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Old 2011-08-16, 15:05   Link #261
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Worse comes to worst, they can always pretend Bush's a Democrat and always has been. In fact, he stole the election from the Republican candidate Al Gore, with the help of the ACLU or Acorn or something.
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Old 2011-08-16, 15:06   Link #262
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Pollution kills, but Carbon Dioxide doesn't - not in the quantities we're getting. Except, of course, if you consider its action as a greenhouse gas, and then we're back to the global warming thing.
Except cars also produce Carbon Monoxide. They have systems in place to convert that to Carbon Dioxide, but those systems have to work to prevent your car becoming a driving hazard zone. Hence, tests. Properly working filters also help reduce smog levels in big cities, another case where exhaust fumes can cause illness or death.
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Old 2011-08-16, 15:13   Link #263
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http://kut.org/2011/08/perry-stirs-f...-near-treason/
Perry has started off his campaign by putting his foot in his mouth
Its all treacherous, treasonous
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Old 2011-08-16, 15:15   Link #264
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You know, that is really incredibly blatant. Imagine if Ron Paul actually got the republican nomination? The media would implode: "Where was Ron Paul, he's just suddenly exploded onto the scene!" He was there all along , you were all just purposefully ignoring him...
Or they could complain about living in a one-party dictatorship, where Obama runs for reelection unimpeded by any opposing candidate.
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Old 2011-08-16, 15:16   Link #265
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Perry has started off his campaign by putting his foot in his mouth
Its all treacherous, treasonous
And my god... that facial expression from his picture in that article... reeks of douschebaggery.
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Old 2011-08-16, 15:26   Link #266
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Treason eh? And what do you call threatening to secede Texas from the US? Gee, I'm sure there's a word for that somewhere...
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Old 2011-08-16, 15:34   Link #267
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there are republicans that blame Obama for the Auto company bankruptcies.
I think they will blame Obama for everything from nothing having sex with their wives(husband, mistress or hookers) to didnt get to eating what want it for Breakfast

I know that Obama isnt perfect(bi-partisanship with these guys???) but they are blame him for everything, even know that its there fault in this.
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Old 2011-08-16, 15:47   Link #268
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Or they could complain about living in a one-party dictatorship, where Obama runs for reelection unimpeded by any opposing candidate.
That would actually be beyond hilarious.

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Treason eh? And what do you call threatening to secede Texas from the US? Gee, I'm sure there's a word for that somewhere...
PATRIOTIC!! Wait, not that one... it's on the tip of my tongue...

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Old 2011-08-16, 15:55   Link #269
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So what would they say if he actually got eletced president? XD
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Old 2011-08-16, 16:06   Link #270
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So what would they say if he actually got eletced president? XD
It seems America has fallen into Anarchy and lacks a president at all. Remember the good old days when he had people lead our country? Now we just have some empty space...
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Old 2011-08-16, 16:29   Link #271
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And the comparisons to Bush increases... even his report card...
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Old 2011-08-16, 17:00   Link #272
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It seems America has fallen into Anarchy and lacks a president at all. Remember the good old days when he had people lead our country? Now we just have some empty space...
You know, I wouldn't even mind a potential lack of leadership from a President if only the damned Congress would step up and do a decent job.

That being said, here are the non-Presidential listings for the 2012 elections (as they currently stand by region, specifics will be added later):

2012 Judicial elections
2012 House of Representatives elections
2012 Senate elections
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2012 Gubernatorial elections
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Old 2011-08-16, 20:27   Link #273
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Old 2011-08-16, 21:00   Link #274
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Except cars also produce Carbon Monoxide. They have systems in place to convert that to Carbon Dioxide, but those systems have to work to prevent your car becoming a driving hazard zone. Hence, tests. Properly working filters also help reduce smog levels in big cities, another case where exhaust fumes can cause illness or death.
Yeah. And the thing is any major release of CO2 is never just CO2. There are plenty of other things in factory smoke and car emissions that are deadly. And there is very few ways you can decrease them without decreasing emissions in general. So that's why I say we are better off focusing on the more down to Earth arguments about toxins, and decrease CO2 emission by proxy/side effect.
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Old 2011-08-16, 21:42   Link #275
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Yeah. And the thing is any major release of CO2 is never just CO2. There are plenty of other things in factory smoke and car emissions that are deadly. And there is very few ways you can decrease them without decreasing emissions in general. So that's why I say we are better off focusing on the more down to Earth arguments about toxins, and decrease CO2 emission by proxy/side effect.
Correct. It a city hasn't had its conventional air pollution under control (and still having smog/what-not), it is unwise to pursue CO2 cutting.
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Old 2011-08-16, 22:31   Link #276
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Treason eh? And what do you call threatening to secede Texas from the US? Gee, I'm sure there's a word for that somewhere...
It seems Perry has a record for this foot in the mouth stuff. Good luck explaining his statement about seceding from the Union away in a presidential debate.
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Old 2011-08-16, 22:37   Link #277
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Old 2011-08-16, 22:51   Link #278
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It seems Perry has a record for this foot in the mouth stuff. Good luck explaining his statement about seceding from the Union away in a presidential debate.
Oh I think we should give Perry a little more credit. He's been in politics for a long time, and I don't think those comments were accidental. I think he's purposefully pandering to his teahatter supporters because really without them, I imagine he'd have a hard time even getting considered for the nomination.
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Old 2011-08-16, 23:02   Link #279
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Oh I think we should give Perry a little more credit. He's been in politics for a long time, and I don't think those comments were accidental. I think he's purposefully pandering to his teahatter supporters because really without them, I imagine he'd have a hard time even getting considered for the nomination.
Do we REALLY need another politician leading the country? Why don't we just put a philosopher king in power?
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Old 2011-08-16, 23:14   Link #280
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Correct. It a city hasn't had its conventional air pollution under control (and still having smog/what-not), it is unwise to pursue CO2 cutting.
You missed my point; any air pollution limitation strategy would automatically decrease CO2 emission.

There is only so much filters can do. Hence emissions in general would need to be cut. And since CO2 is in nearly every kind of emission that exists, cutting emissions overall would cut CO2.
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