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Old 2011-06-14, 14:59   Link #11241
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Well, maybe i am just thinking too much. Anyways, it would be good if Vol 2 were translated so we could have more hints.
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Old 2011-06-14, 15:00   Link #11242
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Fiamma' s 'Third Arm' moves in accord to Fiamma's right hand moves, he doesn't have the proper medium but still is there.

Touma didn't negated the attack as if he had the IB he cut it into a half, if its a "residual power" then Fiamma would never had to release a large amount of his power output to overwhelm it.
But the Third Arm is not the Holy Right. It's just a reflection.
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Old 2011-06-14, 20:11   Link #11243
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But the Third Arm is not the Holy Right. It's just a reflection.
A reflection needs is the product of a real object which is Fiamma's right arm/hand.
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Old 2011-06-14, 22:00   Link #11244
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Wasn't that more of because Izzard went nuts and pretty much made the Dragon appear?
Vol2 epilogue mentioned Touma thinking how in the world does Aureolus giving in to the idea "He can't win against Touma" lead to a thought as detailed and specific as "a dragon's head popping out from his severed right arm". It was foreshadowing that the Dragon head wasn't just Aureolus' imagination and there's something inside Touma, and a few sentences afterwards the narration suggested that monster had nothing to do with Aureolus' Ars Magna.


On a side note... in Vol2 epilogue Index walked in to see Touma trying to embrace Stiyl (I'll let you guys go find out what's the reason from the raws, more fun that way ), thought the two was in a relationship and apologised for disturbing them before trying to leave. Touma wanted to refute that but can't just say "That's wrong, i'm only interested in you" to a little girl and Stiyl just smiles while he watches Touma suffer.
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Old 2011-06-14, 22:18   Link #11245
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On a side note... in Vol2 epilogue Index walked in to see Touma trying to embrace Stiyl (I'll let you guys go find out what's the reason from the raws, more fun that way ), thought the two was in a relationship and apologised for disturbing them before trying to leave. Touma wanted to refute that but can't just say "That's wrong, i'm only interested in you" to a little girl and Stiyl just smiles while he watches Touma suffer.
That sounds like something I would write...
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Old 2011-06-14, 22:29   Link #11246
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That sounds like something I would write...
That thought did occur to me as well
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Old 2011-06-14, 22:32   Link #11247
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What I don't get is why Touma chose those words to defend himself ?
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Old 2011-06-14, 23:24   Link #11248
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"When Accelerator tried to understand the logic behind Touma's powers in Volume 20, he felt extreme pain in his head, as if something was tearing the left and right half of his brain and splitting them apart, wanting to jump out of that gap and then gave up."

I have read novel 20 and this seems to be wrong, to me it seems the pain was caused mainly due to the darkwings that try to understand the logic, can anyone with access to the raw confirm or negate this.
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Old 2011-06-14, 23:27   Link #11249
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"When Accelerator tried to understand the logic behind Touma's powers in Volume 20, he felt extreme pain in his head, as if something was tearing the left and right half of his brain and splitting them apart, wanting to jump out of that gap and then gave up."

I have read novel 20 and this seems to be wrong, to me it seems the pain was caused mainly due to the darkwings that try to understand the logic, can anyone with access to the raw confirm or negate this.
Lol. More for the OBD?
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Old 2011-06-14, 23:53   Link #11250
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You know the world doesn't resolve around the OBD, its just something I have been pondering for a while.
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Old 2011-06-14, 23:59   Link #11251
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"When Accelerator tried to understand the logic behind Touma's powers in Volume 20, he felt extreme pain in his head, as if something was tearing the left and right half of his brain and splitting them apart, wanting to jump out of that gap and then gave up."

I have read novel 20 and this seems to be wrong, to me it seems the pain was caused mainly due to the darkwings that try to understand the logic, can anyone with access to the raw confirm or negate this.
Can you give me a page number? I have volume 20 with me. But flipping through the pages that Accelerator fights with Touma, I did not see a page where he tries to contemplate Touma's power.
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Old 2011-06-15, 00:03   Link #11252
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"In other words…

(I’ll smash him to pieces with overwhelming force not giving him a chance to fight back!!)

He could feel a dull pain deep in his head.

It felt like his right brain and left brain were being split apart and something was bursting out from within.

It was not a normal feeling.

He wasn’t even sure it was part of his powers as Academy City’s #1 Level 5.

He didn’t know what was going to happen.

He might even just disintegrate away. "

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...me20_Chapter_4

Part 2.
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Old 2011-06-15, 00:48   Link #11253
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If that's the text then all I'm getting out of that is he is pissed.
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Old 2011-06-15, 00:50   Link #11254
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"In other words…

(I’ll smash him to pieces with overwhelming force not giving him a chance to fight back!!)

He could feel a dull pain deep in his head.

It felt like his right brain and left brain were being split apart and something was bursting out from within.

It was not a normal feeling.

He wasn’t even sure it was part of his powers as Academy City’s #1 Level 5.

He didn’t know what was going to happen.

He might even just disintegrate away. "

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...me20_Chapter_4

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If i´m right he´s talking about his own power (well in fact he´s talking about the black wings, of which he doesn´t truly understand it source...), as he goes on the fight he feels more strain from using those black wings, and is natural, is a power that goes beyond his own limits and this is the first time he´s been using them this long (with Kakine it was a one hit thing doubt it went beyond 15 minutes, but he´s been rampaging for a while since he´s fight with MW, so what maybe 1 hour?). What happens here is simply that the transition between his inner thoughts from Touma´s power to how to use his own to defeat it is a bit rough.
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Old 2011-06-15, 01:00   Link #11255
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Yeah that was my impression, well seems I have to request later permision to edit the wikia.
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Old 2011-06-15, 03:55   Link #11256
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Checked the book. Yeah, that part is Accelerator suffering from the pain of using his wings. Accelerator already finished contemplating Touma's power in the paragraph before that.
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Old 2011-06-15, 10:51   Link #11257
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When Accelerator goes Angelerator in V.22 don't you hear this song?

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Old 2011-06-15, 12:28   Link #11258
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'll go ahead anyway.

Misaka Worst is supposed to be an outlet for the Misaka Network's negative feelings, right? What do you suppose would happen if she received negative emotions that were directed at her (such as killing intent or jealousy)?
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Old 2011-06-15, 12:33   Link #11259
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Few possibilities I guess:
1. She would attack herself or something
2. She would direct the emotion towards someone else... presumably the source
3. Her creators put in a countermeasure against that so nothing happens

We don't know just how good she is at resisting the temptations I think. Seeing as she doesn't seem to hate Accel as she claimed, her resistance may not be that low. Tough I'd like to see Volume 21 before commenting on hatred towards Accel...
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Old 2011-06-15, 14:00   Link #11260
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'll go ahead anyway.

Misaka Worst is supposed to be an outlet for the Misaka Network's negative feelings, right? What do you suppose would happen if she received negative emotions that were directed at her (such as killing intent or jealousy)?
For what I remember she also stated herself that the Sisters can't feel hate since they weren't meant to and that they just might develop the ability to feel something like that later.

Considering that she was custom made "for a single purpose" and the sisters couldn't feel hate at the time, I doubt that her developers took that into account. Perhaps she would simply feel hate for herself or would get depressed? Of course I doubt that any of our theories would be able to match the reality of Worst amazing actions if that actually happened.

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Index walked in to see Touma trying to embrace Stiyl (I'll let you guys go find out what's the reason from the raws, more fun that way )
That's right after Touma called Stiyl "you are such a nice man" (twice), right?
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