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Old 2011-10-10, 11:07   Link #1061
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Whoa whoa whoa dude even I have to say you're over reacting at least rent it. I'm sure with or without the multiplayer it'll still be fun in it's own way.
Rent? I have better use for my gaming time than playing a rented game. As I say, I am not the type to make a fuss about a game then buys it anyway. I will go play something else.

All I wanted was to help the Geth and Quarians set up a peace deal, and build Tali a house in her homeland. I am not interested in the combat, and definitely not caring about multiplayer. But if the shooting aspect gets expand again, I would have been paying full price for even less of the game I wanted to play.
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Your choice to be pissed, your right to be pissed, if you so decide. I just live under the assumption that there are so many other problematic things happening in this world of so much more importance that wasting my time being angry that video game X didn't be what I wanted to be seem to pale in comparison. Been there, done that, wasted my time.

I understand you're angry things didn't going your way, but is it really such a huge thing that it makes such a huge fuss?

It's just a game.
"So Many other problematic things" exist, yes. That's why I play games, to give me something to relax in. Thus, it is important to me. Just as other people care about their favourite music genres or favourite opera. If games are unimportant, why give it it's own section in animesuki at all?
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Old 2011-10-10, 11:10   Link #1062
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Rent? I have better use for my gaming time than playing a rented game. As I say, I am not the type to make a fuss about a game then buys it anyway. I will go play something else.

All I wanted was to help the Geth and Quarians set up a peace deal, and build Tali a house in her homeland. I am not interested in the combat, and definitely not caring about multiplayer. But if the shooting aspect gets expand again, I would have been paying full price for even less of the game I wanted to play.
.......Dude I'm sure you can still do what you mentioned in the campaign. You can totally ignore the multiplayer if you wish like I'm going to. If you truly enjoyed the previous Mass Effect games why should you let the inclusion of multiplayer piss you off to the point that you won't even play it as a rental?

Hell I'm extremely disappointed by this news, but I'm not gonna let it stop me from enjoying the parts of the game I actually DO enjoy and I'm gonna still buy because I have and enjoyed the previous games in the series.
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Old 2011-10-10, 11:30   Link #1063
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.......Dude I'm sure you can still do what you mentioned in the campaign. You can totally ignore the multiplayer if you wish like I'm going to. If you truly enjoyed the previous Mass Effect games why should you let the inclusion of multiplayer piss you off to the point that you won't even play it as a rental?

Hell I'm extremely disappointed by this news, but I'm not gonna let it stop me from enjoying the parts of the game I actually DO enjoy and I'm gonna still buy because I have and enjoyed the previous games in the series.
I won't play it as a rental because it isn't fun.

You know that I played ME2 entirely as an adept, and that I never fired a bullet?

And that I stocked up on the nuke launcher ammo so I can kill the last boss in two shots, because biotic was useless against it and I have no intention of playing a shooter?

I had to plan the entire ME2 from the wiki, in order to shorten the shooting aspects of the game as much as possible. That's how much I hated those parts.
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Old 2011-10-10, 11:43   Link #1064
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I won't play it as a rental because it isn't fun.

You know that I played ME2 entirely as an adept, and that I never fired a bullet?

And that I stocked up on the nuke launcher ammo so I can kill the last boss in two shots, because biotic was useless against it and I have no intention of playing a shooter?

I had to plan the entire ME2 from the wiki, in order to shorten the shooting aspects of the game as much as possible. That's how much I hated those parts.
Well in that case you probably shouldn't be playing in the first place since you know Mass Effect is a shooter rpg, with the main combat gameplay being based on shooting. Its like watching a romance comedy and complain that you hate the romance, its in the genre so if you bought it thats completely your fault.

They didn't lie to you or give you false promises, they said shooter rpg and thats what you get.

I don't see the problem to be honest, inventory and skill trees have been reworked, customization is still there and the story has been planned for quite some time now so...I doubt the multiplayer is going to completely ruin how many years worth of work.
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Old 2011-10-10, 13:34   Link #1065
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Well in that case you probably shouldn't be playing in the first place since you know Mass Effect is a shooter rpg, with the main combat gameplay being based on shooting. Its like watching a romance comedy and complain that you hate the romance, its in the genre so if you bought it thats completely your fault.

They didn't lie to you or give you false promises, they said shooter rpg and thats what you get.

I don't see the problem to be honest, inventory and skill trees have been reworked, customization is still there and the story has been planned for quite some time now so...I doubt the multiplayer is going to completely ruin how many years worth of work.
I buy ME for the RPG. I will believe ME3 had more RPG when I see it. All that the multiplayer announcement does is to damage that trust. I don't know what they have been spending years working on, so until I hear what the hell is going on with this news they spring on us, call me a pessimist.
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Old 2011-10-10, 14:21   Link #1066
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I won't play it as a rental because it isn't fun.

You know that I played ME2 entirely as an adept, and that I never fired a bullet?

And that I stocked up on the nuke launcher ammo so I can kill the last boss in two shots, because biotic was useless against it and I have no intention of playing a shooter?

I had to plan the entire ME2 from the wiki, in order to shorten the shooting aspects of the game as much as possible. That's how much I hated those parts.
I'm amazed you even bothered to play the game, if you hated half of its gameplay/content.

...or study its Wiki.
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Old 2011-10-10, 14:33   Link #1067
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Also, a recent tweet from Casey Hudson states it's Co-op. If it's only that I'm not sure, but it seems like it.

https://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/...65882281320449

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Old 2011-10-10, 14:47   Link #1068
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The way that's worded it sounds like they've got specific non-singleplayer maps for this mode? Well it's twitter so I wont assume anything but my biggest fear was this being turned into another FEAR 3...or COD.
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Old 2011-10-10, 15:00   Link #1069
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I'm amazed you even bothered to play the game, if you hated half of its gameplay/content.

...or study its Wiki.
I liked the RPG part. You know, the part the shooter gamers ignore or fast forward through.

And I wanted the plot to go the way I wanted. ME2 had an unintuitive system of choices to get what I wanted. Role Play was next to impossible if I want loyalty from everyone.

It was a chore. And there was two points in the game when I stopped playing for days out of frustration. But I wanted the story.

Let's just say I was happy to play ME1 several times, but I am not touching ME2 again now that I finished it.
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Old 2011-10-10, 15:37   Link #1070
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Old 2011-10-10, 15:45   Link #1071
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Old 2011-10-10, 15:47   Link #1072
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Let's just say I was happy to play ME1 several times, but I am not touching ME2 again now that I finished it.
It might be best to simply wait for the novelization of ME3 since I strongly suspect the shooter aspects to be upped and the RPG elements to be even more streamlined.

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Old 2011-10-10, 16:35   Link #1073
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It might be best to simply wait for the novelization of ME3 since I strongly suspect the shooter aspects to be upped and the RPG elements to be even more streamlined.
Or do what I did before I ever knew about Mass effect; watch game videos on youtube.
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Old 2011-10-10, 17:44   Link #1074
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Or do what I did before I ever knew about Mass effect; watch game videos on youtube.
LOL, that reminds me when Animesuki provided torrents for all the videos from the game Xenosaga (not the anime, the actual game video). I never got around to playing the games, but I did enjoy the videos .
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Old 2011-10-10, 18:07   Link #1075
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Old 2011-10-10, 20:22   Link #1076
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Old 2011-10-10, 21:00   Link #1077
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Well it's reassuring to hear some of that, I just hope it works well in practice.
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Old 2011-10-10, 21:12   Link #1078
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Old 2011-10-10, 21:53   Link #1079
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Today BioWare and the Mass Effect 3 team are very pleased to announce 4 player co-op multiplayer missions and the Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War system for Mass Effect 3 on the PC, Xbox 360 and Playstation 3.


4 player co-op multiplayer

Join your friends in the all-out galactic war to take Earth back. The universe of Mass Effect expands with the addition of new co-op multiplayer missions, playable over Xbox Live, PSN and PC internet. Players can choose from a variety of classes and races, form an elite Special Forces squad, and combine their weapons, powers and abilities to devastating effect as they fight together to liberate key territories from enemy control. Success in multi-player will have a direct impact on the outcome of the single player campaign, giving players an alternative method of achieving ultimate victory against the greatest threat mankind – and the entire galaxy – has ever faced.

Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War

As a bonus to the campaign, BioWare is introducing the Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War system, a new way for players to manage and experience the galactic war from multiple fronts, including a new 4-player co-op mode. The key to saving the galaxy is the “Galactic Readiness” level, measured by Commander Shepard’s ability to apply
every possible asset – people, weapons, resources, armies, fleets – in the final battle against the Reapers. Players can impact their game’s Galactic Readiness level in multiple ways via the Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War system, including multiplayer. Other platforms and interfaces will be announced in the coming months. It is important to note that the system is entirely optional and just another way players can have control over your game experience – it is still possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 3 through single-player alone.


F.A.Q.

Why include 4 player Co-op multiplayer in Mass Effect 3?
Being able to explore and fight alongside your friends in the Mass Effect universe has always been something we thought would be fun and compelling, and many players have asked for it for a long time as well. Mass Effect 3 is the best place for us to introduce multiplayer through co-op because of the premise of the game – all out galactic war.


Why only 4 player co-op? What not a versus mode?
We have always maintained that we would only add multiplayer into the Mass Effect series if it made sense and did not compromise the power of the single player campaign. Fighting together against a common threat was the multiplayer experience that made the most sense for Mass Effect 3. The way we have designed co-op as a wayto take control of key conflict zones in the galaxy is a natural extension of the premise of Mass Effect 3.


Why did you decide not to include it as a part of the main campaign?
Our priority and focus with Mass Effect 3 has and always will be to deliver a complete and satisfying single player experience.


Does the addition of co-op multiplayer missions impact the scope or quality of the single-player experience?
No. A dedicated team from our recently formed BioWare Montreal studio has been focused on creating the multiplayer game features while the main game continued to be developed by the team in BioWare Edmonton. Both teams are integrated under the same leadership group that produced Mass Effect 1 and 2, led by Casey Hudson. BioWare remains dedicated to delivering one of the most amazing single-player campaigns gamers have ever experienced.


How did developing multiplayer impact the single player game?
BioWare is dedicated and focused on delivering an engaging, fun, and action-packed experience for Mass Effect 3, one that lives up the BioWare standard. To reach that level of quality, last year BioWare opened a studio in Montreal that is home to designers, programmers, engineers, and other developers. Both studios work together as partners, lead by the core Mass Effect team, unified in a single vision. Under the direction of Casey Hudson and other team veterans, both studios make contributions to both the single player and multiplayer modes in Mass Effect 3. Rest assured that no compromises were made to either of these modes in the development of Mass Effect 3.


Which characters can I play in co-op multiplayer? Can I play as Commander Shepard?
Commander Shepard’s part in the war will take place in the single-player campaign, as will that of other beloved characters in the franchise such as Garrus, Ashley, and Liara…these characters do not appear in the multiplayer missions. In multiplayer, players will create custom characters to fight on different and unique fronts in the war. This will include the ability to play as favorites like Turians, Krogans, Asari and more… each with their own unique set of abilities.


What if I don’t like multiplayer – will my experience be negatively impacted?
Mass Effect 3 is a complete, standalone game that will deliver a satisfying story experience, even if you choose not to try multiplayer. The Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War system and all of the individual components are meant to complement that amazing game and can be enjoyed on their own or as part of the Galaxy at War experience.


What if I am not good at / do not like multiplayer? Will my readiness rating go down?
ME3 is a story about a war against overwhelming force where the most you can hope for us survival. The more you do to fight that war, the more you can change that story into a more optimistic one. You can reach the highest levels of success in the single player experience alone, but Galaxy at War gives you alternative ways to get there. It’s about choice, and allowing players to find their own ways to stay immersed in the Mass Effect universe.


Will you be adding any additional maps or modes through DLC?
We can’t comment on specifics right now, but can confirm that we are planning on having DLC for Mass Effect 3.

Do save games from ME1 or ME2 impact the co-op multiplayer missions?
No.


Do characters level up in co-op multiplayer? What is the progression system?
Character progression, weapon upgrading and leveling up is present in co-op. We’ll release more information on this topic in the months leading up to launch.


Is there more info about the other platforms of Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War?
We are not going into details about the other components of the Galaxy at War at this time except to say we are designing each to make sense for that platform. Each component will be able to affect a player’s “Galactic Readiness” level in a different way. Again, participation in any or all ME3:GaW elements is entirely optional.
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Old 2011-10-11, 02:26   Link #1080
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I am oddly enough more excited for this now. Not that I have people to play with, but it just sounds so fun. And I'm quite relieved they didn't include Shepard in the multiplayer and made it a custom experience instead.
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