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Old 2011-09-17, 09:29   Link #2041
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Could you please show me where did it say in the title *GSD FAILED FINANCIALLY*? coz i cant see it...
If a movie cost 300 million to make, was a critical hit but only sold 50 million worth of tickets than it's called a failure. GSD is far from a failure, it's the 3rd best selling tv since Evangelion.

Better titles for this thread would be....

Why is GSD so mediocre, Why did GSD not live up to its potential and lastly, Why is GSD Crap? The quality of the show is subjective but as an animation project it was a massive success in doing what it was meant to do.. sell a fuckton.
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Old 2011-09-17, 09:40   Link #2042
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Just playing Gundam Musou and ACE.

GSD is really-- let's says
The only Gundam series that having bad development in it's own series.
When it comes to make appearance in the outer series ( in Gundam Musou 2 and ACE for ex: )
It comes to be more well-developed rather than the anime. Even Shinn got better development there.

I guess the problem really comes from the story-writings ^^;
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Old 2011-09-17, 19:07   Link #2043
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If a movie cost 300 million to make, was a critical hit but only sold 50 million worth of tickets than it's called a failure. GSD is far from a failure, it's the 3rd best selling tv since Evangelion.

Better titles for this thread would be....

Why is GSD so mediocre, Why did GSD not live up to its potential and lastly, Why is GSD Crap? The quality of the show is subjective but as an animation project it was a massive success in doing what it was meant to do.. sell a fuckton.
You missed my point... i wasn't suggesting GSD failed financially, in fact i even said it didn't, Given the FACT when this thread was released GSD is already climbing to a financial success. So arguing GSD FAILED on the financial aspect is pure idiocy. Posters who dislikes the show are already aware of GSD financial success. So now logically what is left after you remove the financial status you have posters given their own personal take why they think GSD failed... like expectations etc
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Old 2011-09-17, 20:33   Link #2044
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why they think GSD failed... like expectations etc
It really depends.

Were audiences really craving, hoping, wishing for a good, developed Shinn?

Or were they very happy Kira kicking arse and Kira x Lacus moments?

While the writing was substandard at worst, it nonetheless gave many fans what they wanted to see. Personally, I never thought the topic was a well-worded question.

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Old 2011-09-17, 21:02   Link #2045
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Ill do agree its not a best worded topic... I always preferred shin over kira but tbh i never liked both of them compared to other mecha shows i do watch. But it isn't just the characters i had issues with but most of my reasons has already been expressed in the first two pages of this thread by other posters.

But given the flow of this thread from the start, financial reasons wasn't the heart of the matter, but it seems lots of fanboy/girl defenders wants to use the *Its a financial success* as the debunk response to why it didn't fail when almost anyone can agree (including haters) that GSD is successful financially, but yet failed to understand this thread creation purpose even if it is badly worded.
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Old 2011-09-17, 21:55   Link #2046
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It's kinda amusing that you guys can't even agree on an appropriate rename for the thread.
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Old 2011-09-17, 22:10   Link #2047
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How about "Why do you think GSD failed?"

Something that isn't too one-sided.
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Old 2011-09-17, 22:26   Link #2048
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No one has disagreed on a rename of this thread... posters are agreeing the current name isn't appropriate.
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Old 2011-09-18, 01:38   Link #2049
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Who gave me a bad rep wor what I said ?

And yes this title is wrong. GSD sold really well which means than some people really like it which also mean he didn't fail for them. "So what caused GSD to fail" is a troll because it means that everyone think this show failed. And it's not the case.
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Old 2011-09-18, 01:44   Link #2050
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Too many Shinn..... they should put Kira in main character position for the whole episode...
I'm quite confused since Shinn is the main focus in first half and Shinn become the enemy in second half...
and also... Athrun is dumb in GSD (well, he's dumb in Gundam SEED but why should he kept repeating same mistakes)
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Old 2011-09-18, 01:50   Link #2051
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and also... Athrun is dumb in GSD (well, he's dumb in Gundam SEED but why should he kept repeating same mistakes)
Maybe, he's just dumb ?
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Old 2011-09-18, 02:07   Link #2052
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Too many Shinn..... they should put Kira in main character position for the whole episode...
I'm quite confused since Shinn is the main focus in first half and Shinn become the enemy in second half...
Throughout the series, Triple H Athrun had the most screentime, making him the de facto main character.

Problem was, and I already mentioned it dozens of times, was that CM Punk Shinn wasn't getting over as WWE Sunrise hoped, and John Cena Kira was still over w/ the WWE Universe Japanese audience.
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Old 2011-09-18, 02:19   Link #2053
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Maybe, he's just dumb ?
I think the word you're looking for is wishy-washy.

What was the name for the movie again? Truth?
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Old 2011-09-19, 04:57   Link #2054
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"So what caused GSD to fail" is a troll because it means that everyone think this show failed. And it's not the case.
Thread title has been changed and hopefully, it will reflex the true nature of this topic.
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Old 2011-09-19, 05:10   Link #2055
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Thread title has been changed and hopefully, it will reflex the true nature of this topic.
A bad title, but good for a gravestone (it could finally RIP, couldn't it?)

The old title is much better.
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Old 2011-09-19, 07:39   Link #2056
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Maybe, he's just dumb ?
thought about that too..

Athrun is ALWAYS impatient. that's his major flaw. He wanted to do something about ending the war quickly that he eventually made a lot of mistakes

really, his return to ZAFT was the dumbest thing.
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Old 2011-09-19, 12:48   Link #2057
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thought about that too..
Athrun is ALWAYS impatient. that's his major flaw. He wanted to do something about ending the war quickly that he eventually made a lot of mistakes
really, his return to ZAFT was the dumbest thing.
Dumb or not, Athrun was a PLANT citizen for most of his life, and I guess he might want
to go back some times.
It was a very attractive offer from Durandal to clear his name, by serving the country a few years more.
Better than all the legal troubles Athrun would take every time he enter the colonies through the front door.
(WELL, these words are too light. Athrun was being suspected of treason....)

OTOH, I am afraid I don't agree that Athrun is impatient.
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Old 2011-09-19, 19:12   Link #2058
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Shinn seiyuu didn't get along well with Fukuda wife and Morosawa.

Fukuda gets a hate mail from the Kira fans after ep. 34. Thats is why Shinn reputation have sabotage to please the Kira fans.

Morisawa announce of her illness condition (brain cancer?). I wonder if this true?

After years past this unfair saboteurs reveals and spread to a growing numbers of enraged Shinn supporters.

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Old 2011-09-19, 23:18   Link #2059
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fuck i just want my movie
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Old 2011-09-20, 00:19   Link #2060
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Shinn seiyuu didn't get along well with Fukuda wife and Morosawa.

Fukuda gets a hate mail from the Kira fans after ep. 34. Thats is why Shinn reputation have sabotage to please the Kira fans.

Morisawa announce of her illness condition (brain cancer?). I wonder if this true?

After years past this unfair saboteurs reveals and spread to a growing numbers of enraged Shinn supporters.
This is why it failed then.

the people in charge of it let radical fans dictate how the series would play out. What we ended up getting was a story line ripped right out of a kira fanboy fan fiction.
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