Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon - Light Novel Discussion

[Allen]

Originally Posted by hayate-sama

More specific about this please

Spoiler for Horizon:

How much emotions Horizon have regained ?

It seem like some girl have special clothes for battle like Neit, Kimi, Asama and the magi gunners , does everybody have that ?

Spoiler:

Horizon has just regained two emotions until the third volume. One in the end of the first volume and other one in the end of the second volume (greed, I think).

No, just they have special clothes... I think.

Originally Posted by hayate-sama

Another question

Spoiler for Futayo:

what is the joke that Futayo use that have s*x and how does she found out the meaning of it

Spoiler for s*x de gozaru:

This joke involves Azuma and Futayo. For Futayo: She thinks that the meaning of s*x is something like fight/train. So, we have scenes like:

"Ah, I made s*x with him ~de gozaru." or

"Lately myself, Muneshige and Gin are having s*x together ~de gozaru". = 3P KAYO!?

Originally Posted by Bonta Kun

Noob question but I spied the name Mary pop up a few times here and who she gets involved with, but I have no idea who it is.
Can anyone enlighten me on the matter, trying to get remember whos who for this series is proving a challenge which is a first for me.

But thats I think it's a good charm of the series, the sheer number of characters is great fun.

This Mary. And about other characters I can do something later. stuopidget already posted about Masazumi, her father, Masanobu, Toori on the anime thread, so you can get some info there too.

Originally Posted by endarion88

@allen will you do a summary of vol 2 and 3 also when you have time?

I'll try, but who knows when I'll do it

[hayate-sama]

With this much character in a series, I bet you guide have to go back and check the character list at the beginning of the volume several time while reading it.

[Allen]

Originally Posted by hayate-sama

With this much character in a series, I bet you guide have to go back and check the character list at the beginning of the volume several time while reading it.

Hahaha, I did that a lot, specially in the first parts of each volume.

[kuroishinigami]

Originally Posted by stuopidget

You should read it (ditch IS, translate this instead )!!!

They cut out a lot of funny stuff in the anime!! Seems like a lot of light novel fans are mad at episode 2 for "not faithful", but the episode got better reception from anime fans (vice versa for episode 1).

I'm no longer translating IS since it's almost fully translated by our flash translator(Teh_Ping) . Trying to help finish Baka to Test now, but my free time is getting smaller since I got dumped with loads of work at office .

I really want to read this one(and Rental Magica too), but sadly I really don't have the time to read that much nowadays(can't even catch up with Kami-memo and finish Dantalian )

How about you and Allen translate this series so I can read it faster in English(English reading speed is 3 times faster than Japanese right now )?

[larethian]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

I'm no longer translating IS since it's almost fully translated by our flash translator(Teh_Ping) . Trying to help finish Baka to Test now, but my free time is getting smaller since I got dumped with loads of work at office .

I really want to read this one(and Rental Magica too), but sadly I really don't have the time to read that much nowadays(can't even catch up with Kami-memo and finish Dantalian )

How about you and Allen translate this series so I can read it faster in English(English reading speed is 3 times faster than Japanese right now )?

2525, 2828, wwwwww! I have to laugh hard at the "hissatsu! honyaku-kaeshi!". wwwwww!

[Kunagisa]

Originally Posted by larethian

2525, 2828, wwwwww! I have to laugh hard at the "hissatsu! honyaku-kaeshi!". wwwwww!

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First one's only 1300ish pages total!!!

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by stuopidget

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First one's only 1300ish pages total!!!

...I used to remember a time when 'only' doesn't apply to a 4 digit figure

[black_cat1]

Originally Posted by Allen

If you really want to know:

Spoiler:

Kimi-nee is a brocon;
Asama doesn't know if she LOVES or LIKES Toori. But it's kind of obvious that she loves him;
Neito is another one that have a crush on him;
Suzu is the last one that have feelings for him. *Episode 6 will show this very well

BUT, Toori has already chosen a girl (Horizon) and because of that they all support that decision. Even if there are some events that shows teases envolving them and Toori.

Spoiler:

What happened made Yoshitsune think as a normal person again. She was kind of a person "outside" from that age and in the end she was "inside" that age again. It's kind of difficult to explain this without showing her inner thoughts, but that's it.

It's better if you ask something more specific about her. You know, I could easily spend hours writing about that miko

Spoiler for Some details:

Hassan: I don't know if it'll be explained in the future volumes, but his ability involves curry. Besides that there wasn't anything that made him show his "true?" ability. But in the third volume he destroyed a "ghost ship" using curry. How? That's one thing that I really want to know

Persona-kun: He will probably have a development later (I really hope for this). He almost doesn't appear, so it's difficult to say what are his abilities. But, there is a suspicion that he is Mouri Motokiyo, a very important person in the Mouri clan which is associated to the Hexagone Française, one of the most strongest Harmonic Divine States.

Ginji/Kenji/Nenji: They are "normal" students. I don't think that they have some kind of special ability...

Shirojiro: His ability involves buying other people power or contracting other people to fight. Everything involving money is with him.

Poor Ami, first is Kallen and now is Asama, why she is always the second in harem list of Jun(Toori, Lulu)

Allen-sensei, can you explain about the ability of Asama, especially about the offering part and...some memories she had with Toori. Did he grope her boobs?

[Eternal Aselia]

Tell us about Azuma please, Allen.

Does he/she have a key role given his/her lineage, race belonging to a half-god and sealed powers?

[SoFarGone]

Whats with Asama's eyes anyway?

[Zeroblade]

Originally Posted by SoFarGone

Whats with Asama's eyes anyway?

Her left eye is artificial, probably how she was able to use the scope.

[Teh_Ping]

How long is one volume on average?

[Master Assassin]

^ You probably should ask someone else to find out in your stead.

If you ask that yourself then I can't think of any other possibilities other than a surge of expectations for you dear mister.

[kuroishinigami]

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

How long is one volume on average?

On overage? Around 500-600 I think. "Shorter" one is 300-400 pages, longer one is 800-1000 pages.

Originally Posted by larethian

2525, 2828, wwwwww! I have to laugh hard at the "hissatsu! honyaku-kaeshi!". wwwwww!

手伝えよ。ばかーつきの新しい翻訳者募集してるでしょ？結婚後、あんたの代わりになるかもしれないだよ。代 わりの翻訳者はいないなら、リタイアにさせないわよ。ｗｗｗ。

Back to the topic, I'm unlikely going to follow this novel, but with some more push, to aru honyaku-sha might take this up and I'll be able to catch up like Index :P. Although, taking both this and denyuuden might not a good way to motivate yourself to translate :P

[Kusa-San]

Just two questions about Toori and his power :

Spoiler for power:

So, from what I understand, he can access to 1/4 of the fuel of the giant ship ? So what will happen if he dies ?

Futhermore, the Toori from the two first episodes has already this power ? That's why he looks like a drug-addict ?=

[Allen]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

I'm no longer translating IS since it's almost fully translated by our flash translator(Teh_Ping) . Trying to help finish Baka to Test now, but my free time is getting smaller since I got dumped with loads of work at office .

I really want to read this one(and Rental Magica too), but sadly I really don't have the time to read that much nowadays(can't even catch up with Kami-memo and finish Dantalian )

How about you and Allen translate this series so I can read it faster in English(English reading speed is 3 times faster than Japanese right now )?

I'll only do teasers (if I translate something) like the one I did. Well, there seems to be a certain person interested in this series, so

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

How long is one volume on average?

Let's see:
1A - 552, 1B - 776;
2A - 912, 2B - 1160;
3A - 744, 3B - 840, 3C - 904;
4A - 680, 4B - 744;
so the average of pages in each book is 812 pages. That's why I thought that the books from the fourth volume were kind of short

Originally Posted by black_cat1

Poor Ami, first is Kallen and now is Asama, why she is always the second in harem list of Jun(Toori, Lulu)

Allen-sensei, can you explain about the ability of Asama, especially about the offering part and...some memories she had with Toori. Did he grope her boobs?

Spoiler for Asama:

Well, about her ability. Asama has a contract with the Asama temple which allows her to use god's ability. To use those abilities she has to offer some things in exchange (that's why the offering) and use her own "energy". Hanami (that little cute creature that was talking with her) is like a intermediate between her and the god. Using some quotes to explain this a little better:

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

While Tomo prepares her arrow
• 浅間神社, Japanese, Asama Shrine
• From Left
•• 浅間•智様、御利用有り難う御座います。加護の選択をどうぞ, Japanese, "Asama Tomo-sama, thank you for using our services. Please Choose from the available options."
••　浅間神社に接続しました。　修祓•奏上•神楽、にて完遂, Japanese, "Connection to Asama Shrine complete. Purification rites, report to the Emperor and Shinto performances accomplished."
••　接続：浅間神社•走狗：サクヤ型01：―確認, Japanese, "Connected to: Asama Shrine — Selected Tool: Sakuya-Type 01 — Confirmed."

This was when she connected to the "server" of the Asama Temple to use the god's abilities. Btw, this Sakuya Type is refering to Hanami, who is a "mausu" (? still waiting for translations to this term).

Originally Posted by stuopidget

Asama's purification ritual is stronger than implicated. The triple protection in the beginning purge 3 negative effects that can affect her arrows: slow 停滞 (by wind or elements in the air etc.), escape 外逸 (aka gives homing ability), and damage 障害 (can't be cut). It slightly bugs me that fansub groups didn't translate this. Once again +1 TAN.

What Asama did was to purify her arrow to get the effects above. In total there were four effects, so she had to do four offerings and use four "Haiki" (take this as a unit of that "energy").

About some memories between her and Toori... Huh!? There is only one that comes to my mind and I don't remember he groping her boobs!? You know, there are a lot of small details that show her affection to Toori and because of that I don't really remember those events. About the only scene that I remember: It contains other spoilers (about the plot itself), so just read if you really don't care about it,

Spoiler for Nakimushi Asama:

In the fourth volume she remembered the time when she went to sleep in Toori/Kimi-nee's house. It was soon after Horizon died and Toori disappeared for some days. That's why she has a strong impression that if she wakes up there, she won't find Toori again.

Then for some reasons she went to sleep there again (present). She woke up and didn't find Toori in his room. Because of that she was feeling very unease. That's why when she found Toori as usual, she started crying. A very touching scene that shows that Asama really cares about him =3

So now I'm a sensei too

Originally Posted by Eternal Aselia

Tell us about Azuma please, Allen.

Does he/she have a key role given his/her lineage, race belonging to a half-god and sealed powers?

Spoiler for Azuma-kun:

First of all, Azuma is a he. Until the third/start of the fourth volume there wasn't anything big involving him. But in the future he'll surely have a big importance in the plot, not only because he is half-god (and is the son of the "Mikado", which means his presence has a strong political aspect), but because of his love comedy, ops, relationship with Miriam and their kid, ops, with a misterious kid named as ??? in the LN.

Originally Posted by Kusa-San

Just two questions about Toori and his power :

Spoiler for power:

So, from what I understand, he can access to 1/4 of the fuel of the giant ship ? So what will happen if he dies ?

Futhermore, the Toori from the two first episodes has already this power ? That's why he looks like a drug-addict ?=

Spoiler for Toori:

Yes, something like that. If he dies nothing happens to the "energy" of Musashi. He can use it, but it's not his own energy. He uses his ability only to send this "energy" to others when they need.

Nop. He'll gain this power in the episode 11? And he is like that for some reasons. His worship god is a god that likes what he normally does (those jokes, stupid remarks, strips, etc...) and because of that he gains "energy". He uses this energy to do those "bokes" (which makes him have a strong defense against "tsukkomis") and that's why he is alive even after being attacked by the Amazoness and Neito. And this "energy" that he have inside him allows him to use that power too. It's something like that?

Other reason is probably because of the sacrifice he has done in exchange of that power. If he fells sad he'll die, so to prevent that he normally acts in a way in which he won't fell sad? Maybe there is another reason of why he is "broken" like that, but there isn't enough info yet.

[MeisterBabylon]

Sup guys!

Any information on the India faction so far? Anything about the Mughals, or Shah Jahan, or his son?

I'm gathering research material for my own dastardly plans in this universe so I don't mind being spoiled.

[larethian]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

On overage? Around 500-600 I think. "Shorter" one is 300-400 pages, longer one is 800-1000 pages.



手伝えよ。ばかーつきの新しい翻訳者募集してるでしょ？結婚後、あんたの代わりになるかもしれないだよ。代 わりの翻訳者はいないなら、リタイアにさせないわよ。ｗｗｗ。

Back to the topic, I'm unlikely going to follow this novel, but with some more push, to aru honyaku-sha might take this up and I'll be able to catch up like Index :P. Although, taking both this and denyuuden might not a good way to motivate yourself to translate :P

well, anyway, the fact that I have more time now is because she's doing her masters abroad. after that, saa, medetashi medetashi toshite mo teaser wo yaru jikan ga aru kamo.

BOT, I'm actually going to start reading this. I want to stop watching the anime but I can't because of Fukuyama Jun as the protag. Motomeru wa Chou-Kakkee Settei, Horizon!

[Marcus H.]

I think the term Maus (or mouse or the Katakana マウス), written in kanji as 走狗 (hunting dog or another person's tool), probably means "familiar" or literally "computer mouse", as they are needed to interact with the source of power (e.g. Tomo's access with the Asama Shrine).

[Shion_Sanada]

Allen-san, please explain a little thing about these question

Spoiler for :

1. Who is exactly Mitotsudaira`s Mother? I heard a rumor that her name is Reenedega Ruu and her age is kinda same like her daughter, is that true?

2. I saw some loli in the cover of novel. Who are they?

3. What would be happen next after Toori confess to P01-S? I know a big war will be happen after this, but what is exactly trigger those war?

4. Can you give me some spoiler about the character who will be show up so far and how they meet their death?

5. Who is Miriam Polk, and how important she is? I saw she and Azuma meet in a certain room at anime

6. is Azuma definitely a guy?

7. Where is Adelle Balfetto from?

8. What would be happen with Masazumi? Will she survive until the end? It`s kinda sad when I saw her past, and I hope her dream come true become a politician.