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Old 2011-09-30, 10:12   Link #81
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Old 2011-09-30, 12:15   Link #82
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I use the RSS feed with my torrent client, KTorrent, but the client wasn't running when I booted up this time.
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Old 2011-10-01, 04:54   Link #83
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What does it say about AS that I had to learn episode seven was subbed from ANN?
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Old 2011-10-01, 07:59   Link #84
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. There are no listings of this show on the main AS page because NHK requested they be removed. If anything this argues in favor of the declining relevance of the main page if even a show which will likely never be licensed in R1 still can't be listed on the main site.
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Old 2011-10-11, 18:19   Link #85
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OK, I'll have to watch episode eight again. I wish Kaoru Chujo was following this series so he might make one of his excellent guides to the characters and their seiyuu. As it is, I remain confused about who's who.

Hilarious scene with Sasuke and the pineapple, and no word about whether he ever told Osen about his encounter in the tower in episode six. If he did tell her, she obviously forgave him given the present she gave him. (I expected her to give him another "present" after chasing out the children, but then she disappeared?) Apparently their child inherited her eyes!

Why did the fellow with the scroll burn it?
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Old 2011-10-11, 21:26   Link #86
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OK, I'll have to watch episode eight again. I wish Kaoru Chujo was following this series so he might make one of his excellent guides to the characters and their seiyuu. As it is, I remain confused about who's who.

Hilarious scene with Sasuke and the pineapple, and no word about whether he ever told Osen about his encounter in the tower in episode six. If he did tell her, she obviously forgave him given the present she gave him. (I expected her to give him another "present" after chasing out the children, but then she disappeared?) Apparently their child inherited her eyes!

Why did the fellow with the scroll burn it?
No way Sosuke told Osen!

The fellow with the scroll was Akechi Mitsuhide, the top general who
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Old 2011-11-15, 10:59   Link #87
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Episode nine has appeared in the usual location!

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Old 2011-11-16, 17:21   Link #88
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Crikey!

I was amused at the elephant, though.

I have to admit with the time between episodes I'm not following the plot as much as I could. I'm gathering this show as and when, in the hope that at some time the glorious day will come when all episodes are safely gathered in and I can rewatch the whole lot. That will be a glorious day indeed!
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:49   Link #89
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Damn, that was exciting. It was interesting to see such a radical departure from the historical record - I wasn't sure just how much this story would stick to the script.

I expect Hideyoshi to pin this on Akechi, and Sasuke to eventually ally himself with him. His brother does indeed complicate that, though. I'd love to see Sasuke and Oshiro from Ben-To have a conversation - they're the two best human sound-effects machines in anime right now.
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Old 2011-11-28, 11:32   Link #90
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Episode 10 in the usual places, and it's time for the aftermath. Quite a surreal and symbolic aftermath, too, but a gripping sequence.
Looking forward to seeing where we go from here.
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Old 2011-11-28, 11:53   Link #91
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Episode 10 in the usual places, and it's time for the aftermath. Quite a surreal and symbolic aftermath, too, but a gripping sequence.
These last two episodes make clear why there's the "this is a work of fiction" disclaimer at the beginning!
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Old 2011-12-03, 01:41   Link #92
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These last two episodes make clear why there's the "this is a work of fiction" disclaimer at the beginning!
Yeah, but what an allegorical one.

That opening scene with Oda and Hideyoshi was a stunner. One of the most memorable scenes in anime for many a year. Was that really happening, or an expression of Hideyoshi's subconscious?
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Old 2011-12-03, 08:55   Link #93
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Yeah, but what an allegorical one.

That opening scene with Oda and Hideyoshi was a stunner. One of the most memorable scenes in anime for many a year. Was that really happening, or an expression of Hideyoshi's subconscious?
With you on that, it was a fantastic scene.

My impression is that it was all in Hideyoshi's head, an attack of conscience perhaps for what he had just done, the cup filled with Oda's blood and tea... All very symbolic.
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Old 2012-01-12, 01:32   Link #94
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Old 2012-01-12, 17:02   Link #95
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Marvellous, all the players working out who to ally themselves with now Oda is out of the way.

New OP music (same visuals), not entirely sure it's an improvement but at least it doesn't remind me of Copacabana every time it starts.

When episode 12 comes along I think that'll be a good time to sit and watch a dozen episodes in one go!
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Old 2012-03-19, 04:29   Link #96
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Huzzah! A wild episode 12 appears! I'd just about given up on this one.
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Huzzah! A wild episode 12 appears! I'd just about given up on this one.
Yes indeed ... nice to see there are others following this series which deserves WAY more love than it gets imo....
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Old 2012-03-21, 21:18   Link #98
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I'm curious whether those banners are historically accurate.

I knew right away that Sasuke's brother was going to show him an image of the "Sacred Heart of Jesus." In my Catholic youth I attended a school named Sacred Heart. I'm dubious whether Hashiba will make good on his pledge to assist in proselytizing, though.

I'm still often lost trying to keep track of the enormous cast of characters in this show. I haven't had this much trouble since I first started watching Baccano!. In that case, though, we had both men and women, and the characters had pretty distinctive models. In Hyouge Mono, we just have men, and many of them have only rather subtle differences in appearance. Some day, if I have the ambition, I'll try to pull together a web page identifying the characters, rather like what Kaoru Chujo did for shows like Saiunkoku Monogatari.

I've also considered trying to edit the English in the subs. I appreciate the subbers desire to preserve the archaic styles of speech in the English versions, but some of the subtitles have glaring grammatical errors or lack clarity. Again, I don't know when I'll get to this, but if I do start this project, I could probably use some help. Someone who is fluent in both Chinese and English might be able to help by comparing Huzzah's subs to the Chinese ones in the Koei release.

The new OP seems almost a satire on what Westerners think Japanese music sounds like. I doubt that's the intention, but that's the impression I'm left with after hearing it a few times now.
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Old 2012-03-21, 21:21   Link #99
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....Some day, if I have the ambition, I'll try to pull together a web page identifying the characters, rather like what Kaoru Chujo did for shows like Saiunkoku Monogatari.

I've also considered trying to edit the English in the subs. I appreciate the subbers desire to preserve the archaic styles of speech in the English versions, but some of the subtitles have glaring grammatical errors or lack clarity. Again, I don't know when I'll get to this, but if I do start this project, I could probably use some help. Someone who is fluent in both Chinese and English might be able to help by comparing Huzzah's subs to the Chinese ones in the Koei release.
Whoa. Both of these sound like pretty large tasks!

Best of luck to you - I know I couldn't do either of them....
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Old 2012-03-21, 21:27   Link #100
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Whoa. Both of these sound like pretty large tasks!

Best of luck to you - I know I couldn't do either of them....
Well, editing the subs just requires pulling them out of the Matroska container, editing the texts, and remuxing them back in. There's a suite of programs called mkvtoolnix designed precisely for tasks like this.

Creating the page of character avatars would require rather more work -- grabbing screen shots, cropping and the like. I've made my share of avatars over the past few years so I'm pretty adept at such tasks, but it would take quite a while to identify this cast of thousands.
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