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Old 2011-06-15, 16:13   Link #2041
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Passive-aggressiveness towards me won't really solve anything on either end. Debate, and debate well. That's all that needs to be done. I've brought up points from the show to defend my position, and you can do likewise.
No nooo I'm not being aggressive towards you, Im just still sore and pissed at the car accident.

I dont mind if they turn up lesbians or not. its the so called "Hints" that annoy me. If you guys would just admit that it can go both ways and pretty much anything can happen. then it would be for the best.

because face it.. theres too much evidence of both sides that anything can happen
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Old 2011-06-15, 16:14   Link #2042
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Episode 11 lacks the animation budget to animate the concert. The animators spending all their budget on animating Yukikaze's jiggling breasts.

y'know, that reminds me of something...
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Old 2011-06-15, 22:50   Link #2043
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It's more than just the song, it's the camera shots chosen around the song. It cut to Leonmichelle first, and during the song, Shinku was blushing around Eclair, and their relationship had been building up earlier. So by process of elimination, this song about wanting your feelings to reach someone (which is one of the running themes of the show), must be directed at Leonmichelle by process of elimination and, once again, taking the show's overarching themes into account.
Honestly, the order they showed Leon isn't that important. I could very well argue that since they showed Shinku much much more than they showed Leon during that scene, it was much more meaningful towards him.

But honestly, that's just speculation and it very well might not mean what we think it means, if it even means anything at all. For all we know, it could be because Shinku and Leon are the most important of the characters, but Shinku needed to be shown with the group because Leon was apart from them.

When was Shinku blushing around Eclair? I thought it was Eclair blushing around Shinku?

As for the development between Shinku and Eclair, I wouldn't be surprised. The relationship between Milli and Shinku has seen development throughout the entire series, while Shinku and Eclair basically only have development on the battlefield and in the very beginning of the series. I wouldn't be surprised if this was just the reward for Eclair fans who feel as if she didn't have enough meaningful development throughout the rest of the series.

Honestly, you could also argue that the song was a prelude to the impending development between Shinku and Milli in the next episode [I mean, there's summoning issues. I seriously doubt there won't be any development]. Shinku and Eclair having development in the series doesn't exclude Shinku from the feelings in this song.

I think that there are yuri undertones though. I just don't believe that Shinku was excluded from the song.

Also, just marathoned episodes 7-11 today. In my opinion, the buildup was kinda weak [Although I liked the pacing, I couldn't help but keep in mind that this was just after the war], the final battle with Shinku and Milli was nice, and Yukikaze and Brioche are great characters. Yukikaze and Eclair are easily my favorites though. Episode 11 needed more Brioche.
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Old 2011-06-15, 22:54   Link #2044
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^ this is what i've been tryin to say XD I'm just VERY bad at discribing stuff...
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Old 2011-06-16, 02:33   Link #2045
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I'd like to seal myself in those.
And suffocate to death like a pillow in your face.

Be careful what you wished for.
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Old 2011-06-16, 03:08   Link #2046
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No nooo I'm not being aggressive towards you, Im just still sore and pissed at the car accident.

I dont mind if they turn up lesbians or not. its the so called "Hints" that annoy me. If you guys would just admit that it can go both ways and pretty much anything can happen. then it would be for the best.

because face it.. theres too much evidence of both sides that anything can happen
It's Nanoha x Fate vs Nanoha x Yuuno all over again. Tsuzuki must be fucking desperate.
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Old 2011-06-16, 04:27   Link #2047
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It's Nanoha x Fate vs Nanoha x Yuuno all over again. Tsuzuki must be fucking desperate.
Haiz... another Shipping War... I'm sick of it already...
*Prepares the Phone Microwave to send 'Cinque x Milly 4ever!' *
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Old 2011-06-16, 05:15   Link #2048
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Yes I totally agree with OceanBlue. From what I see, there are quite a lot of development for Milli and Shinku. Furthermore there's a lot of history between Leon and Milli. Therefore I think it's normal that there are strong feelings of how close Milly is to Shinku or Leon. It's just that now people are arguing who is more and who is less which makes it more fun I guess.

@ Kyero Fox
Lol! You are pretty bad at describing things hehe. Good thing OceanBlue helps you right? Hehe.

But... who cares! Milly x Shinku! Muhahahaha! Also seeing this episode, it just reinforces at least to me that Leon is a very charismatic leader while Milli is a total morale booster. Pretty awesome I would say especially when the countries have close and good relation to one another.

Oh yeah! About the chant from Yukikaze, it sounds as if she have been a live for a very long time? But dang, can this series really be 13 episodes? Because they can't just show Yukikaze and Brioche's past without going more into it can they? Aaargh I want more!!
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Old 2011-06-16, 07:01   Link #2049
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*back from checking Pixiv*

See ya, .. I'm gonna go commit suicide now.......

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this is one of the major reasons i turn my head at yuri sexual stuff, but i guess this kind of hentai is enivitable.
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Old 2011-06-16, 07:28   Link #2050
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I think you're overreacting...
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Old 2011-06-16, 07:35   Link #2051
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There are yuri pairings that work...
and there are yuri pairings that dont work...
Milly and Leon-chan falls on the Don't work category...
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Old 2011-06-16, 07:43   Link #2052
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There are yuri pairings that work...
and there are yuri pairings that dont work...
Milly and Leon-chan falls on the Don't work category...
Nah, it only seems that way because Leon and Milly have basically been antagonists for the entire series. If they wanted, a few more episodes or a new season can change that.
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Old 2011-06-16, 08:03   Link #2053
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I think you're overreacting...
I prob am...but /shiver..I need to sleep it out of my head.
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Old 2011-06-16, 08:06   Link #2054
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There are yuri pairings that work...
and there are yuri pairings that dont work...
Milly and Leon-chan falls on the Don't work category...
Huh? Of course it works, it actually falls on the "it could work" catagory XD
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Old 2011-06-16, 11:10   Link #2055
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Judging from the ongoing argument, I can safely call the bone throwing at yuri and hetero shippers a cheap trick from Tsuzuki to distract people from the actual weaknesses of his writing. Hell, it have worked for Nanoha!
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Old 2011-06-16, 12:05   Link #2056
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Throwing all the blame on the writer for a debate the fans started amongst themselves seems a little misguided. The staff was just trying to tell an action story, this whole shipping debate (something I rarely, if ever get involved in), is at least half my fault. I'm willing to take the blame for starting it. It's cool.
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Old 2011-06-16, 12:08   Link #2057
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its all okay! its a freakin anime. Let's all spit in his face and just agree that milly is a very loving and caring person. And so is leon. Hell most of the people in this anime are generaly very kind. Have we met one ass in this anime?
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Old 2011-06-16, 14:34   Link #2058
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its all okay! its a freakin anime. Let's all spit in his face and just agree that milly is a very loving and caring person. And so is leon. Hell most of the people in this anime are generaly very kind. Have we met one ass in this anime?
Goodwin?

*runs away from gigantic ball and chain*
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Old 2011-06-16, 14:50   Link #2059
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Naaa he's kind of like the tough nice guy

Hell even he said the war was a bad idea.
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Old 2011-06-16, 14:59   Link #2060
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Judging from the ongoing argument, I can safely call the bone throwing at yuri and hetero shippers a cheap trick from Tsuzuki to distract people from the actual weaknesses of his writing. Hell, it have worked for Nanoha!
You act as if this hasn't happened in every harem anime since forever. It isn't something Tsuzuki only does. People watch different things for different reasons. I didn't play Ar Tonelico because I considered it the pinnacle of high writing.

Edit: To clarify, in my case, it's just expectations. There's no point in discussing the quality of writing to me because I never expected too much, nor did the series attempt to sell too much. On the other hand, I did grow attached to the cast as I expected, and I got a fun adventure in a fantasy land as I expected. The series did what I expected it to do well enough.
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