM and Telesma are still different, just derived from the same source. Think of it this way: Depending on how you look at light through a diamond/crystal, the refraction will change, but the light is still light. The refractions are AIM, Telesma, and Dark Matter (possibly), while the light is whatever makes AIM, Telesma, and Dark Matter (possibly)
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I bet ur gonna get a kick if it none of the above
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Old 2011-04-29, 00:31   Link #10038
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I bet ur gonna get a kick if it none of the above
It's something to be discussed, at least. And is does explain the Tsuchimikado scenario, which IppoTsuko explained.
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Old 2011-04-29, 00:33   Link #10040
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Wouldn't that be negated, i mean it's like so hax that it must be supernatural?
By that definition, Touma should be able to negate an orbital laser amirite?

Until otherwise, it'll be classified as technology.

But it does beg the question; are equdark matter weapon considered technology or supernatural? They specifically stated that it's completely different from the Dark Matter that it's created from...
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