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Old 2011-09-06, 22:18   Link #1201
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Just a reminder, but GOD is:
1. Considered an alternate universe, which means that skills used by this version of Yuuno might not be necessarily similar,
2. It's a game, which means it's subjected to gameplay and story segregation - skills can suddenly got depowered or empowered depending on the situation, whether for dramatic cutscenes or game balance (can't exactly have a fighting game where one character can't do damage at all, can they? )

Still, would be nice if Movie A's has Yuuno using GOD skills
I thought of this, but figured it to not be this case--sure, in Battle of Aces, Hayate can go toe-to-toe with her canonically superior friends, but the game also gave the justification of Reinforce teaching her how to use her powers properly, an opportunity that she didn't get in canon. I'm pretty sure Yuuno can fight in a battle and go on the offensive; he just wouldn't be as effective as Nanoha and the canon is too busy focusing on Nanoha and Fate to really depict it.
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Old 2011-09-06, 22:31   Link #1202
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Just a reminder, but GOD is:
1. Considered an alternate universe, which means that skills used by this version of Yuuno might not be necessarily similar,
2. It's a game, which means it's subjected to gameplay and story segregation - skills can suddenly got depowered or empowered depending on the situation, whether for dramatic cutscenes or game balance (can't exactly have a fighting game where one character can't do damage at all, can they? )

Still, would be nice if Movie A's has Yuuno using GOD skills
Yes, this (plus, there's the fact that the "skill" aspect of combat is replaced by the skills and tactical choices of the player). But with respect to #2, yes, that's especially important because it means that players of equal skill will each win roughly 50% of the time due to character balance (yes, of course it never quite works out that way due to practical differences in abilities resulting in character tiers, etc., etc.) when, let's face it, that just isn't so with the characters themselves in-story.

Or, in terms of "most plausible" to "least plausible" uses of the game to compare/extrapolate to canon:

1. Witness spells/powers a character already possesses being used in new ways we haven't seen yet. (Fans and fan-writers always want to try new, creative ways of using various skills in ways that are outside the realm of how we see them actually used, and here we see evidence that there are more uses...)

2. See entirely new skills/abilities that we haven't seen before. (While it might be that they possess these abilities only in the game-timeline for the purposes of game balance, it's not entirely unreasonable to suggest that they might have it in "normal" canon.)

3. Judge the power level of skills and abilities, including secondary factors like range, speed of attack movement, etc. (Virtually worthless, due to the necessary balancing of characters.)
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Old 2011-09-06, 23:45   Link #1203
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Just a reminder, but GOD is:
1. Considered an alternate universe, which means that skills used by this version of Yuuno might not be necessarily similar
I don't buy this for a second.

Yuuno has more than enough spells, which have more than enough applications, for him to have a robust and effective move-set.

It's just that he hasn't gotten much of a chance to show it off, just as Shamal didn't get a chance to show off her wind spells (until StrikerS, apparently.)


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Still, would be nice if Movie A's has Yuuno using GOD skills
Yes, indeed. Especially after GOD shows us a few new things that Yuuno can do, AND at least one new spell on top of that.
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Old 2011-09-06, 23:53   Link #1204
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Hopefully Yuuno doesn't get shafted as much as he did in A's proper--which is very unlikely, seeing how The Movie 2nd will have to cover even more ground than The Movie 1st did.
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Old 2011-09-07, 00:03   Link #1205
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Yes, indeed. Especially after GOD shows us a few new things that Yuuno can do, AND at least one new spell on top of that.
I don't suppose we can just... you know... forget there's a character like that
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Old 2011-09-07, 00:16   Link #1206
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Yeah we don't really tolerate character bashing here. Just a head's up.
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Old 2011-09-07, 00:34   Link #1207
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Not the best of reasons to not read something, admittedly. No one likes boring invincible heroes.
*raises hand*

Well, i like interesting invincible heroes(which Signum seems to be until she ...you know, stopped being invincible xDU), Lordgenome and Adam Blade are also examples of utterly invincible men who are awesomely cool anyway.
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Old 2011-09-07, 00:39   Link #1208
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No idea who Adam Blade is, but Lordgenome doesn't qualify as an invincible hero. Of the two instances we see him in combat (not counting the music video), he got killed in combat. Also he wasn't a hero in the first fight.

Signum was also not an invincible hero. She was fallible, took damage and wasn't curbstomping her opponent in every match (she could've, but didn't). Her being an invincible hero is just your bi-polarity about her acting up again.
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Old 2011-09-07, 00:45   Link #1209
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Signum was also not an invincible hero. She was fallible, took damage and wasn't curbstomping her opponent in every match (she could've, but didn't). Her being an invincible hero is just your bi-polarity about her acting up again.
Overly-effective Hero then?

...also Lordgenome got only defeated by mere chance, he was completely dominating the fight.
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Old 2011-09-07, 00:54   Link #1210
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Hey, hey, hey. This is about A's when Signum's all cool and stuff. Keep the hating out of this thread.
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Old 2011-09-07, 01:01   Link #1211
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Sorry Archon, you're right, this are the good times xD

Never going to forget how she enters the TSAB's barrier descending in a powerful pink lightning that shatered the ground behind her feet and made both parties involved to stop for a moment and look at her in awe while she raises in an imposing knight stance.

I feel good *-*
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Old 2011-09-07, 01:01   Link #1212
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...also Lordgenome got only defeated by mere chance, he was completely dominating the fight.
Gurren Lagann gave as well as it got, so the fight was even between that and the Lazengann, and it still ended with Lordgenome dead. So he's about as good an example of an "invincible hero" as Signum is. That is, a lousy one.

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Hey, hey, hey. This is about A's when Signum's all cool and stuff. Keep the hating out of this thread.
Only way you'll do that is by keeping Aki out of it entirely.
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Only way you'll do that is by keeping Aki out of it entirely.
Sorry guys but umm...

so where is Raising Heart again?
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Old 2011-09-07, 07:28   Link #1214
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Sorry guys but umm...

so where is Raising Heart again?
I don't know what you're talking about. Now, I know where Raging Heart is, but I don't know what all this Raising Heart nonsense is.

I'm sticking to Raging Heart no matter what anyone else says. ;_;
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Old 2011-09-07, 09:34   Link #1215
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QUOTE=Rising Dragon;3757667]No idea who Adam Blade is, but Lordgenome doesn't qualify as an invincible hero. Of the two instances we see him in combat (not counting the music video), he got killed in combat. Also he wasn't a hero in the first fight.QUOTE]


Adam Blade -> Needless
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