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Old 2011-05-25, 02:57   Link #81
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Any idea when we will get to see the English versions of these? It's been sooo long since I read the translation for book 9, good thing I found this post, just saw a post on /a/ that the 10/11th books were out.
I don't know about unofficial translations, but the Little, Brown editions for the English market should be available in winter of 2013/2014. We just got #5 and they're released at a rate of about 1 every 6 months. No clue if they'll release both of the Surprise volumes at the same time, though. (Presuming that Hachette/Little, Brown have the license for Surprise in addition to the current 9.)

Unofficial translations could pop anywhere between next week and two months from now. It depends on who is willing to translate, how much time they have to translate, and so on.
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Old 2011-05-25, 03:17   Link #82
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So I need to somewhat apologize: I left out something in the BIG spoilers earlier because I didn't have enough confidence to put it. Now, with something else I can elaborate.

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So does that have anything to do with the earlier novels concerning the attempted murder of the boy who would invent time travel?

Or are they brushing it off as "something they had to do because of pre-determined events" and get away with it?

(You know, like "I wasn't going to succeed anyway, so it doesn't really count as murder")
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Old 2011-05-25, 03:26   Link #83
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So does that have anything to do with the earlier novels concerning the attempted murder of the boy who would invent time travel?
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Old 2011-05-25, 04:33   Link #84
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The problem is the implied paradox that time travellers are unable to change what they know about history. I was merely pointing out if he could justify his actions purely via "because history said I would do it".

There is also the major issue about a certain essay Haruhi wrote for the literature club relating to that boy... Does Fujiwara know of it, or did Mikuru keep that a secret from the organisation and everyone else?
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Old 2011-05-25, 04:44   Link #85
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Also, fate isn't a paradox, it's the law!

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Old 2011-05-25, 05:00   Link #86
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Old 2011-05-25, 05:12   Link #87
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Old 2011-05-25, 07:02   Link #88
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You are assuming Mikuru Asahina is using her real name.

If I was to run a time cop agency, I would make sure all my agents work under full aliases. It simply doesn't make sense to use birth names that might cause issues when in the Past. That is unless, of course, Mikuru is forced to use her real name because of temporal consistency. But I find that unlikely.
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Old 2011-05-25, 07:06   Link #89
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Good point. But then again, it's never really suggested she's using an alias. Even though it would be logical from the policy you suggested and the mysteries behind the three factions, it's going a bit far to suspect Mikuru of using an alias. I mean if she is using one, anybody could be using one!

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Old 2011-05-25, 07:18   Link #90
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Picked up the Chinese version. Hoping to start reading it within the week.

Thank goodness it's not the last novel!
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Old 2011-05-25, 07:48   Link #91
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So here's a little summary of what happens character by character in the different "routes":

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Spoiler for beta:


Spoiler for end part:


And a confirmation of something I speculated earlier:
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Old 2011-05-25, 08:08   Link #92
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So here's a little summary of what happens character by character in the different "routes":

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Spoiler for beta:


Spoiler for end part:


And a confirmation of something I speculated earlier:
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Spoiler for q:
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Old 2011-05-25, 08:43   Link #93
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Old 2011-05-25, 10:06   Link #94
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Yes and Yes

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So for non-spoiler fans (are there still some out there?), here's the layout of the two novels:
The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (First Part):
Chapter 4: pg. 5-67
Chapter 5: pg. 68-188
Chapter 6: pg. 189-291

The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (Final Part) (I've also used (Latter Part) to signal that it's not the last novel, but since that news has gotten out, I'm referring back to this):
Chapter 7: pg. 5-78
Chapter 8: pg. 79-135
Chapter 9: pg. 136-148
Final Chapter: pg. 149-221
Epilogue: pg. 222-276
Afterword: pg. 276-282
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Old 2011-05-25, 10:21   Link #95
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So the two novels, despite being two separate items, actually continue from one to another huh.

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Old 2011-05-25, 12:40   Link #97
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Makes one wonder where they will go in Book 12.
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Old 2011-05-25, 14:37   Link #98
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Old 2011-05-25, 16:13   Link #100
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