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Old 2011-05-29, 18:55   Link #3021
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I don't know if some of you already saw this, but check it out:
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Wait- is that from Glory of Losers, or FT...!? The style (manga panels, obvs..) looks like it must be Glory, but they're not even close to the point of Wing ZERO vs Epyon yet, so...?

Unless I was right about Snow White etc just being codenames for rebuilds of Wing ZERO etc. :| In which case OH COME ON.

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Didn't it come out on the 26th?
Gundam Ace comes out on Sundays. Koryakukan just always seems to get info before release... Kind of like the monthly leaks of Famitsu, etc.

EDIT: Rei's blog post about the new chapter: http://pixiv.cc/usabiba/archives/2747701.html
She also appears to be surprised that apparently Glory skipped ahead to Heero and Zechs' battle.. O_o
She also muses a lot about the new FT chapter, which Relena-heavy apparently (possibly with a flashback or two?). Discussion about Heero killing Relena etc. Can someone translate?
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Old 2011-05-29, 18:57   Link #3022
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I think it's GoL. The images of Snow White and Warlock made it pretty obvious that there's no way they could be Wing Zero and Deathscythe Hell. No wings.
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Old 2011-05-29, 19:41   Link #3023
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I think it's GoL. The images of Snow White and Warlock made it pretty obvious that there's no way they could be Wing Zero and Deathscythe Hell. No wings.
Ehhhh... They could (both) be folded up- I mean, those cloaked bodies were pretty hulking. But I really hope you're right ;B

Yeah, according to Rei's blog post, it is GoL. As to why they suddenly skipped so far ahead... v9_6v

EDIT: (again lol) Just noticed this uploaded a few days ago on pixiv: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.p...st_id=19204660
Spoiler for those that can't see pixiv:

Someone mentioned on the last page a rumor about Zechs having an angelic MS with a halo weapon. This illustration is tagged FrozenTeardrop :B Whether the rumor is true or not... well, I guess we'll see in a few days.
(Also Wing Gundam with a GERWALK mode? lol)
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Old 2011-05-29, 20:31   Link #3024
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Bodies, yeah, but even then, there's nowhere they could hide the wings. Not unless they're supposed to be added onto the machines later after the cloaks are removed.
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Old 2011-05-29, 22:06   Link #3025
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I'm really trying to speculate on the reasoning for GoL skipping ahead but I can't come up with any legitimate reasons. It's just odd on so many levels. Didn't Quatre and Trowa battle in the previous chapter? Weird...
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Old 2011-05-29, 23:17   Link #3026
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Considering how this revival project's been thus far, these "odd" happenings are pretty much par for the friggin' course.
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Old 2011-05-30, 02:55   Link #3027
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Another blog post about the new FT chapter, with doodles to go with it: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/lemi-yamasaki1...e6311cc0a06db2

Seems like in this chapter, Heero and Relena speak to each other for the first time since being unfrozen?
The cliffhanger of the chapter seems to be Zechs' appearance with his new MS.

(Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone who can actually read the Japanese)
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Old 2011-05-30, 08:31   Link #3028
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(Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone who can actually read the Japanese)
Yay yay, I happen to know one, that's Mr. Google translator. ahaha
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Old 2011-05-30, 09:36   Link #3029
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Yay yay, I happen to know one, that's Mr. Google translator. ahaha
Man, there is no decent online or installed translation software (at least for asian languages)..........you would have to translate line by line, and rearrange the sentence so that it makes sense

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I think it's GoL. The images of Snow White and Warlock made it pretty obvious that there's no way they could be Wing Zero and Deathscythe Hell. No wings.
unless they are the custom version of the wing zero, at least, which could fold its wings............looking at the covers of the first chapters, the Gundam that it is on the background is the custom version of the Wing Gundam (at the time, I thought that THAT would be the Snow white, because only recently I've learnt of the custom version of the wing gundam), meaning that it COULD BE Wing Zero Custom...........but hopefully, its a new gundam (doesn't need to have the Zero System, as we saw that in the animated Endless Waltz, the Zero System doesn't play and important part)

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Old 2011-05-30, 15:08   Link #3030
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..As in, other than Google or Excite translator, both of which I've already run it through.

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unless they are the custom version of the wing zero, at least, which could fold its wings............looking at the covers of the first chapters, the Gundam that it is on the background is the custom version of the Wing Gundam (at the time, I thought that THAT would be the Snow white, because only recently I've learnt of the custom version of the wing gundam), meaning that it COULD BE Wing Zero Custom...........but hopefully, its a new gundam (doesn't need to have the Zero System, as we saw that in the animated Endless Waltz, the Zero System doesn't play and important part)
That's what I was saying. Both D-Hell and WZ Custom can fold their wings in well enough that with those bigass cloaks over them, they could very well be hidden- but I really hope that's not the case.

But the ZERO System already has played an important part. The VR glasses and the system used to 'reupload' Heero's memories was an extrapolated version of ZERO, I thought they said. Or at least they called it ZERO (version.. something or another).
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Old 2011-05-30, 15:22   Link #3031
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Except, with wings as large as Wing Zero and Deathscythe Hell's, there would still be signs, and the folded wings would get in the way of the mobile suits' articulation. Snow White and Warlock do not show such signs. The only way they'd be a rebuilt Wing Zero and Deathscythe Hell is if they removed the wings entirely.
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Old 2011-05-30, 22:08   Link #3032
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Seems like in this chapter, Heero and Relena speak to each other for the first time since being unfrozen?
Please Sumizawa, PLEASE. Let these two finally see each other. And please let them have a moment of epicness together, PLEASE. It's been too long. TOO LONG. TT^TT
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Old 2011-05-30, 22:29   Link #3033
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That's what I was saying. Both D-Hell and WZ Custom can fold their wings in well enough that with those bigass cloaks over them, they could very well be hidden- but I really hope that's not the case.
I bet they'll look damn similar. They certainly didn't get too creative with new character designs...but I mean, if they ever hoped to have them show up in Gunpla form, it would be pretty stupid to reuse Gundam designs.

I bet they'll look like what D-Hell and WZ would look like if they showed up in Gundam 00 or something.
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Old 2011-05-30, 23:50   Link #3034
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I bet they'll look like what D-Hell and WZ would look like if they showed up in Gundam 00 or something.
Didn't Okawara design the 00 Gundams, though? Or was it mostly Seiichi Nakatani and Okawara just helped?

(And if you ask me, that's what the Katoki redesigns are ;P)
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Old 2011-05-31, 00:05   Link #3035
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Didn't Okawara design the 00 Gundams, though? Or was it mostly Seiichi Nakatani and Okawara just helped?

(And if you ask me, that's what the Katoki redesigns are ;P)
Okawara only designed the 0 Gundam, and the Alvaaron in Gundam 00. The rest were designed by Kanetake Ebikawa.
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Old 2011-05-31, 06:37   Link #3036
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Okawara only designed the 0 Gundam, and the Alvaaron in Gundam 00. The rest were designed by Kanetake Ebikawa.
...and the others. Ebikawa didn't designed the Thrones if i remember correctly.
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Old 2011-05-31, 09:57   Link #3037
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Didn't Okawara design the 00 Gundams, though? Or was it mostly Seiichi Nakatani and Okawara just helped?

(And if you ask me, that's what the Katoki redesigns are ;P)
Meh, I don't really follow who designed what. The MG D-Hell custom they just released...is, or is not Katoki? If that's the case, it's sure a pretty poor excuse for a "redesign." I didn't bother buying that one.

I'm gonna be sad if the Warlock isn't totally badass, though. And Snow White, too. But with a name like "Snow White," I'm not really getting my hopes up on that one.
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Old 2011-05-31, 10:01   Link #3038
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Meh, I don't really follow who designed what. The MG D-Hell custom they just released...is, or is not Katoki? If that's the case, it's sure a pretty poor excuse for a "redesign." I didn't bother buying that one.
The MG D-Hell Custom is Katoki. It's identical to the one from Endless Waltz, and even says "Endless Waltz" on the box.
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Old 2011-05-31, 11:55   Link #3039
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The MG D-Hell Custom is Katoki. It's identical to the one from Endless Waltz, and even says "Endless Waltz" on the box.
Yeah, the Deathscythe says Endless Waltz, too. I wasn't sure if Endless Waltz on box = Katoki. I'll have to look the designs up now, I'm way confused. There are a few designs I've seen that are almost completely redone, then a few that look the same, and it seems like a few that were never really redesigned? (I'm thinking of Deathscythe Hell from the series).

I can't keep up with what's what Guess I have to do my research.


On another note, hoping my copy of Ace shows up within the next week or so No one has found any illustrations for this month besides that one from GoL?
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Old 2011-05-31, 14:20   Link #3040
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Katoki designs = "Custom" = "Ver. Ka"* = "Ver./Endless Waltz"

Okawara designs = "TV" = no subtitle given (usually)

Haven't seen any new illustrations posted yet :/

*Not to be confused with 'Kai', which is the suffix for Sandrock and Heavyarms' second season upgrades (like Hell and ZERO are for Deathscythe and Wing's). This is why I dislike using the 'Ver. Ka' suffix and prefer 'Custom'.
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