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Old 2011-06-06, 13:46   Link #11021
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Vol 20 Chapter 2 Part 7 has been translated
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Old 2011-06-06, 22:58   Link #11022
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Vento is gonna be PWNEED in 3... 2... 1....
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Old 2011-06-06, 23:24   Link #11023
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Damn Vento didn't stand a chance against Fiamma
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Old 2011-06-06, 23:47   Link #11024
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Fiamma seem to be able to pinpoint everybody's weakness and soft spots and touchy subjects.
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Old 2011-06-06, 23:48   Link #11025
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Fiamma seem to be able to pinpoint everybody's weakness and soft spots and touchy subjects.
We all know how he's going to get a fair share of that back to him later on, didn't we?
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Old 2011-06-06, 23:57   Link #11026
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We all know how he's going to get a fair share of that back to him later on, didn't we?
Which makes it kinda disappointing.

Then again, people who shines the light at others, are the one with something to hide.

But I expected him to be a tougher cookie.
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Old 2011-06-07, 00:07   Link #11027
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But I expected him to be a tougher cookie.
Heh, he'll probably lose to Touma when it comes to resolve anyway.

Anyway, now that I remembered, Haimura has shown us some character designs of Vento without the coif she usually wears. Does it mean that the rest of the living members of the God's Right Seat would have costume changes on forthcoming volumes?
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Old 2011-06-07, 00:28   Link #11028
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Heh, he'll probably lose to Touma when it comes to resolve anyway.

Anyway, now that I remembered, Haimura has shown us some character designs of Vento without the coif she usually wears. Does it mean that the rest of the living members of the God's Right Seat would have costume changes on forthcoming volumes?
Coifless H4wt Vento was made for the Sake of the anime. Due to the way that the anime is directed (without still images) the action would have been too limited, a fight needs "dynamic poses" that show the character in action, specially for someone who controls wind.

So, to make long story short, Vento's coif was going to get animated and in order to have "several possible perspectives to draw" the Anime staff requested Haimura and Kamachi to design was wasn't seen before for her, in other words we are "naturally" really not gonna see "extra designs" for more God Right's Seat characters until they change their appearance in the main series, or get animated and are required to have extra poses or something, so don't hold your breath unless you wanna see Acqua without a shirt or something.
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Old 2011-06-07, 02:51   Link #11029
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Acqua without a shirt is fine too.

Ok what.

On a serious note, I actually want a change of costumes for the three members, especially since they are no longer the God's Right Seat member they were. All of them are relegated to being top-notch magicians, with Fiamma still probably stronger than Elizarina, who is a Right Hand user as well.
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Old 2011-06-07, 08:47   Link #11030
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But…

“Truly wonderful.”

Fiamma held his right hand out towards Kamijou while smiling.

A small tube-shaped device lay within that hand.

It was Index’s remote control spiritual item.

Kamijou’s expression changed and Fiamma grinned widely as he spoke.

“Is that really something you can say before a nun you have been continually lying to?”

Kamijou’s shoulders gave a slight twitch.

(It couldn’t be…)

“At times, I am connected to her consciousness through this remote control spiritual item. The information I see and hear is passed on to her at those times.”

(He…)

“Now then. Can you say the same thing in this situation? There is no problem with being wrong. But if you truly believe what you said, then why did you continue to put on that shameless act before her?”

(He’s realized it…?)

A chill ran down his back.

It was not a feeling regarding the danger he himself was in.

It was the feeling of the invisible pillar supporting a certain girl slowly crumbling away.

Meanwhile, Fiamma lightly touched his temple with one of his normal fingers and smiled.

“You are the only one that can fully understand what you are hiding. She is the only one that can judge how she feels about those things. You seem to have been protecting her from it for your own satisfaction, but I look forward to seeing whether she judges that to have been a good thing or not.”

I don't hate Touma but how much I enjoyed that part .
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Old 2011-06-07, 08:58   Link #11031
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Fiamma still probably stronger than Elizarina, who is a Right Hand user as well.
Wait, WHAT?!
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Old 2011-06-07, 09:07   Link #11032
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Well, not literally.

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So far she showed she can set magic security systems and has magic based behind the principle of the Right Hand.
Unless this is wrong.
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Old 2011-06-07, 09:16   Link #11033
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Well, not literally.
I was about to say.

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Unless this is wrong.
I'd be more secure if there was an actual reference to that statement; is there?
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Old 2011-06-07, 09:17   Link #11034
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I doubt she is an owner of a special right hand. Her magic is just based on right hand but her right hand isn't special unlike Touma and Fiamma. Being a right hand user spell is different from having a special right hand.

And just reading the chapter of Vento vs Fiamma in english just further shows more how ridiculous strong Fiamma is. His holy right isn't even funny at all when I reading how he beat the crap out of Vento.
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Old 2011-06-07, 09:45   Link #11035
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I doubt she is an owner of a special right hand. Her magic is just based on right hand but her right hand isn't special unlike Touma and Fiamma. Being a right hand user spell is different from having a special right hand.
I never said she was. I'd just like to know how she was able to use the principle of the Right Hand to utilize Right Hand principles without an actual Right Hand.

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And just reading the chapter of Vento vs Fiamma in english just further shows more how ridiculous strong Fiamma is. His holy right isn't even funny at all when I reading how he beat the crap out of Vento.
That's... sort of the point though, isn't it?
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Old 2011-06-07, 11:22   Link #11036
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I am a bit dissapointed with the "fight" because basically it wasn't even a fight just a showing off.
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Old 2011-06-07, 11:50   Link #11037
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Between Fiamma going mambo and Misha's first experience eating sweets in part 4 of chapter 2; volume 4 I have to say that seeing the later it's more enjoyable to me. Tsundara cosplaying hammer Ftw.
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Old 2011-06-07, 12:18   Link #11038
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I never said she was. I'd just like to know how she was able to use the principle of the Right Hand to utilize Right Hand principles without an actual Right Hand.
Would it be this line?

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In that instant Lessar had risked her life for, Elizalina stood up to a crouched position while making complex motions with her fingers. A glow that flickered irregularly appeared at the tips of her fingers.

When Fiamma saw it, he laughed.

“You’re trying to construct a spell using the ‘right arm’ against me?”
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Old 2011-06-07, 12:32   Link #11039
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Would it be this line?
I was asking when she did it. I was asking how she did it. The way the author presented it, anyone can use the Right Hand powers. Meaning anyone could theoretically use Imagine Breaker's power. It won't be as powerful as the real deal, obviously, but they can still use it. It makes the actual Right Hands much less impressive now.
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Old 2011-06-07, 13:01   Link #11040
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And just reading the chapter of Vento vs Fiamma in english just further shows more how ridiculous strong Fiamma is. His holy right isn't even funny at all when I reading how he beat the crap out of Vento.
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I am a bit dissapointed with the "fight" because basically it wasn't even a fight just a showing off.
Wasn't Fiamma dissapointed/bored as well?

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I was asking when she did it. I was asking how she did it. The way the author presented it, anyone can use the Right Hand powers. Meaning anyone could theoretically use Imagine Breaker's power. It won't be as powerful as the real deal, obviously, but they can still use it. It makes the actual Right Hands much less impressive now.
I think there is a diference between right hands with an "Unique power" and powers trying to imitate using their right hand but won't succeed.
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