Hajime no Ippo

[Fran~]

Originally Posted by cloak_and_dagger

Out of all those only the heartbreak shot is comparable to a two-ton counter to the noggin.

I'm not ignoring what you said about the weight of a champions fist etc, but I'd say Kojima's fist is pretty damn weighty, with his kid on the way and all.

You're correct... but for that very reason i posted about Ippo's training for this fight.

Kamogawa focused on Ippo's neck. Kojima's weakness is that he is not the protagonist. It's like Date fighting Martinez. Date's family was there and Date's put everything what he had. But Morikawa created Martinez as an invencible prodigy.

Back to the training, to Morikawa, Kamogawa is one hell of a trainer (despite our opinions ), so you can say that Kamogawa anticipated every observation that Miyata and the others did, so probably he knew Ippo's pattern and that Kojima could try that approach. That's the way that Ippo's wins goes, he trusts in Kamogawa's training so his body can endure anything on the ring. So if Kojima's punch is heavy, Kamogawa trained Ippo to endure it and fight back. That's why Takamura told him to fight like a champion and not as a challenger. Kojima even saw Ippo's will of fight and he hesitated for a second.

I think that is very unreasonable after hundreds of chapters to even think in an Ippo's loss. He is gonna win.

[Tsuyoshi]

Originally Posted by Fran~

I think that is very unreasonable after hundreds of chapters to even think in an Ippo's loss. He is gonna win.

Yeah, just that maybe it won't be as easy as people thought it would, which is kinda sad because now we're gonna see another horribly long and strenuous fight between them and Ippo's gonna make another of his typical comeback KO's when in all probability, his fight should've ended on the first punch in his favour.

[kenjiharima]

2 things

Ipoo head turn and the way his fists is in the chest area heart break shot.

Ippo wins. yay...ok where's my Sendo match.

[Undertaker]

I also think Ippo is going to win, because if he lost, I don't see how this manga can continue.

Not because Ippo is the main character and he shouldn't lose but because Ippo has no other approach. If this counter successfully take him down or leads to his defeat, I don't see how Ippo can continue as a boxer.

Not to mention it'll pissed off his hardcore fan base (including me), if this is what the past 15 shamelessly drawn-out chapters leads to.

[kakakka]

About the neck.

The training was for him to take the hits head on, not on the side. That pic with Ippo's head twisting, it's not what the training was about. In that exchange, the other guy looked like he won.

Though, Ippo's gloves looked like it hit the other guy, too. So, I guest I'll wait for further chapter(s).

[Xaturas]

You ppl shouldn't get your hopes up considering HNI pacing next chapter will show some inner thoughs of spectators and then 1-2 panels of ippo/opponent going down or doing other sh1t.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Fran~

You're correct... but for that very reason i posted about Ippo's training for this fight.

Kamogawa focused on Ippo's neck. Kojima's weakness is that he is not the protagonist. It's like Date fighting Martinez. Date's family was there and Date's put everything what he had. But Morikawa created Martinez as an invencible prodigy.

Back to the training, to Morikawa, Kamogawa is one hell of a trainer (despite our opinions ), so you can say that Kamogawa anticipated every observation that Miyata and the others did, so probably he knew Ippo's pattern and that Kojima could try that approach. That's the way that Ippo's wins goes, he trusts in Kamogawa's training so his body can endure anything on the ring. So if Kojima's punch is heavy, Kamogawa trained Ippo to endure it and fight back. That's why Takamura told him to fight like a champion and not as a challenger. Kojima even saw Ippo's will of fight and he hesitated for a second.

I think that is very unreasonable after hundreds of chapters to even think in an Ippo's loss. He is gonna win.

if ippo loses, the mangaka can restart Ippo's path for another 900 chapters.

[Undertaker]

At this point, I won't put it past Morikawa to pull a stun like this.



BTW, Xellos, is you sig. pic from one of those 80's Condor Heroes adaption?

[Dorfl]

Yup, both Xellos's sig and avatar show Barbara Yung in The Legend of the Condor Heroes. She was so cute, such a waste.

[kenjiharima]

Originally Posted by kakakka

About the neck.

The training was for him to take the hits head on, not on the side. That pic with Ippo's head twisting, it's not what the training was about. In that exchange, the other guy looked like he won.

Though, Ippo's gloves looked like it hit the other guy, too. So, I guest I'll wait for further chapter(s).

Agreed.

this is a manga where we see Ippo's training pays off, that's why he trains harder than everyone else.

Iam missing Sendo alot lately.....

[Fran~]

It would be so fun if Kojima broke his left hand now...

I re-read these chapters and i can say that everybody are agree that a punch like the one in the last chapter is lethal.

[Undertaker]

Oh yeah, but with the way this series going lately, Ippo probably bounce right back and win decisively hence keeping his defy the odd signature. But that would make this another shitty fight, IMO.

On the other hand, if Ippo didn't bounce right back and and got into his usual messy fight and barely pull out a win or worse if he lost (which I don't think would happen, BTW). In either case it just set Ippo back and creating another sense of venerability similar to early Damsey Roll. It would be even worse.

Either way right now I don't see really have a lot of hope for this match.

[Tiberium Wolf]

Unless Ippo used Date move... the one where he moves the face to lower the punch impact.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Originally Posted by Tiberium Wolf

Unless Ippo used Date move... the one where he moves the face to lower the punch impact.

Then why would they show his brain getting crushed though?

If they took that many chapters to show us a one punch counter knock out - I'm never reading this again.

[LeaD36]

btw did the author rlly spend a month, depicting a single punch in a fight? D:

[Tsuyoshi]

Originally Posted by LeaD36

btw did the author rlly spend a month, depicting a single punch in a fight? D:

Yes, yes he did.

[Undertaker]

And another month before that to show Ippo and the challenger getting ready in their locker room and heading toward the ring....


I don't ming slow moving plot (otherwise I won'y be a fan of this series for this long), put lately the pacing is just awful, no, actually horrendous....

[kenjiharima]

Anyways I love the crowd at the background reaction.

[Tsuyoshi]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Anyways I love the crowd at the background reaction.

Spoiler for image:

I have to wonder if they won't become clones again soon.

[ShiroiRyu]

Anyways, new chapter out ...
And no punch .. XD
But i liked it ... And i want a OHKO !