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Old 2011-05-07, 11:22   Link #3101
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Well I will admit I'm a little sad we don't get to see Edo Lucy's juicy thighs here but heh what can you do.
Edit it in photoshop.

Though I admit I'm still a noob with photoshop (especially when it comes to mimicking the anime's look rather than other styles) so likely some other fan will beat me too it.

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The beginning of this episode was great for me, lots of sympathy for poor Happy...Edo intro was a bit too long, but the FT scenes were hilarious. Can't wait to get into the plot of this arc!
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Old 2011-05-07, 12:48   Link #3102
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I actually think having Lucy wear more clothing makes more sense anyways. I mean Lucy wasn't that conservative to begin with so having her wear a bit less would only be adding instead of going in the reverse for her character. Besides I think the apparent aggressiveness of her character is a much better way to show her change.

Anyways this should be interesting to see the changes. Is it just personalities or are the magics going to go in opposite directions? Should be interesting to see the personality shift in Mirajane. Since she started off tough and thanks to that incident changed into the other extreme. So could stay tough to compare with her current state in the normal world or have her just stay cheerful and polite from the start.

But anyways I really wonder how they are going to fix this situation. Everyone's personality has been messed up and actually getting the guild back will be tricky.

When they were flying up just remembered to think 'where's Gajeel?' He should have been somewhere when the city got blasted like that. Being a dragon slayer too you'd figure he was just as immune to the effects.

Also yeah cute disguise for Wendy .
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Old 2011-05-07, 13:21   Link #3103
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I actually think having Lucy wear more clothing makes more sense anyways. I mean Lucy wasn't that conservative to begin with so having her wear a bit less would only be adding instead of going in the reverse for her character. Besides I think the apparent aggressiveness of her character is a much better way to show her change.

Anyways this should be interesting to see the changes. Is it just personalities or are the magics going to go in opposite directions? Should be interesting to see the personality shift in Mirajane. Since she started off tough and thanks to that incident changed into the other extreme. So could stay tough to compare with her current state in the normal world or have her just stay cheerful and polite from the start.

But anyways I really wonder how they are going to fix this situation. Everyone's personality has been messed up and actually getting the guild back will be tricky.

When they were flying up just remembered to think 'where's Gajeel?' He should have been somewhere when the city got blasted like that. Being a dragon slayer too you'd figure he was just as immune to the effects.

Also yeah cute disguise for Wendy .
Trying hard to bite my tongue and not mention spoilers. Lets just say all the info you need is already there to figure this out... (as to both everyone's changes and Gajeel)

Can't wait to see the anime only people start speculating on the matter now that I mentioned that I won't say if your right not either

BTW the anime has now covered up to chapter 169 (yes, that means it was only a 1 chapter gain from last week which covered ch 168) so if you want answers right away you can start reading the series from chapter 170. So far each ep of this arc has only covered a single 20 page chapter or 2 and has been mostly filler... kinda scarey thought if that will be the case for the whole arc. Oh, well... maybe they'll do a good job with it, after all this ep was rather funny
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Old 2011-05-07, 13:39   Link #3104
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Also without going into spoilers, I'm pretty sure there weren't many or any jokes about Edo Lucy's lack of cloths in the manga.
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Can't wait to get into the plot of this arc!
You're sure to enjoy it, because Fairy Tail always delivers.
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Old 2011-05-07, 13:43   Link #3105
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I actually think having Lucy wear more clothing makes more sense anyways. I mean Lucy wasn't that conservative to begin with so having her wear a bit less would only be adding instead of going in the reverse for her character. Besides I think the apparent aggressiveness of her character is a much better way to show her change.
I totally agree with you here. She looks more menacing here than slutty looking. Also, considering the timeslot, they had to do this or add lame censors to it. The manga image shown above essentially gives a crotch shot, which apparently does not bode well with the anime censor bureau lately.

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But anyways I really wonder how they are going to fix this situation. Everyone's personality has been messed up and actually getting the guild back will be tricky.
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When they were flying up just remembered to think 'where's Gajeel?' He should have been somewhere when the city got blasted like that. Being a dragon slayer too you'd figure he was just as immune to the effects.
I was thinking about that, too. However, my guess is that it probably has something to do with the cats. Also, Natsu mentioned that only Gildarts remained, so I am guessing everyone else in Fairy Tail was transported over.

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Old 2011-05-07, 14:19   Link #3106
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^Nice speculation thundrakkon. Can't say if your right or not but it was a very logical and thought out speculations. Kudos.

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Exactly.
Hmm... not sure I agree. Can't get into details due to spoilers but a large enough portion of her character is Lucy being compared to Lucy and this point was mentioned flat out (we know the scene(s) I'm referring to). It may not be much like you stress but it was enough to be a cannon part of Lucy's character (and a great joke which had me laughing for days). I mean the panties was one thing due to ratings and such... but did they also have to zip up the outfit.

Lets face it the Lucy we know would never choose to reveal that much and not flipout about it being seen that way, yet Edo Lucy was supposed to strut down the street like it wasn't a big deal. Lucy's a very hot girl and hot girls everywhere fell at least the temptation to dress "hot" due to societal pressure to be sexy. So I see how she goes about not caring about being seen with that little as more key of a personality change than wearing more... Gray's already covered this plot angle, so Lucy doing the same feels forced IMHO.

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Old 2011-05-07, 14:42   Link #3107
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Again without going into spoilers, I'm pretty sure there were no jokes about clothes between the Lucy's.
If we're refering to a scene to show up later the 2 of them are standing on "equal" ground when the jokes come.

One way to look at it all is, Earthland Lucy dresses rather on the thin side but thats cause she is willing to flaunt her assests but doesn't like being exposed. Where as Edo Lucy could be that she dresses more but isn't afraid to expose anything.

As far as I can tell it's a small change that really won't affect anything.
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Old 2011-05-07, 14:49   Link #3108
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My speculations:

1. This is a parallel world where everyone is their exact opposites

2. Carls/Happy are some type of royal species that seems to be the ruling class in this world. My guess from the way those people acted is that these cat like people rule with the very magic they drain from the other world, and they are probably cruel.

3. Gajeel will find his partner in this world.

4. Mystogan was originally from this world, thus there were two in the original one. Mystogan was the exact opposite.

5. Carles mentions something about betraying wendy/natsu. It would seem that this other world sent in babies to find out those people with dragon magic. For what reason who knows, but obviously for their own benefits.

Love where this anime is going! I will interested to see if some of my predictions are right!
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Old 2011-05-07, 19:08   Link #3109
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If they had animated that scene with Lucy dressed the way she was in the manga, I might have died from blood loss on the spot. I guess I should count myself lucky - but damn, what a way to go...
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Old 2011-05-07, 21:32   Link #3110
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Well I was wrong about Lucy-clone being a boy it seems. And about Edolas being a dream world.
But it really did give off a sort of Alice in Wonderland feel.

Although if this Fairy Tail is supposed to be opposite Fairy Tail why are Max, Warren, Macao and Wakaba the same? Unless next episode we find out Max has no business sense and Macao is happily married.
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Old 2011-05-07, 23:40   Link #3111
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@Bonta Kun

Incorrect. Read it again...

The scene starts with someone quickly adding a layer because someone else was carefree, so she didn't start on "equal" ground but ended up that way. Then an argument occurs about the attitude one took at being so casual.

The response given by the subject in question sums up my point nicely.

I agree that nothing major will be changed but I do fear that an amazing joke and more importantly the set up to it are ruined though. sigh... that joke was as awesome as Gajeel looking for his cat IMHO
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Old 2011-05-08, 01:52   Link #3112
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At least now Mystogan's personality makes plenty of sense. Was pretty quiet and just felt different from Jellal. Pretty impressive that he was going around and doing missions while on top of that protecting that world from anima. Do think it probably would have been a good idea for him to consult with Makarov about this situation, of course I suppose it's possible he did to some extent, but there really wasn't much that could be done about the one that took out the guild.
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Trying hard to bite my tongue and not mention spoilers. Lets just say all the info you need is already there to figure this out... (as to both everyone's changes and Gajeel)

Can't wait to see the anime only people start speculating on the matter now that I mentioned that I won't say if your right not either

BTW the anime has now covered up to chapter 169 (yes, that means it was only a 1 chapter gain from last week which covered ch 168) so if you want answers right away you can start reading the series from chapter 170. So far each ep of this arc has only covered a single 20 page chapter or 2 and has been mostly filler... kinda scarey thought if that will be the case for the whole arc. Oh, well... maybe they'll do a good job with it, after all this ep was rather funny
I have no doubt that it's tough to stay silent when you just know the answers . Of course glad you have managed to since I'm looking forward to seeing the truth first hand.

Certainly have to take into consideration the possibility that this isn't the kidnapped group, but just their opposites in this world. While they got through in a slightly different fashion we haven't seen any real personality changes from Natsu or Wendy. Plus would wonder about the point of dropping them in there, flipping their personalities, and then letting them go about their business. If the point is to just grab magic for that world could have taken everyone somewhere else and are draining their magic somehow.

It's definitely easier to predict some changes compared to others. Simple to flip Gray's personality and have him wear a stupid amount of clothes. Though his comment about getting chills easily makes me really wonder if the magics are different for each character. Be funny enough if Gray was using fire magic and to see Natsu's expression .

I can't imagine Gajeel is going to miss out on this arc. So he's got to show up somewhere in that world. Maybe not being a dragon slayer with a cat didn't protect him....Of course possible during this incident another cat could have popped onto the scene and Gajeel will catch up.

Anyways without easily being able to use magic this will be tough. Natsu has a pretty direct approach to things so tough on him. In terms of the cats hanging around Dragon Slayers, I wonder if it has to do with their ability to restore magic. I mean just eating their respective element charges them right up. In a world like this where magic is so rare if they could find a way to duplicate that kind of power it would completely solve their problems. Maybe the cats are there for the very reason to examine and understand dragon slayer magic.
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Old 2011-05-08, 02:23   Link #3113
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At least now Mystogan's personality makes plenty of sense. Was pretty quiet and just felt different from Jellal. Pretty impressive that he was going around and doing missions while on top of that protecting that world from anima. Do think it probably would have been a good idea for him to consult with Makarov about this situation, of course I suppose it's possible he did to some extent, but there really wasn't much that could be done about the one that took out the guild.
I have no doubt that it's tough to stay silent when you just know the answers . Of course glad you have managed to since I'm looking forward to seeing the truth first hand.

Certainly have to take into consideration the possibility that this isn't the kidnapped group, but just their opposites in this world. While they got through in a slightly different fashion we haven't seen any real personality changes from Natsu or Wendy. Plus would wonder about the point of dropping them in there, flipping their personalities, and then letting them go about their business. If the point is to just grab magic for that world could have taken everyone somewhere else and are draining their magic somehow.

It's definitely easier to predict some changes compared to others. Simple to flip Gray's personality and have him wear a stupid amount of clothes. Though his comment about getting chills easily makes me really wonder if the magics are different for each character. Be funny enough if Gray was using fire magic and to see Natsu's expression .

I can't imagine Gajeel is going to miss out on this arc. So he's got to show up somewhere in that world. Maybe not being a dragon slayer with a cat didn't protect him....Of course possible during this incident another cat could have popped onto the scene and Gajeel will catch up.

Anyways without easily being able to use magic this will be tough. Natsu has a pretty direct approach to things so tough on him. In terms of the cats hanging around Dragon Slayers, I wonder if it has to do with their ability to restore magic. I mean just eating their respective element charges them right up. In a world like this where magic is so rare if they could find a way to duplicate that kind of power it would completely solve their problems. Maybe the cats are there for the very reason to examine and understand dragon slayer magic.
Oh, it's hard... though the hardest part is trying to figure out just how to reply once I've committed to not saying spoilers and choosing to respond anyways. I sometimes have to edit it like mad to avoid posting even hints. So I'll keep this simple...

You and others have had some good speculations though I won't comment on the accuracy of any of them other than some maybe way off and others dead on, though I stress the maybe . There will be some answers next week, and the week after, and the one after that, and... etc... or you could just pick up the manga at ch 170

Though I will say I'm rather shocked over the lack of speculation over Mystogan's backstory... I mean guessing why he looks like Jerral has been done a lot but how he ended up in Earthland (the world the story has been taking place in before Edolas was introduced) closing Anima's isn't something I recall see speculating about. I recall when I got to this point in the manga I was was trying like hell to figure out what would be up with him and how he became tangled up in this. After all this does appear to be either Mystogan, Gildartz, and/or Lisanna's story based on the intro (Almost let that spoiler hint slip ) back when this was new and coming out in the manga I just kinda saw much of the rest as trivial and not important since it's clear due the trend in the series that everyone would be fine like always by arcs end. Won't say if my speculation was right of course...
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Old 2011-05-08, 03:16   Link #3114
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Well I was wrong about Lucy-clone being a boy it seems.
I wish you weren't wrong, because that would have been awesome.
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Old 2011-05-08, 04:08   Link #3115
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This speculation is making me sad because a lot of it makes so much more sense than what's actually going to happen (obviously I won't say which is which). I have a lot of hope for the anime though, because this is an arc where adding more scenes here and there could help a lot.
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Personally i think they have done a superb job on the adaptation of the story from the manga.
Lets see how will they continue with the series because i think the edolas arc is simply one of the best arcs in the entire fairy tail story.
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At least now Mystogan's personality makes plenty of sense. Was pretty quiet and just felt different from Jellal. Pretty impressive that he was going around and doing missions while on top of that protecting that world from anima. Do think it probably would have been a good idea for him to consult with Makarov about this situation, of course I suppose it's possible he did to some extent, but there really wasn't much that could be done about the one that took out the guild.
I have no doubt that it's tough to stay silent when you just know the answers . Of course glad you have managed to since I'm looking forward to seeing the truth first hand.

Certainly have to take into consideration the possibility that this isn't the kidnapped group, but just their opposites in this world. While they got through in a slightly different fashion we haven't seen any real personality changes from Natsu or Wendy. Plus would wonder about the point of dropping them in there, flipping their personalities, and then letting them go about their business. If the point is to just grab magic for that world could have taken everyone somewhere else and are draining their magic somehow.

It's definitely easier to predict some changes compared to others. Simple to flip Gray's personality and have him wear a stupid amount of clothes. Though his comment about getting chills easily makes me really wonder if the magics are different for each character. Be funny enough if Gray was using fire magic and to see Natsu's expression .

I can't imagine Gajeel is going to miss out on this arc. So he's got to show up somewhere in that world. Maybe not being a dragon slayer with a cat didn't protect him....Of course possible during this incident another cat could have popped onto the scene and Gajeel will catch up.

Anyways without easily being able to use magic this will be tough. Natsu has a pretty direct approach to things so tough on him. In terms of the cats hanging around Dragon Slayers, I wonder if it has to do with their ability to restore magic. I mean just eating their respective element charges them right up. In a world like this where magic is so rare if they could find a way to duplicate that kind of power it would completely solve their problems. Maybe the cats are there for the very reason to examine and understand dragon slayer magic.
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Oh, it's hard... though the hardest part is trying to figure out just how to reply once I've committed to not saying spoilers and choosing to respond anyways. I sometimes have to edit it like mad to avoid posting even hints. So I'll keep this simple...

You and others have had some good speculations though I won't comment on the accuracy of any of them other than some maybe way off and others dead on, though I stress the maybe . There will be some answers next week, and the week after, and the one after that, and... etc... or you could just pick up the manga at ch 170

Though I will say I'm rather shocked over the lack of speculation over Mystogan's backstory... I mean guessing why he looks like Jerral has been done a lot but how he ended up in Earthland (the world the story has been taking place in before Edolas was introduced) closing Anima's isn't something I recall see speculating about. I recall when I got to this point in the manga I was was trying like hell to figure out what would be up with him and how he became tangled up in this. After all this does appear to be either Mystogan, Gildartz, and/or Lisanna's story based on the intro (Almost let that spoiler hint slip ) back when this was new and coming out in the manga I just kinda saw much of the rest as trivial and not important since it's clear due the trend in the series that everyone would be fine like always by arcs end. Won't say if my speculation was right of course...
it's not difficult to stay silent depending on your personality. last time, I like to boisterously talk or hint about spoilers, but it seems like my real dark personality takes over these days, and I just enjoy laughing quietly at some of the off-the-mark speculations in the different series, or go to the manga/LN thread and laugh out loud at the speculations (my fantasy, it hasn't happen yet)
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Old 2011-05-08, 16:12   Link #3118
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As an anime-only viewer... and also giving in to clicking on the that spoiler tag which shows the two Lucys, I think that alt-Lucy's debut was frickin awesome!
The difference in clothes is a separate issue, so lets put that aside. The "てぇめぇら" and "何こそこそしてやがる" made me piss myself laughing!!! When have we EVER heard the Lucy we know speak in that manner?
Looks like Hirano Aya is gonna be using her Kaoru (Zettai Karen Children) voice for the rest of the arc.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Natsu and Happy reaction...
"LUCY?!!!"
"-SAN?!"
... this had me laughing for a solid few minutes.

For this particular arc, I am a bit pissed off at the spoiler galore opening. Because of the opening, we already know that the rest of the guild hasn't changed but there's just an alt-version of everyone in this world.
Has anyone noticed the equivalent Aizen Ichiya in the opening?
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