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Old 2011-07-03, 00:42   Link #8041
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I wonder if Haruto loves the song "Grenade" by Bruno Mars... and I also wonder what will happen to Haruto after having sex with Eba...

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Old 2011-07-03, 04:14   Link #8042
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Haruto deserves what's coming to him. I won't be surprised if Eba runs off on another "tangent" and leave him in the dust again. But he dug his own grave.

IMO Eba's feelings for Haruto are not the same that he feels for her. He's all-in emotionally and unconditionally in love with her and I don't think it's anywhere close to that for Eba.

Gonna enjoy it when he gets screwed again.
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Old 2011-07-03, 06:15   Link #8043
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i think Seo will not taint Eba's character more (if he plans to end it)... She's too messed up already considering she was the leading lady here...

i feel that there will be another timeskip were asuka and friends have calmed down and can face haruto then he apologizes...
i just hate to think that Seo might pull the "no one really blames your decision because you really love her" again... it would be an eye sore...
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Old 2011-07-03, 08:21   Link #8044
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i think Seo will not taint Eba's character more (if he plans to end it)... She's too messed up already considering she was the leading lady here...
I just hope he won't do that anymore.
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Old 2011-07-03, 14:20   Link #8045
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Sorry folks, but you Eba haters have totally lost ANY kind of balance. Starting Kazama, she has done NOTHING AT ALL to deserve any kind of criticism whatsoever. And the few points where one could arguably be angry at her were either of minor consequence (refusing Haruto's earlier attempts to date), or a borderline decision which was understandable to a degree (dumping Haruto after the Nanami date and deciding to date Kazama).

When I read your echo chamber postings, one could get the impression that she was a scheming conniving minx. She isn't. Not remotely. So she neither needs to be "redeemed" or "more tainted".

Unbelievable stuff here *shakes head*

So, before we get more unsubstantial yelling here: Eba hater faction, what did she (not Haruto) do wrong? Serious entries with rational explanations only please.
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Old 2011-07-03, 15:18   Link #8046
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Here's my thoughts on how I would have handled the whole situation, mostly because I've been in Haruto's friend's shoes before.

On one hand, we've got Haruto. Childhood friend, but has proven that he can be selfish, a jerk, can't take criticism or any listen to any advice that goes against what he wants without getting angry. Through the course of the story, he's shown that he has no qualms about lying to people (like Nanami and Asuka), or going on a date with his ex-girlfriend while going out with someone else.

Now, if I was Haruto's friend in this situation, first thing I never would have done is give Eba a free pass after she hurt him like Seo had them do. She hurt Haruto badly, lied to him, dumped him for a stupid reason (in my opinion, others view it differently I'm sure), and then they didn't see each other for two years. As Haruto's friend, I wouldn't just say "it's fine". I'd say, stay "stay the hell away from him." He's my friend, he was hurt and I don't like seeing my friends hurt.

Fast forward two years later. Haruto is still lying and hiding things (and getting caught in those lies, like when Nanami saw him come out of the hotel with Shiori). On top of that, Asuka's joined the circle of good friends. Next thing you know, she gets dumped for Eba, who Haruto was seeing behind her back. Now, first off, my respect for Haruto would definitely drop, childhood friend or not, because he hurt a good girl to get back together with the one who hurt him. However, I wouldn't cut him out of my life or tell him to get back together with Asuka, as it's not my place. Plus, the damage has been done and I wouldn't want the poor girl living a lie. I'd yell at Haruto and call him an idiot, but I wouldn't stop being his friend.

However, by now Asuka is also my friend and she did absolutely nothing wrong, so I'm not going to stop hanging out with her because Haruto dumped her. I don't abandon friends that easily. I'd have no problems if Haruto wants to join us while we hang out, it's his choice. If it's awkward, it's his own fault.

This actually happened to me. Was friends with a guy and his girlfriend, both since highschool. He dumped her, but I refused to stop hanging out with his ex-girlfriend and other friends because she was also my friend. In the end, he stopped hanging out with us. The girl and I (and her husband, who was also a high school buddy) are like family to me now-- been friends for 17 years-- and no one even talks to the other guy anymore. We didn't push him out-- it was his choice to leave and it would have been asinine of him to ask us to take sides between friends. We hung out a few times when she wasn't around, but most big get togethers he didn't shown up for because she was there. Again, his choice, as he was always welcome.

That's probably the best way you can handle a situation like thus when you're friends with both parties.
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Old 2011-07-03, 15:47   Link #8047
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sigh... it's really tiring to explain things repeatedly...

please dont use the "no one's perfect" phrase... there's no sense in explaining using that excuse...

"what did she (not Haruto) do wrong?"

i give u one: She chose kazama over haruto.

Eba's priority = Kazama > Haruto (if u dont understand ">", it means greater than)

- whatever reason she or YOU have, this is what happened and it hurt Haruto and disappointed the gang, especially without communication and with just an inserted letter that obviously doesn't make sense... her selfish actions "confused" (check below why) Haruto and caused him to leave Hiroshima and live in an unfamiliar city to "save" Eba. unfortunately, he became the stalker, the heartless, the loser, and lost his direction, the hell does he care about studies and college...

My Question:
for now,

Why did she get intimate with Haruto the night before he returned to hiroshima from his schooltrip when she really intend to break up with him using an inserted/hidden (yes she hid it, if not, she can just say it) letter that caused the "confusion" (check above) of Haruto?
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Old 2011-07-03, 16:46   Link #8048
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"what did she (not Haruto) do wrong?"

i give u one: She chose kazama over haruto.
Hello? That's "wrong"? Are you serious? If she wanted, she could date Takahashi, for crying out loud, and noone would have a shred of a right to criticize her for that.

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Eba's priority = Kazama > Haruto (if u dont understand ">", it means greater than)
And so what? She was in a lukewarm long distance relationship with Haruto, saw him walking hand in hand with Nanami and decided to get out of the way. Instead, she decided to fulfill the deathwish of a guy who she was indebted to, and dated him - faithfully - until his death.

In my book, this is something admirable. If in your book, this is something she "did wrong", you must have some seriously strange morals and priorities.

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- whatever reason she or YOU have, this is what happened and it hurt Haruto and disappointed the gang, especially without communication and with just an inserted letter that obviously doesn't make sense...
That it "hurt Haruto" and almost hilariously "disappointed the gang" is totally beside the point. If she feels she should dump Haruto, that's her god-given right. You can make a point that the letter was the wrong way to do it - fair enough, this can be listed as "wrong" - but the call was hers to make and perfectly understandable.

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her selfish actions "confused" (check below why) Haruto and caused him to leave Hiroshima and live in an unfamiliar city to "save" Eba. unfortunately, he became the stalker, the heartless, the loser, and lost his direction, the hell does he care about studies and college...
All of that were decisions of HARUTO, not Eba. Making her responsible for all that is totally absurd.

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Why did she get intimate with Haruto the night before he returned to hiroshima from his schooltrip when she really intend to break up with him using an inserted/hidden (yes she hid it, if not, she can just say it) letter that caused the "confusion" (check above) of Haruto?
"Get intimate"? What are you talking about? They were having a few mere minutes of awkward time with each other and barely talked during that time. If anything, it convinced her that their relationship was at the brink in the first place, so she left it in the bag to quit - if Haruto had been more positive, she could have still taken it with her.

She's absolutely not the confrontational type, so feel free to blame her for using the letter to break up. But this constant demonization from some guys on this board is TOTALLY blowing things way out of proportion. She's perfectly fine as a person and does not NEED any form of "redemption".
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Old 2011-07-03, 16:52   Link #8049
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In my book, this is something admirable. If in your book, this is something she "did wrong", you must have some seriously strange morals and priorities.
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This right here is why people get angry with you. Questioning people's morals and decency because you have different views on things will just get people riled up. People in different countries and families are raised differently. Just look at the difference between Japan and America-- here in the States, child pornography is a hugely bad thing (as I feel it should be), but in Japan, it's fairly rampant in their manga. I may not agree with how they see things, but just like everything else, morals are man-made opinions, not facts, so questioning them will get you nowhere (or flamed by some).

That's all I'm saying on this because, frankly, I'm tired of the boards degenerating into flame wars over who's right and who's wrong. No one here is either-- they just believe differently.
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Old 2011-07-03, 17:06   Link #8050
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This right here is why people get angry with you. Questioning people's morals and decency because you have different views on things will just get people riled up. People in different countries and families are raised differently. Just look at the difference between Japan and America-- here in the States, child pornography is a hugely bad thing (as I feel it should be), but in Japan, it's fairly rampant in their manga. I may not agree with how they see things, but just like everything else, morals are man-made opinions, not facts, so questioning them will get you nowhere (or flamed by some).

That's all I'm saying on this because, frankly, I'm tired of the boards degenerating into flame wars over who's right and who's wrong. No one here is either-- they just believe differently.
That's silly. You have to be able to question the right and wrong of cultures. If we couldn't how could we criticize the holocaust, or 9/11, because they're cultures found it acceptable to kill the Jews or kill Americans? I find while cultural relativism is interesting but its lack of ability to seek some objective morals between cultures is just plain wrong.

Child Porn exploits children and I could use logic and reason to argue against its practice. This can be different than manga which it is just drawing and you'd have to serious consider if anyone is getting hurt or if it leads to people exploiting children in RL. A much difficult question either way. I find the quest to find some truth is important and just saying we believe differently is a plain cop-out which only leads to the degradation of society in the long run.
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Old 2011-07-03, 17:13   Link #8051
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Sorry folks, but you Eba haters have totally lost ANY kind of balance. Starting Kazama, she has done NOTHING AT ALL to deserve any kind of criticism whatsoever. And the few points where one could arguably be angry at her were either of minor consequence (refusing Haruto's earlier attempts to date), or a borderline decision which was understandable to a degree (dumping Haruto after the Nanami date and deciding to date Kazama).

When I read your echo chamber postings, one could get the impression that she was a scheming conniving minx. She isn't. Not remotely. So she neither needs to be "redeemed" or "more tainted".

Unbelievable stuff here *shakes head*

So, before we get more unsubstantial yelling here: Eba hater faction, what did she (not Haruto) do wrong? Serious entries with rational explanations only please.
You know I would have been more accepting of Eba going out with Kazuma if he actually got something her from besides simply being there, yea I'm talking about getting some.
He may have been a good guy n' all but I find it hard to believe he wouldn't want some, I mean Eba is a looker.
Sure she did to help him through it but they were teenagers, Kazuma was easy going in regards to his disease and I would have expected him to get more out of Eba than he did.
It's cause of that that I didn't quite like Eba going out with him just for the sake of being there(as admirable as that may be)

Can't recall but did Kazuma know Eba wasn't really in love him and just there for his sake?(btw I won't reply to any argument about whether or not she was in love with him, can't be arsed with that one, I just want to know if it was made clear or not, too lazy to go read it all again)


BTW was it ever cleared up about the time line of when Eba moved back?
As I recall it went like

Eba moved back
Kazuma aske her out, she rejects him cause she's with Haruto
Then Kazuma later reveals his illness but still rejected(man thats gotta be awkward)
After that I'm guessing Eba catches Haruto and Nanami, then decides to break up with Haruto and date Kazuma.

Just so people know I just want to know what happens, as I can't remember these things being cleared up or not.
Was always on my mind back then but as usual I tend to forget alot of stuff.
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That's silly. You have to be able to question the right and wrong of cultures. If we couldn't how could we criticize the holocaust, or 9/11, because they're cultures found it acceptable to kill the Jews or kill Americans? I find while cultural relativism is interesting but its lack of ability to seek some objective morals between cultures is just plain wrong.

Child Porn exploits children and I could use logic and reason to argue against its practice. This can be different than manga which it is just drawing and you'd have to serious consider if anyone is getting hurt or if it leads to people exploiting children in RL. A much difficult question either way. I find the quest to find some truth is important and just saying we believe differently is a plain cop-out which only leads to the degradation of society in the long run.
Yes, but you're talking about extreme cases here. We're talking about a manga break-up and telling people they've got bad morals because they don't agree with the way Eba did things. There's a huge difference between murdering millions of innocent people (which pretty much the whole world believes is wrong) or exploiting children and having an opinion on how someone gets dumped. Obviously, people will disagree about something like that, but I was just pointing out that the reason why people get angry at him is because he takes the holier-than-thou high road and disregards their opinions as immoral. I can understand if he wants them to make points about why they believe a certain way, but asking for that and then telling them they're wrong just makes a person look like a jerk.

Obviously, you have to use some judgment on certain cases-- as I said, I'm American, I'm completely against child pornography and I've made it quite vocal (just look at the Kodomo no Jikan thread where I trashed the manga as it moved towards the teacher/11 year old student romance instead of the more familial route I was looking for). However, others feel that it's fine because it's make believe and not real life and they would never consider a situation like that in real life ok. I may not like it, but I'm also of the same stance on video games-- that violent games don't make people violent.

You yourself said "some objective morals". I believe things like murder, rape, slavery, etc are all common moral grounds that span cultures (most, anyway). Breaking up with your boyfriend isn't (it's a really minor thing in the long run) and someone who thinks Eba did something wrong is entitled to that opinion, just as much as those who believed she did the right thing. There's not a universally accepted moral stance like there is when if comes to the before-mentioned atrocities. I personally felt she made a stupid choice (of course, I think Haruto's choices were just as stupid, so I don't think she gets all the blame like some believe). I don't see pity dating a dying guy and cutting all contact with your boyfriend after leaving a note in a bag as a good thing.

It's the same thing with Haruto's friends. Some believe they did the right thing, others believe they were morons and some are in between. It doesn't make any of them morally better than the other.
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Old 2011-07-03, 18:03   Link #8053
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I find it funny you guys are taking this way out of a proportion. Just CALM THE FREAK DOWN! We can go at this so many times, but Seo Kouji is the one holding the pencils and pens.
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Old 2011-07-03, 19:07   Link #8054
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Yes, but you're talking about extreme cases here. We're talking about a manga break-up and telling people they've got bad morals because they don't agree with the way Eba did things. There's a huge difference between murdering millions of innocent people (which pretty much the whole world believes is wrong) or exploiting children and having an opinion on how someone gets dumped. Obviously, people will disagree about something like that, but I was just pointing out that the reason why people get angry at him is because he takes the holier-than-thou high road and disregards their opinions as immoral. I can understand if he wants them to make points about why they believe a certain way, but asking for that and then telling them they're wrong just makes a person look like a jerk.

Obviously, you have to use some judgment on certain cases-- as I said, I'm American, I'm completely against child pornography and I've made it quite vocal (just look at the Kodomo no Jikan thread where I trashed the manga as it moved towards the teacher/11 year old student romance instead of the more familial route I was looking for). However, others feel that it's fine because it's make believe and not real life and they would never consider a situation like that in real life ok. I may not like it, but I'm also of the same stance on video games-- that violent games don't make people violent.

You yourself said "some objective morals". I believe things like murder, rape, slavery, etc are all common moral grounds that span cultures (most, anyway). Breaking up with your boyfriend isn't (it's a really minor thing in the long run) and someone who thinks Eba did something wrong is entitled to that opinion, just as much as those who believed she did the right thing. There's not a universally accepted moral stance like there is when if comes to the before-mentioned atrocities. I personally felt she made a stupid choice (of course, I think Haruto's choices were just as stupid, so I don't think she gets all the blame like some believe). I don't see pity dating a dying guy and cutting all contact with your boyfriend after leaving a note in a bag as a good thing.

It's the same thing with Haruto's friends. Some believe they did the right thing, others believe they were morons and some are in between. It doesn't make any of them morally better than the other.
Simply put, Mentar has a right to his opinion and if he finds fault with others opinions/reasoning, I see no reason for him not to voice it and give his own as long as he's staying within the bounds of common decency. He doesn't seem to talk in an extremely friendly way about this issue but he doesn't have to. This forum is meant to debate as much as anything else.

We probably will never find an objective answer or a consensus on issues like this but that doesn't mean the debate isn't worth having. We can definitely get people thinking about certain situations and consider/reconsider their own beliefs.
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Old 2011-07-03, 20:18   Link #8055
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That's silly. You have to be able to question the right and wrong of cultures. If we couldn't how could we criticize the holocaust, or 9/11, because they're cultures found it acceptable to kill the Jews or kill Americans? I find while cultural relativism is interesting but its lack of ability to seek some objective morals between cultures is just plain wrong.
I don't believe in objective morals but... heaven forbid we actually form an opinion about some culture's practices. That would be closed-minded.

Random edit so that I am not entirely off-topic: People are just still butt-hurt that Eba chose Kazama over Haruto at that point. I'm sure if we go back far enough (like 200 pages) we'll see stuff like NTR being thrown around, even though it really wasn't. In retrospect, Kazama was a better character than Haruto - too bad he croaked
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Old 2011-07-03, 22:56   Link #8056
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I find it funny you guys are taking this way out of a proportion. Just CALM THE FREAK DOWN! We can go at this so many times, but Seo Kouji is the one holding the pencils and pens.
This loop has happened so many times during this forum, so many
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Old 2011-07-03, 23:00   Link #8057
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Eba moved back
Kazuma aske her out, she rejects him cause she's with Haruto
Then Kazuma later reveals his illness but still rejected(man thats gotta be awkward)
After that I'm guessing Eba catches Haruto and Nanami, then decides to break up with Haruto and date Kazuma.

Just so people know I just want to know what happens, as I can't remember these things being cleared up or not.
Was always on my mind back then but as usual I tend to forget alot of stuff.
if i remember correctly, even before eba catches haruto with nanami, she already wrote that letter in the giftbag..
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if i remember correctly, even before eba catches haruto with nanami, she already wrote that letter in the giftbag..
Well, she didn't even have the gift bag with her when she caught him, so I'm going to assume she wrote after catching him and before even hearing what he had to say.
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Old 2011-07-04, 02:07   Link #8059
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this might be long, so bear with it...u might accept some of my points..

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Hello? That's "wrong"? Are you serious? If she wanted, she could date Takahashi, for crying out loud, and noone would have a shred of a right to criticize her for that.
when choosing a person over the other, someone would definitely get hurt.

yes, it isnt wrong to choose who you want to be with, but that reasoning is invalid because she created (intentionally or not) some "situations", and we'll encounter that later in this post...

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And so what? She was in a lukewarm long distance relationship with Haruto, saw him walking hand in hand with Nanami and decided to get out of the way. Instead, she decided to fulfill the deathwish of a guy who she was indebted to, and dated him - faithfully - until his death.
-if she's bored with the relationship, then end it properly. not by a confusing letter
or cut communication without any notice.. -this would end up you(Haruto) asking "WHY?"

-read chapter 70 again, kimi_no_iru_machi/v09/c070/5 ... he explained things to her, the guy was serious and she believes him. -after settling things, then a break up? "why?"

-Did she really love Kazama or is she still thinking of Haruto?
kimi_no_iru_machi/v12/c098/13
kimi_no_iru_machi/v12/c098/14
i feel sorry for these guys..they are confused... and only eba knows the truth...
actually my idea here is that Haruto said those things to lighten up Kazama for pitying himself, which means that's exactly what Haruto feels for him, "pity"...
if not, then this just means Haruto was telling the truth that Eba didnt just date him out of pity, so she has developed her feelings for kazama...
so who caused this confusion? still Eba... she keeps everyone hanging...

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In my book, this is something admirable. If in your book, this is something she "did wrong", you must have some seriously strange morals and priorities.
this?: Eba's priority = Kazama > Haruto
i just said that this is what happened... she chose kazama over haruto... and now, she visits his workplace, she makes excuses to be alone with him, then she just confessed to him knowing he has Asuka... talking about morals... she wanted to get Haruto back even if it is stealing from another girl... yes, it really depends on Haruto's answer, but still she did it... yes, she confessed and dont tell me she doesnt want an answer...

or was she just thinking back then when she dated Kazama that she will just try to win Haruto back after Kazama dies...yes, she expected him to die because she didnt force kazama to take surgery or rather just respect his decision which made Kiyomi angry.. yeah, morals...

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That it "hurt Haruto" and almost hilariously "disappointed the gang" is totally beside the point. If she feels she should dump Haruto, that's her god-given right. You can make a point that the letter was the wrong way to do it - fair enough, this can be listed as "wrong" - but the call was hers to make and perfectly understandable.
-so it's fine hurting people... yes, it's her choice...sorry for the one who was dumped... but guess who came back? -Eba, crying "i love u"... "i was such a meanie before weee weee weee".. its like that

-(this is common sense) the gang accepted her as a friend and girlfriend of haruto, who wouldnt be disappointed when your friend is spacing out, depressed, checking his cellphone from time to time hoping eba will contact him. they thought she will make him happy... that's the disappointment...OMG, i cant believe you cant think of this......... and you want your childhood friend to be with this girl again? "who cares, its his life, not mine" - yeah, you're a good friend...

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All of that were decisions of HARUTO, not Eba. Making her responsible for all that is totally absurd.
-Haruto's decisions, yeah, because she caused him these "confusions"... why? ... as ive said on the above statements...check it again.. there's more later...

kimi_no_iru_machi/v04/c029/15
kimi_no_iru_machi/v04/c029/16 - Haruto's face here is so stupid, it's like "Hell yeah! Im the man!" haha!!

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"Get intimate"? What are you talking about? They were having a few mere minutes of awkward time with each other and barely talked during that time. If anything, it convinced her that their relationship was at the brink in the first place, so she left it in the bag to quit - if Haruto had been more positive, she could have still taken it with her.
-this is an eye sore... sorry... but this is really an obvious denial..

kimi_no_iru_machi/v09/c070/8 - more on the succeeding pages
-this would be like:
HARUTO: "who would have thought i will be dumped after this...she cut off all communications..."
ME: "actually u are already dumped before that because the letter was already made, check inside the bag, quick..."
HARUTO: "EH?! REALLYYYY?!!!"

-note: so she already met kazama before this kissing scene happened (considering the thought of the letter was about)...safe to say that she made her decision before this scene..

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She's absolutely not the confrontational type, so feel free to blame her for using the letter to break up. But this constant demonization from some guys on this board is TOTALLY blowing things way out of proportion. She's perfectly fine as a person and does not NEED any form of "redemption".
- sigh, this is why i said dont use the "no one's perfect" excuse.. this is like "i missed, so what can i do?"... that's why i prefer the "cause and effect" idea..

- so comment if u want... you might see this as flaming but actually not.. but i admit i stressed some of my emotions here, so sorry...

- but please, dont also use another excuse like "Seo was the stupid one for making her like that"..

- sorry for using other forum's links... (for admins)
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Old 2011-07-04, 03:04   Link #8060
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@ Mentar
sigh... it's really tiring to explain things repeatedly...

please dont use the "no one's perfect" phrase... there's no sense in explaining using that excuse...

Eba's priority = Kazama > Haruto (if u dont understand ">", it means greater than)

- whatever reason she or YOU have,
It's okay to express your opinion/feeling on topics but when you venture in to attacking fellow posters who disagrees with your view, you come off as an arrogant troll. Attacking and belittling other people's opinions/views on subjects does nothing to validate your points. It just makes your message to carry less weight to a point where it can be view as a rant.

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