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Old 2011-06-05, 12:01   Link #14021
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Reuters says 14.
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Old 2011-06-05, 12:49   Link #14022
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Syrian TV says 4 dead in Israeli border gunfire
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...06-05-07-45-39
which is Hilarius when you consider that over 100 Syrian protesters have been killed over the weekend by the Syrian army, more then 30 of them today.

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Old 2011-06-05, 13:06   Link #14023
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which is Hilarius when you consider that over 100 Syrian protesters have been killed over the weekend by the Syrian army, more then 30 of them today.

"The camel cannot see the crookedness of its own neck"
You mean the authorities on both sides are playing "Who kills the most Syrian civilians" in Syria, both in the city and near the border?
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Old 2011-06-05, 13:23   Link #14024
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You mean the authorities on both sides are playing "Who kills the most Syrian civilians" in Syria, both in the city and near the border?
more like the authorities on one side are trying to distract attention away from the fact that they are massacring their own people, so they intentionally stir up provocation on the border with someone else.

I'll leave you to guess which is which.
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Old 2011-06-05, 13:30   Link #14025
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more like the authorities on one side are trying to distract attention away from the fact that they are massacring their own people, so they intentionally stir up provocation on the border with someone else.

I'll leave you to guess which is which.
This is a known phenom (at least to those who look past the soundbites)... the various factions are "famous" for taking care of internal disputes by disguising them under "Look! Its the Israelis again!" firefights.

"O darn, Moham got in the way of the rocket... I guess I win the next debate in council."
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Old 2011-06-05, 14:09   Link #14026
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CNN now says 25 now, according to Syrian TV. Keeps climbing as the hour passes.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/me...sts/index.html
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Old 2011-06-05, 14:14   Link #14027
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This is a known phenom (at least to those who look past the soundbites)... the various factions are "famous" for taking care of internal disputes by disguising them under "Look! Its the Israelis again!" firefights.

"O darn, Moham got in the way of the rocket... I guess I win the next debate in council."
"No you don't! Abdul got his neck broken by a water cannon! I win the next debate in the council!"

"Shut up you both! Sufian got suffocated to death by a teargas grenade! I am the winner here!"

In the end, food prices and income issues are still unsolved. And Al-Qaeda comes in to feed the hungry in exchange for men to fight the "United Satan of the West".

Things never change in the Mideast for the past 30 years, do they?
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Old 2011-06-05, 19:29   Link #14028
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U.N. Report Declares Internet Access a Human Right

"A United Nations report said Friday that disconnecting people from the internet is a
human rights violation and against international law.

The report railed against France and the United Kingdom, which have passed laws to
remove accused copyright scofflaws from the internet. It also protested blocking
internet access to quell political unrest (.pdf)."

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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...a-human-right/
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Old 2011-06-05, 19:47   Link #14029
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So I'm exercising a human right now? Huh, weird.
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Old 2011-06-05, 21:27   Link #14030
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I think it's a move in the right direction, the internet is a form of speech, and disconnections for arbitrary reasons could be construed as censorship...

It's plausible that at some point in the future the running of the internet could be so cheap that Broadband costs for households would be negligible. They already are pretty low.
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Old 2011-06-05, 21:30   Link #14031
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Doctors claim to have "functional cure" for HIV


Timothy Ray Brown suffered from both leukemia and HIV when he received a bone marrow stem cell transplant in Berlin, Germany in 2007. The transplant came from a man who was immune to HIV, which scientists say about 1 percent of Caucasians are. (According to San Francisco's CBS affiliate, the trait may be passed down from ancestors who became immune to the plague centuries ago. This Wired story says it was more likely passed down from people who became immune to a smallpox-like disease.)


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Old 2011-06-05, 21:54   Link #14032
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Things never change in the Mideast for the past 30 years, do they?
Probably because some aren't interested much to change the situation.
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Old 2011-06-05, 23:35   Link #14033
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Old 2011-06-05, 23:42   Link #14034
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"A United Nations report said Friday that disconnecting people from the internet is a
human rights violation and against international law.

The report railed against France and the United Kingdom, which have passed laws to
remove accused copyright scofflaws from the internet. It also protested blocking
internet access to quell political unrest (.pdf)."

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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...a-human-right/
Well.. the real problem with those laws is they lack due process and the ability to respond to accusations. Its basically "punitive law by corporate edict".
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Old 2011-06-06, 01:14   Link #14035
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Did the people around that get HIGH from second hand smoke?!
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Old 2011-06-06, 04:48   Link #14036
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Old 2011-06-06, 05:53   Link #14037
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Well.. the real problem with those laws is they lack due process and the ability to respond to accusations. Its basically "punitive law by corporate edict".
I believe in equilibrium. If the corporations start clamping down, people will do it the Texan way, a.k.a shoot up the nearest government lackey. Since the people outnumber the executives, a few years later we'll see who's left standing. *sarcastic*

The corporate owners should just start ransacking their marketing and sales dept. Selling ideas should change with the times, harping about "copyright" all the time isn't going to help sales in the long term.

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Soros is selling his gold — should you too?

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LONDON (MarketWatch) — It could be brains. Or it might be intuition. Or it could just be luck. But whatever it is, it has allowed George Soros to read the market right over a long period of time. So when an investor of such legendary ability calls the top of the greatest bull market of our times, it is no great surprise that the world sits up to listen to what the man has to say.

In the first quarter of this year, Soros dumped around $800 million of gold. Should you follow his lead?

Not this time.

Gold is getting close to bubble territory. The price has rocketed upwards, and any asset that has been on a 12-year bull run has to be getting close to its top. The peak will come one day.

And yet every bubble has a blow-out phase — a moment when the price goes through the roof. Gold hasn’t gotten there yet. The core function of the metal in the financial markets is to offer protection against inflation. And while plenty of people think spiralling prices are right ahead of us, that isn’t the consensus view yet. That means the price still has some way to go.

Gold has, of course, been the trade of the decade.

Back in July 1999, it hit a 20-year low of $252.80 an ounce. The International Monetary Fund was a seller, and so were central banks in Australia and Britain. It looked as if time was finally being called on its role as the ultimate repository of value.

Ever since, it has steadily recovered. Last month, gold hit a record high of $1,575.79 an ounce. That’s an incredible 12-year run. If you’d dumped your holdings of equities in the summer of 1999 — just as they were reaching the top of the dot-com mania — and switched into gold instead, you’d be reading this article from the terrace of a 30-room mansion on your own private Caribbean island. Short of founding Facebook, there would have been no better way to make yourself a fortune.

So there’s certainly a case to be made for getting out now. Smart investors always sell too soon — it’s the only way to avoid the carnage when the bull market collapses. In January, Soros called the gold bubble. “When interest rates are low we have conditions for asset bubbles to develop, and they are developing at the moment,” he told his audience at the Davos conference. “The ultimate asset bubble is gold.”

Well, maybe. The problem with gold, for any cool-headed, realistic investor, is that as soon as you start to discuss it, you are entering the land of extremists.

George Soros said today’s low interest rates are ripe for various asset bubbles to develop.

On the one hand, there are the gold bugs, for whom the metal is the one true currency. It’s been used as money for a few thousand years now, and against that kind of history a couple of months of rising or falling values don’t make any difference. To them, no price is ever really high enough. If every other asset is being trashed by wicked central bankers printing paper money, why not just keep on buying? After all, it’s bound to be worth more than those brightly colored pieces of paper.

On the other hand, gold’s detractors are just as adamant that it isn’t worth anything. Like John Maynard Keynes, they regard it as a “barbarous relic.” Sure, you can make wedding rings from it, but apart from that it’s useless. At least with copper you can make pipes, and bonds generate an income. But gold is mainly a psychological asset. It’s worth something because other people think it is. There are no reliable yardsticks against which we can measure its value.

The truth is somewhere in the middle. Gold can certainly move into bubble territory, just like any other asset. But its core function is as a safe alternative to cash during periods of prolonged and destructive inflation.

And here’s the important point. While plenty of analysts — including this writer as it happens — think we are heading for a period of steadily rising prices, that certainly isn’t the consensus yet. Just take a look at the government bond markets. The yield on US Treasury bonds is still at record lows. The same is true of most European government bonds, apart from those countries that are already bust. That wouldn’t be true if the markets were expecting huge price rises.

In reality, the markets are still priced for low inflation, even deflation. At some point, that consensus is going to crack. Central banks will be forced to raise interest rates — and potentially quite sharply as they wake up to the fact that inflationary expectations are getting out of hand.

And what will happen then? Bond markets will collapse — that’s certain. Equity markets will wobble. The historical record shows that equities are a poor hedge against rising prices, and they usually do poorly when interest rates are rising.

Where is everyone going to flee for safety? To gold, of course.

As rates start to rise, and fighting inflation becomes the main task of central bankers rather than warding off another great depression, the price of the precious metal will soar.

That will be the blow-out phase of the 12-year bull market.

It might happen next year, or it might be 2013. And gold might hit $2,500 an ounce or $3,000. Or even more. No one really knows. Once a market reaches its final buying frenzy, the price can go anywhere, as anyone who remembers the Nikkei hitting 38,000 will attest.

That will be the time to get out. And for that reason, Soros has got his timing wrong this time. There will be a moment to sell gold — but it is still at least a year away.
So who's the next person holding the sad sack this time? Or is the bubble going to inflate a little more while more buy in?
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Old 2011-06-06, 10:26   Link #14038
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Fukushima reactors suffered full meltdown during quake
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Old 2011-06-06, 11:06   Link #14039
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Strauss-Kahn pleads not guilty to sexual assault charges
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Old 2011-06-06, 13:26   Link #14040
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I think this article is playing a little bit with the reader's inability to differentiate between a full melt down of fuel rods and a melt down of the reactor pressure vessel.

Its not a full melt down as in "china syndrome", because the material stayed (mostly) in the reactor pressure vessel. It was a full melt down of the fuel rods however (which is technically not a melt down either... more like a burn down, since the fuel rod's casing - rich in zirconium - begins to burn at very high temperatures, binding with the O in H2O creating a lot of H2 in the process (which caused the hydrogen explosions)).
That (at that time assumed partial) melt downs occured was clear when the first hydrogen explosion was confirmed (at least for some people who are familiar with the technology). The only thing uncertain was the extend of the cladding fire. Now TEPCO says its been 100% in all 3 reactors (though this result does not come completely unexpected - for this hydrogen explosion you need a lot of hydrogen - so a lot of cladding must have burned).
And to be chronologically precise, the reactors suffered these melt downs after the big quake(s) (not during).

I bet in 2 years CNN will find out, that there is high background radiation in the region around the power plant, coming from heavy isotopes.
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