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Old 2011-07-03, 17:27   Link #721
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I didn't understand you :O
Why won't I enjoy it?
Because visual novels are meant to be read, not interpreted. Imagine your favorite book. Now imagine it written in pig latin. Atlas is like that at the best of times. Sure, you can work out its meaning, but doing so will involve using your brain for every single line. If it feels like work, you stop enjoying it. If you stop enjoying it, then why are you even reading it?

Plus there's about a 70% chance atlas will misinterpret something, so even if you get a real sentence, the possibiliy of it being wrong will always weigh on your mind.

Don't read it with atlas because it wasn't meant to be read with atlas. Writers work too long and hard for some machine translator to f*ck up their script. Stress builds up for every line and you'll run out of steam eventually.
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Old 2011-07-03, 18:35   Link #722
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Writers work too long and hard for some machine translator to f*ck up their script.
They also work too long and hard for their script not to be read you know.
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Old 2011-07-03, 18:47   Link #723
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They also work too long and hard for their script not to be read you know.
As someone who writes as a hobby and someone who's used atlas in combination with a kanji-romaji converter to help me translate half a game, I can assure you that I'd rather my work be burned than someone think that that machine translated garbage is an example of my writing.
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Old 2011-07-03, 19:22   Link #724
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As someone who writes as a hobby and someone who's used atlas in combination with a kanji-romaji converter to help me translate half a game, I can assure you that I'd rather my work be burned than someone think that that machine translated garbage is an example of my writing.
Though in principle I agree with you (I have basic to intermediate knowledge of Japanese and will be manually slogging through it), I do think it's better to read a story any way you can than not read it at all.

You either have the paitience of a saint in waiting for a translation, or the persistence of a saint in translating it yourself.
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Old 2011-07-04, 01:42   Link #725
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Machine translation of Japanese is crap compared to languages that are more similar to English. On top of that, the writing in Rewrite is filled with a lot of clever and not-so-clever puns, which makes it hard to translate even for humans. For example:

Spoiler for Spoiler of a semi-funny joke:


My opinion is that poor translations (machine or otherwise) ruin the mood. If you're reading for educational purposes (say, learning Japanese while playing an interesting game), I'd say use every tool at your disposal to try to understand it. But if you're playing purely for an entertaining experience, then I'm with Elvin: you're going to get a lot more out of the game with a carefully written and reviewed translation than having to stop every sentence to mentally correct a poorly written one.
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Old 2011-07-04, 04:51   Link #726
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Rewrite is filled with a lot of clever and not-so-clever puns
Like that one
Spoiler for Common route:
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Old 2011-07-04, 06:13   Link #727
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And there is another route that is mainly for Jokes [乙月杯日(・人・)ルート] .=.= all the characters were like Oppai~ Oppai=.= I saw the route on Niconico.. =.= Kinda shock.. You have to finish Terra route [ true end] and have some requirement.
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Old 2011-07-04, 07:17   Link #728
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Spoiler for Spoiler of a semi-funny joke:
The Kanon translation had those little optional pop up boxes for obscure jokes and references. I thought that was neat.

I've not played any other translated vn with a system like that, not so neat.
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Old 2011-07-04, 11:28   Link #729
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If I like the story of ever 17, will I like this story too? No spoiler of course. And is Yoshino supposed to be Sunohara of this game?
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Old 2011-07-04, 18:24   Link #730
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And there is another route that is mainly for Jokes [乙月杯日(・人・)ルート] .=.= all the characters were like Oppai~ Oppai=.= I saw the route on Niconico.. =.= Kinda shock.. You have to finish Terra route [ true end] and have some requirement.
This a full route like the Baseball Route or extra stuff like Jet Saito?
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Old 2011-07-04, 22:23   Link #731
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And there is another route that is mainly for Jokes [乙月杯日(・人・)ルート] .=.= all the characters were like Oppai~ Oppai=.= I saw the route on Niconico.. =.= Kinda shock.. You have to finish Terra route [ true end] and have some requirement.
Boobies!

lol. If it ain't a full route like the hidden route in Clannad, I will ask Jun Maeda wth is up with his company.
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Old 2011-07-05, 06:05   Link #732
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more like an extra route .
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Old 2011-07-07, 08:24   Link #733
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And mine arrived in the mail today!

I've been very good at keeping away from spoilers, lets see just how good this is.
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Old 2011-07-07, 12:32   Link #734
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Mine also arrived today, but I missed it due to not being while post truck was around. I guess I'll pick it up later today or tomorrow at the latest.
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Old 2011-07-07, 19:00   Link #735
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Mine also arrived yesterday ! ^^ Dunno when I'll be able to read it but I'm glad it's here.
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Old 2011-07-07, 20:35   Link #736
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I really am expecting to be a good novel, haven't read it yet (heck i dont even have it, no money atm), but LB! and Clannad didnt dissapoint me, so im definitely getting this!

BTW, just out of curiosity, but is 2nd opening in the game?
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Old 2011-07-08, 12:45   Link #737
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I got mine 2 days ago, but I recently installed it to have the problem:
"This Game is Japan Only"

I know there was a patch to fix the demo version of that error before, but I had trouble finding it. Can someone re-supply a link here? Much appreciated.

Also, does that patch even work on the original version or is it only limited to the demo of Rewrite?

edit: nvr mind, found it. I'm going to try to apply the patch and/or crack to the vn now.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...=64557&page=22 <-Crack and patch located here

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Old 2011-07-08, 14:10   Link #738
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Well,after playing this VN for 4 days (non-stop ) ... I must admit,Lucia route is the best in here (among Sizuru and Chihaya)
Typically an KEY scenario (first inserting a romantic event,and then crushing it with an Tragedy .... and about the ending,you can assume she's like Kyou from Clannad )

Anyway,does anybody knew the Translation for the text that showed up before Lucia ED ? This part is the only thing that I don't really knew
(cuz the translator can't copy it)

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Old 2011-07-08, 14:47   Link #739
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I got mine 2 days ago, but I recently installed it to have the problem:
"This Game is Japan Only"

I know there was a patch to fix the demo version of that error before, but I had trouble finding it. Can someone re-supply a link here? Much appreciated.

Also, does that patch even work on the original version or is it only limited to the demo of Rewrite?

edit: nvr mind, found it. I'm going to try to apply the patch and/or crack to the vn now.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...=64557&page=22 <-Crack and patch located here
This one should work: http://www.mediafire.com/?pm7udjtajy04qxj
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Old 2011-07-08, 14:55   Link #740
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Use RLSE_Loader , [ you can download from here:http://u.115.com/file/f22ae7266a]
Use the loader , load it with siglus engine.exe [ Step 1 : after opening the loader , click start , then data game , then data and the click on siglus engine and load it .]
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Thanks, but after playing a while with the RLSE loader and a no-dvd patch, it fixed the non-japanese windows issue.
(no-dvd patch:http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/a...5D-rewrite.rar)

^the above link is from the site anime-sharing, but it includes the VN as well (which I believe is against animesuki's ToS, so I'll just leave it at the patch link only)
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