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Old 2011-06-19, 12:37   Link #9061
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Sounds like ya typical Haram game to me =3 Hope you get your *happy ending*
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Old 2011-06-19, 13:37   Link #9062
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That's another annoying issue, when I go out and especially when meeting new people, the main thing that I want to do is talk with them (not dance, not show off), and it is impossible in clubs, and most bars because either their crappy selection of music is too loud or some blocks are screaming something incomprehensible while watching some match
A lot of folks don't know that clubs and bars where there is booming music and it's dark, is the worst place to meet people. But common sense gets clouded in our culture by the mystique of the night and sex appeal that some of these places have a reputation of portraying.
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Old 2011-06-19, 14:29   Link #9063
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Smoking, another reason I go out less often these days. And it's quite funny in Hamburg and Munich when the weather is not horrible you see more people outside than indoors.
Pretty sure the nanograms of diluted cigarette smoke one might inhale by standing next to smokers outside is far less harmful than breathing in the exhaust of thousands of cars every day, over and over.

I'm not going to argue against the issues second-hand smoke can cause children or those with health concerns when the smoke is heavy and in a poorly-ventilated area (i.e. stupid parents smoking inside around their kids).

I don't know if I was doomed from the start, since my parents both smoked indoors and never avoided me when I was young... and I started smoking when I was in my teens. Dumbest thing I ever did, but no matter how many times I've tried to quit I can't seem to do it.
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Old 2011-06-19, 14:33   Link #9064
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Pretty sure the nanograms of diluted cigarette smoke one might inhale by standing next to smokers outside is far less harmful than breathing in the exhaust of thousands of cars every day, over and over.

I'm not going to argue against the issues second-hand smoke can cause children or those with health concerns when the smoke is heavy and in a poorly-ventilated area (i.e. stupid parents smoking inside around their kids).

I don't know if I was doomed from the start, since my parents both smoked indoors and never avoided me when I was young... and I started smoking when I was in my teens. Dumbest thing I ever did, but no matter how many times I've tried to quit I can't seem to do it.
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Old 2011-06-19, 15:06   Link #9065
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Fuck a bar, just go to a club with drinks....it's more live anyway.
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Old 2011-06-19, 17:28   Link #9066
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Pretty sure the nanograms of diluted cigarette smoke one might inhale by standing next to smokers outside is far less harmful than breathing in the exhaust of thousands of cars every day, over and over.
My usual argument too

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Fuck a bar, just go to a club with drinks....it's more live anyway.
Clubs, especially dance ones are the worst, too loud, way too many show off's, horrible quality, slow service, stink of sweat, and are filled with immature and annoying kids.
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Old 2011-06-19, 17:36   Link #9067
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I knew I wasn't the only one!

I hate clubs because the overpowering stench of male BO just kills me.
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Old 2011-06-19, 17:55   Link #9068
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There are worse... when a drunk jailbait dances next to you, effectively using you as her towel, and is pissed with you because you try to ignore her kids these days
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Old 2011-06-19, 18:10   Link #9069
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Female BO just doesn't smell as bad to me as the stink of unwashed hairy man, though this might be because living in the Bay Area, I constantly run into dirty hobos who smell like concentrated BO essence. *facepalm*
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Old 2011-06-19, 20:44   Link #9070
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These are the best bars.

I don't actually go to bars anymore because my retarded state thinks they're smart and banned smoking in bars. WTF California? The purpose of a bar is to drink, smoke and listen to bad bands play!

Booze and tobacco go together like peanut butter and chocolate for fuck's sake!
If you're a non-smoker (IE most of the population) those laws are a godsend. I used to suffocate on entering a pub. There was always a layer of haze from head height up. It was awful. Now smokers, they love the smell of smoke. The rest of us hate it.

I don't really care about the health effects. I just like the fact that the air is clear now. I used to not be able to see the roofs...

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Pretty sure the nanograms of diluted cigarette smoke one might inhale by standing next to smokers outside is far less harmful than breathing in the exhaust of thousands of cars every day, over and over.

I'm not going to argue against the issues second-hand smoke can cause children or those with health concerns when the smoke is heavy and in a poorly-ventilated area (i.e. stupid parents smoking inside around their kids).

I don't know if I was doomed from the start, since my parents both smoked indoors and never avoided me when I was young... and I started smoking when I was in my teens. Dumbest thing I ever did, but no matter how many times I've tried to quit I can't seem to do it.
Got to kick the habit. Makes you look 10 years older. When you hit 40 your voice sounds like a vaccuum cleaner, and your teeth look like you came off the set of Pirates of the Carribean. That's not even getting into the health risks.

You also stink. Sorry to say it, but it's true. Smokers stink.

It also costs how much per day?

Also smokers absolutely hate me. I love to tell the young dudes standing on the corner all about how they're probably going to be impotent by the time they hit 40 . (Their response: "What's impotence?")

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Female BO just doesn't smell as bad to me as the stink of unwashed hairy man, though this might be because living in the Bay Area, I constantly run into dirty hobos who smell like concentrated BO essence. *facepalm*
I like my manly body odour. The really weird thing though is that I smell just like my dad. It was pretty weird when I first realised it. What next, am I going to start telling kids to get off the lawn?
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Old 2011-06-19, 20:55   Link #9071
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I know it smells, I know it costs a lot, I know it's not good for me... but my fiancee refuses to quit, so unless I dump her, I am not going to be able to quit unless she does. And she gets really mad if anyone pokes her about quitting smoking and then starts ranting about people being obsessed with weed but hating on tobacco.
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Old 2011-06-19, 21:05   Link #9072
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I know it smells, I know it costs a lot, I know it's not good for me... but my fiancee refuses to quit, so unless I dump her, I am not going to be able to quit unless she does. And she gets really mad if anyone pokes her about quitting smoking and then starts ranting about people being obsessed with weed but hating on tobacco.
Well, you could always push the issue with her in some fashion. Don't make it seem like you're poking her about it; just tell her that you've tried to quit before, but you find it difficult to do since she's also still smoking, and by context of that, she's not only hurting herself, but you.

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Or, just let her smoke herself to death. Either or.
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Old 2011-06-19, 21:27   Link #9073
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If you're a non-smoker (IE most of the population) those laws are a godsend. I used to suffocate on entering a pub. There was always a layer of haze from head height up. It was awful. Now smokers, they love the smell of smoke. The rest of us hate it.

I don't really care about the health effects. I just like the fact that the air is clear now. I used to not be able to see the roofs...



Got to kick the habit. Makes you look 10 years older. When you hit 40 your voice sounds like a vaccuum cleaner, and your teeth look like you came off the set of Pirates of the Carribean. That's not even getting into the health risks.

You also stink. Sorry to say it, but it's true. Smokers stink.

It also costs how much per day?

Also smokers absolutely hate me. I love to tell the young dudes standing on the corner all about how they're probably going to be impotent by the time they hit 40 . (Their response: "What's impotence?")



I like my manly body odour. The really weird thing though is that I smell just like my dad. It was pretty weird when I first realised it. What next, am I going to start telling kids to get off the lawn?
Saved me from having to reply almost as strongly as you did to Syn from her glofying smoking posts, lol.
(Or I learnt to rein in my desire to impulse post like I used to do and leave things be)

To bring it back to dating, yeah, one of my top three 'no gos' with a guy is smoking. I don't care if there are other harmful gasses in the air (all the more reason not to add then, right?), I see it as nothing more than pure poison in a stick that also affects my own health and ease to breathe.

A guy smokes, he's out, I don't give him a chance, or I cross him off my list of 'potentials' if there's an initial attraction.
And even if one tried to excuse themselves or appeal to me, more times than not, the disappointment in my eyes is enough to quell any further arguement.

Somedays, that works wonders than having a go and pissing off smokers
(Can be fun sometimes tho, lol)
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Old 2011-06-19, 21:42   Link #9074
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@RB/Mystique: Well, that's bordering fascism, what's next don't eat meat?
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Old 2011-06-19, 22:06   Link #9075
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I know it smells, I know it costs a lot, I know it's not good for me... but my fiancee refuses to quit, so unless I dump her, I am not going to be able to quit unless she does. And she gets really mad if anyone pokes her about quitting smoking and then starts ranting about people being obsessed with weed but hating on tobacco.
Mayhaps an e-cig'll work for you; they're cheaper than cigs (after the initial cost) and a heck of a lot less gross/harmful.
Then she can stink herself up and get cancer to her heart's content and you'll be sparing yourself a smidge of it.

I ended up finally giving the hubby the choice of switching to an ecig (and weaning off nicotine) or gtfo when I caught him sneaking cigs at work after being asked by his dying father to quit....

Well, unbeknown to him, I swapped his cartridges with no nicotine ones so he's been nicotine free for over a month now.. he still uses it for the oral habit, but still...

This is deviating off the dating subject, but sometimes you have to find compromises when dating, and that's one
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Old 2011-06-19, 22:21   Link #9076
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@RB/Mystique: Well, that's bordering fascism, what's next don't eat meat?
Thank you. Just because I smoke doesn't make me a goddamned child molester. I deal with this shit every fucking day in this craptastic state, and you know what? It doesn't make me want to quit. It makes me want to kick the shit out of the people badgering me.

People don't like being preached at.

@Mystique: Anyone who is so shallow as to hate someone for smoking doesn't deserve my time.
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Old 2011-06-19, 22:31   Link #9077
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Not wanting to date someone because they smoke can hardly be called hating them, that's an absurd exaggeration.

It doesn't make someone shallow either. Smokers send the message that they don't care enough about themselves, why would someone else want to be with them?

People who respect themselves and their bodies generally like to be with people who do the same. I dated a smoker, it makes kissing disgusting. She has every right to disregard them romantically.
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Old 2011-06-19, 22:42   Link #9078
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Not wanting to date someone because they smoke can hardly be called hating them, that's an absurd exaggeration.
That sounds exactly like not wanting to date a black person, does not make you racist... just saying absurdly exaggerating

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It doesn't make someone shallow either. Smokers send the message that they don't care enough about themselves, why would someone else want to be with them?
Well, I do call that shallow too.

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People who respect themselves and their bodies generally like to be with people who do the same. I dated a smoker, it makes kissing disgusting. She has every right to disregard them romantically.
I dated a vegetarian and the smell of her excrement was horrendous, should I stop considering dating vegetarians or just not use the toilet till the ventilation does the trick
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Old 2011-06-19, 22:54   Link #9079
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That sounds exactly like not wanting to date a black person, does not make you racist... just saying absurdly exaggerating
Smoking is a choice. Being black is not a choice. Care to make a better analogy?

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Well, I do call that shallow too.
People can choose not to date someone for any number of reasons. Why would smoking be any more shallow than the hundreds of other reasons that people have?

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I dated a vegetarian and the smell of her excrement was horrendous, should I stop considering dating vegetarians or just not use the toilet till the ventilation does the trick
If it bothers you that much, yes. Obviously it doesn't, since you're asking in a rhetorical manner. You harp on people for being shallow or whatever for refusing to date smokers, but aren't you being just as bad by looking down on them for their own choices?
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Old 2011-06-19, 22:56   Link #9080
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All right, all right, I'm sorry I even brought this shit up. My brain hurts now.

Let's get this topic back on topic.

There has always been something that really confused me about dating. The whole "type" thing. When someone says, "oh, she's not my type," what the hell does that actually mean? I mean, I date people I find interesting or attractive. I don't necessarily have anything like a specific "type" of girls who I will date above others.

So what is this "type" thing? Is it some combination of physical appearance? Is it a personality thing? Because it sounds like a physical thing--like, a guy I know won't date girls who wear their hair short (which I think is retarded since short hair can be just as cute, if not more so, than long hair).
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