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Old 2011-07-07, 16:33   Link #3221
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Here's a dumb question...

Is the old woman who curbstomps both Nanoha and Fate with subpar equipement part of the legendary three admirals? I find a somwhat considerable resemblance beteween her and the old lady sitting alongside the other two great admirals during that scene on StrikerS where Vita said she likes those old guys.
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Old 2011-07-07, 16:43   Link #3222
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Here's a dumb question...

Is the old woman who curbstomps both Nanoha and Fate with subpar equipement part of the legendary three admirals? I find a somwhat considerable resemblance beteween her and the old lady sitting alongside the other two great admirals during that scene on StrikerS where Vita said she likes those old guys.
Yeah, IIRC, that was Midget Crowbel that took them both out.
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Old 2011-07-07, 16:52   Link #3223
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Yeah, IIRC, that was Midget Crowbel that took them both out.
lol "Midget" xD

By the way, what "IIRC" stands for o.o?
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Old 2011-07-07, 16:55   Link #3224
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lol "Midget" xD

By the way, what "IIRC" stands for o.o?
"If I remember correctly."
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Old 2011-07-07, 20:07   Link #3225
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The most common explanation is that she inherited all her spells from Reinforce and Rein only had world-shattering stuff at her disposal. She herself, however, was too lazy (or just uninterested) in learning personal combat magic, especially with the Wolkies literally ready to die defending her. Remember that she was never particularly interested in magic (unlike Nanoha).
Actually, Rein did have Bloody Dagger and Photon Lancer, while Battle of Aces showed that she has a buster and detonating bind too. At the very least. So she's hardly incapable of anti-personnel combat.
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Old 2011-07-07, 20:11   Link #3226
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One theory is that when the Tome of the Night Sky was destroyed, Hayate lost all of the "stolen" data, like the Starlight Breaker and Photon Lancer and such. But there's nothing saying that Hayate has lost access to those, given how little she uses magic in the first place.
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Old 2011-07-07, 21:44   Link #3227
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She used Diabolic Emission. That tells me that there is at least potential for her to remember all the other spells.
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Old 2011-07-07, 21:46   Link #3228
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That's what I was thinking, but then again, Diabolic Emission is one of the "original" spells for Hayate and Reinforce, whereas spells like Starlight Breaker and Photon Lancer were gained from other spellcasters.
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Old 2011-07-08, 00:30   Link #3229
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So yeah, most mages you see walking around will be D or C rank tops. Even the B ranks are already elites.
Which booklet was that one from?

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Actually, Rein did have Bloody Dagger and Photon Lancer, while Battle of Aces showed that she has a buster and detonating bind too. At the very least. So she's hardly incapable of anti-personnel combat.
In the TBoA continuity, Rein is still around to actually teaching Hayate to use her power, so it's not really indicative...
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Old 2011-07-08, 00:36   Link #3230
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I was referring to the claim that Rein didn't have small stuff.
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Old 2011-07-08, 06:19   Link #3231
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Which booklet was that one from?
StrikerS DVD 1.
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Old 2011-07-08, 09:46   Link #3232
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Yeah, IIRC, that was Midget Crowbel that took them both out.
Not Midget. It's a different person, Vaan Corrodo, the Superintendant of the 4th Regiment Ground Forces Military Academy.

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One theory is that when the Tome of the Night Sky was destroyed, Hayate lost all of the "stolen" data, like the Starlight Breaker and Photon Lancer and such. But there's nothing saying that Hayate has lost access to those, given how little she uses magic in the first place.
Hayate didn't lose anything. Before she was destroyed, Reinforce Eins compiled everything in the Tome into a "manual" (in Nanohawiki's terms) and passed it on to her. The knowledge is there, but to master whatever's available, Hayate still needs hands-on experience.
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Old 2011-07-08, 11:12   Link #3233
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That's what I gathered, concerning the Tome; I was just simply relaying a theory that others have put forth.

Considering how simple it is to pass spells on to another person, it didn't make sense to me that Hayate would lose the knowledge of using Nanoha and Fate's spells; I simply figured that Tsuzuki merely wanted to show off new spells from Hayate, therefore instead of using Starlight Breaker and the like, we get new spells like Hiemdall and Hresvelgr.
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Old 2011-07-08, 17:20   Link #3234
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What details do we know about the Fifth Generation Terminal?
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Old 2011-07-08, 17:27   Link #3235
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What details do we know about the Fifth Generation Terminal?
The ones on Fate & Bardiche's NEXT design and, if we are lucky, some more on Nanoha with Fortress Mode and Strike Cannon 2nd NEXT design. IIRC someone mentioned that some supplemental material revealed that Raising Heart also received the 5th Gen upgrade but i'm not completely trusty on that info.
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Old 2011-07-08, 17:29   Link #3236
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What details do we know about the Fifth Generation Terminal?
According to the Nanoha wiki it allows a mage's device "to convert mana into physical energy to counteract anti-magical effects" and that Bardiche has been upgraded into one.
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Old 2011-07-10, 06:44   Link #3237
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Not Midget. It's a different person, Vaan Corrodo, the Superintendant of the 4th Regiment Ground Forces Military Academy.
WOW! There is actual name... where it was given btw?
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Old 2011-07-10, 08:55   Link #3238
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WOW! There is actual name... where it was given btw?
Japanese wiki (third from the bottom). And it's "CorrAdo", after the VW car.
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Where did the Japanese wiki get it from?
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Old 2011-07-10, 19:05   Link #3240
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One of the many, many untranslated or never even scanned booklets and magazines?
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