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Perfect 10 | 30 | 22.90% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 33 | 25.19% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 42 | 32.06% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 16 | 12.21% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 6 | 4.58% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 1.53% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.53% | |
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2011-08-23, 01:06 | Link #282 |
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I think if all Caster really wanted was someone who would care for her, it's a tragedy that Shirou invoked Saber and not Caster. Shirou and Caster would have been perfect for each other (at least until Shirou realises that Caster needs to absorb living energy just to hang around).
I think someone should have helped Caster as her shield was slowly giving way - it was obvious from Saber's expression that Gil was the bigger threat, and with only Caster, Lancer and Saber remaining, they weren't going to be able to get much more help against Gil once Caster and Kuzuki went down. She certainly held him off long enough for anyone to react if they wanted to. Why does Caster have elvish ears, by the way? |
2011-08-23, 01:57 | Link #283 | |
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I don't know how they tell about Medea in Typemoon universe, but she is essentially a witch who was betrayed by her loved one. Thus she become SO evil and demented. I don't know if she's originally evil enough though . As for the elfish ears... yeah, in the myth, Medea is not exactly a human, so...I leave the rest to your imagination.
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2011-08-23, 04:36 | Link #284 |
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She probably wouldn't need to. Shirou was smitten by Saber the moment she appeared and spoke to him. Caster would probably have the same entrance effect (although I'm not sure if Shirou was smitten by the pretty face or the aura of nobility - Caster needs to ensure she drops the hood during the entrance!!). Shirou would have been very happy had Saber just stayed at home, and didn't actually do anything heroic. If anything, his chauvinistic nature would have preferred that his female servant didn't put herself in any danger or fight at all, meaning Caster could just stay at home as one of his female groupies and absorb all the love and affection Shirou could pour on her. Her lack of principles and sense of justice will not make much of a difference as she won't be called upon to fight for them at all. She'd be like an.. Eliya, sitting pretty at home, and from the flashbacks while she wasn't heroic she never really came across as aggressively evil. Only when she starts to absorb human energy to feed her power (although she might not need to if she never had to fight) would Shirou strongly object to it, and even then he'd probably go all out to find a solution for it, like maybe giving her his nerves or something, which would touch her even more.
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2011-08-23, 05:16 | Link #285 | |
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It'll be a different case if Caster (after killing her summoner) met Shirou (before he summoned Saber) and made a pact with him. Then the story could go as you describe/like . Yeah, I feel that scenario is quite interesting too. Surely you already know that, in the game/visual novel, there are three different scenarios which Caster died in ALL of them (if memory serves me right). PS: Truth be told, did you know that in Shirou's case, in order to provide his servant (in your case, Caster) with mana, he has to make love with her ^^? Or, he doesn't have to, since Caster is a magician and she can provide her own mana by sucking people up (I doubt Shirou will agree with that method though^^).
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2011-08-23, 05:38 | Link #286 | |
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I haven't seen any of the visual novels - only watched the anime. Poor Caster. It's amazing how a villain with such little screentime can invoke such sympathy just because she died well. I understand Rider is also immensely popular too, although probably for different reasons. In the anime Saber didn't need to replenish mana until after she had used Excalibur to defeat Rider. Then Rin cast a spell to attach Shirou's nerves to Saber's or something, which allowed Saber to draw mana from Shirou. So I'm not sure whether Caster would need to drain people at all in the first place if she never fought. Of course it'll throw the entire plot out the window, but just saying that personality-wise, both Caster and Shirou would fulfil each others' expectations of the relationship, and be very happy. Plot-wise it most probably wouldn't work. |
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2011-08-23, 06:11 | Link #287 | |
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Even though she was kept in the background, she still have to provide back-up magic for Shirou, just like with Kuzuki Shoichiro. Thus, she still need to replenish her mana (which we know Shirou has a 'method' for that ).
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2011-08-23, 12:39 | Link #288 | |
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2011-08-23, 14:13 | Link #289 | |
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Oh yeah, while I'm at it, why in anime (especially medieval) the main protagonist had to be some kind of a knight. I really want to see a protagonist who is a wizard and has other warriors as his/her sidekick friend for once ^_^. Anime like Fairy Tail and Negima doesn't count coz that's based on a world of wizards.
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2011-08-23, 15:15 | Link #290 | |
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2011-08-23, 15:24 | Link #291 |
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Oh, hell yeah, how can I forget that?! Maybe coz it's such a funny show that I don't consider it seriously ^_^. What I'm looking for is something a bit serious than that.
Anyway, seen the latest Slayers and it's great!
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2011-09-02, 22:23 | Link #293 | |
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I just watched Unlimited Blade Works, and it was even more extreme. Caster demonstrated no likeability at all for much of her screentime, and when she dies she suddenly gets all doe-eyed and teary and stares at Saichourou before disappearing. It didn't quite have the same sympathetic effect as it did in F/SN, though. |
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2011-09-07, 02:18 | Link #294 |
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I have to bring this episode up again because I'm watching this series with a friend in his preparation for Fate/Zero.
How unbelievably fucking terrible was this? I mean what did DEEN do here? I know they had a low budget but a monkey could do the same job at imagining a story like this. It made absolutely no fucking sense whether you're new to the Fate/Stay Night universe or a VN player. It was an absolute monstrosity of a mash up between fake HF elements, UBW elements, and ugh.... DEEN writing their own stories should be forbidden. I mean what the fuck. How can a series that was relatively OK in its adaption go from OK to such shit? None of the character actions were making any sense, and it just removed all sense of awe from mr.golden armor's entrance into the scene. I'm completely flabbergasted even after all these years. I am angry. DEEN, the worst studio in the anime industry hands down. Can't even adapt a good source material properly. At least they hired Kenji Kawaii.
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2011-09-07, 02:20 | Link #295 |
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This was umm... not a very high point for the anime.
I mean holy fuck, who thought this part made any fucking sense? The only thing I can remember is that they put Sakura in a stupid outfit. Sure she has big boobs, but umm, storytelling you shits! Gilgamesh is a cool guy and had a cool entrance, but it doesn't make this episode look any better.
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2011-09-07, 13:38 | Link #296 |
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Man this episode wasn't that bad other than the first half which I really had trouble following. The previous one was the worst episode so far though IMO.
The thing that strikes me about the show most is how cheap it looks. It's constantly take me out of the show. At it's absolute best it looks mediocore to tolerable, but all other times it looks really bad. Like it came out in 2001 on a shoestring budget instead of 2006 level bad. Probably the best looking episode of the series that I've seen so far and the show has failed to match since is the episode where Rider first showed up in the forest. That episode actually looked it's age for a change and there was some actual detail to what was on the screen as opposed to the absolute bare minimum that could possibly be drawn to make the characters and settings distinguishable as what they are. |
2011-09-07, 19:01 | Link #297 | |
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Hell, they couldn't even be bothered to fit it into the main story properly. One minute Sakura is near-death and Rin has realised that she cares for her, and the next the whole damn thing is forgotten about entirely so they can get back onto the main plot of the Fate route. Even the epilogue doesn't change, despite the fact that Rin's relationship to Sakura is substantially different here to in the Fate route of the VN. |
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2011-09-07, 19:08 | Link #298 | |
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