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Old 2011-06-10, 23:36   Link #61
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Prologue Part 2

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Shigenori Houjou, then Prime Minister, is giving the following answer in the National Diet:

"It should be obvious, but we have no maps of that land.

How is the nature is there? What animals live there? And what kind of people live there?

What is their cultural level? What is their scientific and technological level? Their religion? We do not even know their form of government.

During this incident, a lot of criminals were arrested.

Using vague words like 'arrested' feels irritating. I used it, since our constitution and other laws weren't written with a situation such as this in mind. Thus, with this emergency at hand, our country has not decided on laws concerning the handling of prisoners of war. If we apply the current laws of our country, they are nothing more than criminals who violated criminal law.

That being the case, at the risk of this being called far-fetched, my decision is to consider the Special Region a part of domestic Japan. On the other side of the 'Gate' lies—so far unconfirmed—soil of our country. It can be considered to be populated. Even if a government exists on the other side, if we haven't negotiated with them, decided on national borders and established diplomatic relations, they cannot be recognized as an independent nation. At the current stage, they are an armed group of terrorists that took the lives of innocent citizens and foreign tourists.

I am also aware that some hold the opinion that we should peacefully negotiate with them. However, to do this, we must make the other party sit down for the negotiations. But how can we do that? Realistically, we're not having negotiations with those on the other side of the 'Gate'.

We must make the power that exists beyond the 'Gate' sit down with us at the negotiation table. By force, even if we have to pin their heads down.

Before we can negotiate, we also require more information about them.

Regarding the arrested criminals... Since we don't have a common language it has been slow, but little by little we managed to get some information out of them. However, there is no way we can rely solely on that. Somebody will have to go and confirm things with their own eyes and ears.

Therefore it will be necessary for us to set foot on the other side of the 'Gate'.

Still, we proceed towards uncivilized soil and savages that massacred nonresisting civilians. We have to be prepared for a corresponding amount of danger.

In any case, going in unarmed is impossible. Furthermore, depending on the circumstances inside the Special Region, the possibility of war has to be considered. Who in that savage land is friend and who is foe, this judgement has to lie—to a certain degree—with those on the scene.

Going into a dangerous place on purpose is not necessary. Rather, it'll be fine, if we destroy the 'Gate' to prevent it from ever opening again. I know that a part of the opposition holds such views. 'If we just close the gate, we are safe', is what they are saying, right?

From now on, the Japanese citizens will have to live their lives embraced by the insecurity of where a similar 'Gate' might appear next time. Maybe this time the 'Gate' will open in front of your house, in front of your family? Furthermore, there's also the question of how to compensate the victims and the bereaved.

If there is a government in the Special Region and somebody there is in charge, as the government of our country we must firmly demand a sincere apology, reparations and the extradition of personnels responsible from them.

If the opposing party doesn't comply, we will capture the mastermind with our own hands and bring them to justice. If they have assets, we will seize them, even by force, and use them to give reparations to the bereaved families. This is, also when looking at the feelings of the victims and their families, natural. Therefore, we, the Japanese government, have decided to dispatch the the JSDF to the other side of the 'Gate' in the necessary scope. The objective is to investigate, to search and apprehend the mastermind behind the Ginza Incident, and to forcibly execute the acquisition of reparations."


While parts of the opposition objected, both houses of the Diet approved the Special Region JSDF Dispatch Special Bill.

Furthermore, the government of the USA announces: "Regarding the investigations inside the "Gate", you have our full cooperation." To this, Prime Minister Houjou's reply is: "At the present time, there is no need, but depending on the circumstances, it is also possible that we might request assistance. In that case we'll get back to you."

Additionally, the Chinese government considers it most appropriate if the supernatural existence called "Gate" is put under international control. Just because it appeared in Japan, they say, a single country shouldn't have sole control of it. Least of all, so their comment, can anyone be allowed to monopolize the profits gained from there.
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Old 2011-06-10, 23:40   Link #62
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will there be scanlations for this series?
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Old 2011-06-10, 23:48   Link #63
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Ooooh update.

It's a good thing the prologue shows the tone and scope of the story quite well, and right off the bat showing off the political aspects with this small, if relevant piece on how the Japanese government views the entire situation. Good stuff
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Old 2011-06-11, 04:51   Link #64
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will there be scanlations for this series?
Seeing as how the inside of the novels are entirely text, I'm not sure what the point of scanlations would be.
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Old 2011-06-12, 05:36   Link #65
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More like a translation than a scanlation...
Anyways, looking forward for the next update. Keep up the awesome work!
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Old 2011-06-21, 08:50   Link #66
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Volume 4 has a pretty badass cover.



Can't quite tell due to the size, but it's allot more dramatic/realistic looking than the previous ones.
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Old 2011-06-22, 02:34   Link #67
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What year is it set?

It seems odd all the JSDF personnel are depicted with the older Type 64 assault rifle.
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Old 2011-06-22, 05:44   Link #68
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What year is it set?

It seems odd all the JSDF personnel are depicted with the older Type 64 assault rifle.
Present day. Though do keep in mind that they do still have the Type 64 in service despite the Type 89 being available.


Also keep in mind that they're not just fighting people in this world. They're potentially fighting large and very tough fantasy creatures. Like a troll. 10-12 feet tall and built with the giant bones and muscle of a male silver back gorilla. Against something like that, you would probably want to opt to your older Type 64's, simply because their 7.62 cartridges pack more punch.
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Old 2011-06-22, 06:57   Link #69
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i wish the japs have online books that worl make translating a sinch all youd need is a proof reader then
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Old 2011-06-22, 09:26   Link #70
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i wish the japs have online books that worl make translating a sinch all youd need is a proof reader then
I actually think there are earlier online versions of this series floating around online, and there are plenty of previews.


The biggest problem is getting dedicated translators for a series that's this obscure outside of Japan (most translation projects like this are motivated because there was an anime/manga series), plus the fact that this ISN'T a light novel. There's allot more material to translate.
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Old 2011-06-23, 00:59   Link #71
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Present day. Though do keep in mind that they do still have the Type 64 in service despite the Type 89 being available.


Also keep in mind that they're not just fighting people in this world. They're potentially fighting large and very tough fantasy creatures. Like a troll. 10-12 feet tall and built with the giant bones and muscle of a male silver back gorilla. Against something like that, you would probably want to opt to your older Type 64's, simply because their 7.62 cartridges pack more punch.
The JSDF's 7.62x51mm isn't comparable to the NATO standard but it would still cause greater damage than the 5.56x45mm.

That said I do agree they'd want something with more punch, I'd just expect to see the majority of soldiers armed with the newer rifle.
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Old 2011-06-23, 07:26   Link #72
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The JSDF's 7.62x51mm isn't comparable to the NATO standard but it would still cause greater damage than the 5.56x45mm.
Allegedly this was because the average Japanese soldier was smaller and couldn't eat up the recoil as well as larger western soldiers, but considering that even THOSE guys ultimately gave up trying to use 7.62X51mm in any capacity beyond semi auto battle rifles suggests that the JSDF might have been on to something with their reduced power cartridge.

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That said I do agree they'd want something with more punch, I'd just expect to see the majority of soldiers armed with the newer rifle.
Keep in mind that this is a recon unit they explicitly put together to go recon beyond the portal. So I'd imagine that they'd have SOME discretion about the equipment they'd use.

If the infantry that fought off the initial invasion in Tokyo had a great deal of trouble killing the larger fantasy monsters with the Type 89's, it'd be entirely reasonable fr the leader of the Recon platoon to request Type 64's to be taken out of storage for his unit. They DID built hundreds of thousands of the things.
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Old 2011-07-01, 12:49   Link #73
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It appears that they're going to be adopting a manga for this series.

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Old 2011-07-01, 12:55   Link #74
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It appears that they're going to be adopting a manga for this series.

Oh you know what, if this does get a manga series then



Depending on how it's handled and how good the art is, could very well take over ID's top spot for me on anything that involves fantasy and female elf warriors
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Old 2011-07-01, 16:10   Link #75
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It is worth noting that the author is a retired soldier and may just have a preference for the older gun, and not the new fangled thing. Its not uncommon to see soldiers be hesitant about entrusting their lives to new pieces of equipment that's quality and reliability are yet to be proven. A perfect example would be the M1 to the M-16 transition. Initially a lot of the older soldiers HATED the M-16. Not only did it pack a lot less kick, (it was called a pea shooter) It also had a tendency to foul up and jam.
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Old 2011-07-01, 16:19   Link #76
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Reading up on the Type 64 rifle, one could say the weaker 7.62 round used in it makes it one of the few true assault rifles in 7.62 NATO.
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Old 2011-07-01, 22:04   Link #77
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It is worth noting that the author is a retired soldier and may just have a preference for the older gun, and not the new fangled thing. Its not uncommon to see soldiers be hesitant about entrusting their lives to new pieces of equipment that's quality and reliability are yet to be proven. A perfect example would be the M1 to the M-16 transition. Initially a lot of the older soldiers HATED the M-16. Not only did it pack a lot less kick, (it was called a pea shooter) It also had a tendency to foul up and jam.
Technically I think the transition went

M1-M14-M16

While that COULD be a reasoning behind it, considering that they're not just fighting against regular human type sized enemies, there could be plenty of motivation to bring something with a heavier round.

The transition to lighter assault rifle rounds happened under the context that

-An unarmored man hit by 5.56mm NATO is just as likely to be made a casualty as one hit by 7.62mm NATO
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-Modern firefights are often determined by volume of suppression fire than aimed shots.
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Old 2011-07-01, 23:43   Link #78
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It appears that they're going to be adopting a manga for this series.

Iffy about the character art, but the vehicles sure look nice

Given that manga is easier to translate than the hefty novels that Gate is, we can at least expect much faster updates on the manga than on the novel translations. Hell, if the manga takes off we might see some good progress on the novel translations as well
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Old 2011-07-02, 02:26   Link #79
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It appears that they're going to be adopting a manga for this series.

Nice. Is it already out now?
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Old 2011-07-02, 06:37   Link #80
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Nice. Is it already out now?
No idea. I'd probably wanna check on Baka Tsuki for more info (since that's where this news originated from).
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