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Old 2011-10-22, 17:19   Link #17241
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It says a thousand protesters... It's hard to get a sense of scale. Is that supposed to be a lot? Because over here, it barely qualifies as a school excursion, and we've got a tenth of your population...
Representation in the US, as indicated above, and representation in France are two entirely different things. 1000 in the US is a fiesta. In France, there's no party until explosives are involved.
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Old 2011-10-22, 17:24   Link #17242
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I think it depends on the city involved. Getting 1,000 people to protest a mile above sea level is sort of interesting.

Population of Denver is about 600,000, with Colorado's being about 5 million.
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Old 2011-10-22, 22:10   Link #17243
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Spain, Italy under pressure as EU frames bank deal
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79I0IC20111023
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Old 2011-10-22, 22:57   Link #17244
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It says a thousand protesters... It's hard to get a sense of scale. Is that supposed to be a lot? Because over here, it barely qualifies as a school excursion, and we've got a tenth of your population...
They had 2000 attend last Sunday, and no it's not really that many people.

The Tea-Party had 5000 attend in 2009, but that's still pretty small compared to the total number of people we have out here.

The Denver [com]post is making a big deal out of nothing.
It's the weekend and there are no classes, and Denver isn't exactly a "swinging" town.
A nice protest is something to do, I know I went to one of these OWS meets a few weeks ago.

*sigh*
I miss the Rocky Mountain News.
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Old 2011-10-22, 23:09   Link #17245
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I dunno, seem masturbatory and may be open to racial profiling.

But isn't this happening already in other places, just in a different capacity?

Place like Tennessee should probably be worried more about drug smuggling and meth labs though I'd think.
Agreed.
There is the potential for serious abuse here by an agency with a record that is already tarnished.

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Would AQ know where Tennessee is?

Does the avg American know where Tennessee is?

It's that long one thar on da coost lyne nex ta Kuntuckey.

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Hehe, Stasi 2.0, well at least they use some of the Stasi-tactics. From there it is only a small step to a real Stasi-equivalent.

Oh, hysteria and squealers... in Tennesee your dreams come true.
Stasi seems like a very appropriate way to describe the TSA.
Or the NKVD, considering the article suggests that all motorists need to "report all suspicious activity."

Yeah, half the people on the road can barely change lanes without hitting one another and they're going to "spot" anything?

America is becoming the "home of the meek, land of the slaves" very quickly.

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Troubling is the nicest thing I'd say about it.... more like this will be used for everything BUT any actual terrorism. Waste of money ..... like the above says, money that could have been spent on education, getting rid of meth labs, helping small business, etc.
Agreed.
It's just another in a long line of police state apparatus that started back with Nixon and his "war on drugs."
Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter anymore.
The industrial complex has its meat-hooks into both parties, and they keep blaming "capitalism" for it.
I hope there is a god, because we as a society don't seem like we're going to turn this speeding locomotive around before we reach the cliff.
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Old 2011-10-23, 09:28   Link #17246
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Old 2011-10-23, 15:02   Link #17247
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Huge turnout in Tunisia's Arab Spring election
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79L28820111023
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Tunisians turned out in force to vote in the country's first free election, 10 months after vegetable seller Mohamed Bouazizi set himself on fire in an act of protest that started the Arab Spring uprisings.
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Old 2011-10-23, 15:07   Link #17248
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It warms my heart to see a nation embrace self determination and justice in politcs.

Seeing the sheer amount of parties and ideologies just makes me sit in wonder at how stuck in a rut the American political establishment is. It's stable but caters far too much special interests and hardliners.

I'll probably read more about it tommorow once votes are tallied.
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Old 2011-10-23, 15:12   Link #17249
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It warms my heart to see a nation embrace self determination and justice in politcs.
lets hope you're heart would stay warm once you see who they actually end up voting FOR.
because i've got an odd feeling that it would not be a progressive candidate.

also, Lol at the phrase "justice in politics"
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Old 2011-10-23, 15:14   Link #17250
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lets hope you're heart would stay warm once you see who they actually end up voting FOR.
because i've got an odd feeling that it would not be a progressive candidate.

also, Lol at the phrase "justice in politics"
That's the bad thing when democratic principles aren't part of the basic fabric - people will often vote in a party that intends there be no more silly elections.
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Old 2011-10-23, 15:40   Link #17251
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That's the bad thing when democratic principles aren't part of the basic fabric - people will often vote in a party that intends there be no more silly elections.
Bad? It's the people's will in action. They want tyranny, they vote for it, they get it.

I remember when I tried to vote for less taxes... it didn't go so well.
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Old 2011-10-23, 15:45   Link #17252
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Bad? It's the people's will in action. They want tyranny, they vote for it, they get it.

I remember when I tried to vote for less taxes... it didn't go so well.
Its the "people's will" at that moment -- they don't get another chance to change their mind in a non-violent way. And there's the assumption the election process wasn't corrupted. If the principles of democracy are in the cultural fabric, then there's little or no tolerance for groups that would take it away and they wouldn't be elected in the first place. At least it forces such groups to use the 'slippery slope' process (e.g. the world changed after 9/11... well, no it really didn't but you're using that as an excuse to incrementally create a police state).

The notion that its best for all to separate religion from 'the state' does not seem to be taking hold easily in some parts of the world, either.

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Old 2011-10-23, 16:20   Link #17253
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Bad? It's the people's will in action. They want tyranny, they vote for it, they get it.

I remember when I tried to vote for less taxes... it didn't go so well.
I had problems choosing who to vote for in both of the recent elections, so I ended up voting for the party that gave me money. *sarcastic*
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Old 2011-10-23, 16:25   Link #17254
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Well we in britian are used to our PM taking rubbish, blaming others, making u-turns and taking credit for other peoples' work, but this is funny:
Nicolas Sarkozy tells David Cameron: shut up over the euro|Guardian article
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Sarkozy bluntly told Cameron: "You have lost a good opportunity to shut up." He added: "We are sick of you criticising us and telling us what to do. You say you hate the euro and now you want to interfere in our meetings."
Kind of hope other leaders will start standing up to Cameron and his wishy-washy politics, especially over the eurozone. The world has changed and he and his party are still stuck in the past about power division in europe.
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Old 2011-10-23, 16:48   Link #17255
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On Tunisia lets leave the holier than thou approach alone until we figure out who they voted for shall we.

Especially because each major democracy has warts.

Also Tunisia is not some backwoods, cleric dominated cesspool of fundamentalism. It's rather wealthy and educated compared to it's neighbors. I doubt they'll turn into another Iran.
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Old 2011-10-23, 21:28   Link #17256
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Now it's Turkey's turn for a killer quake. Man, 2011 is turning out to be one of the worst years I can remember.
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Old 2011-10-24, 00:25   Link #17257
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Well we in britian are used to our PM taking rubbish, blaming others, making u-turns and taking credit for other peoples' work, but this is funny:
Nicolas Sarkozy tells David Cameron: shut up over the euro|Guardian article

Kind of hope other leaders will start standing up to Cameron and his wishy-washy politics, especially over the eurozone. The world has changed and he and his party are still stuck in the past about power division in europe.
Wow, no matter how I see it, I think there was plenty of way to say it differently .
Your PM still have support, it's putting both states in a difficult relationship.

Though it's true I don't like your PM -Cameron that is-, he used everything that happened past months to wash his hands and make UK forget what happened in the beginning of the year.
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Old 2011-10-24, 01:34   Link #17258
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Libya's new rulers declare country liberated

I found this particular paragraph interesting.
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Mr Abdul Jalil said the new Libya would take Islamic law as its foundation. Interest for bank loans would be capped, he said, and restrictions on the number of wives Libyan men could take would be lifted.
Victory for all the freedom fighters!
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Old 2011-10-24, 06:52   Link #17259
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U.S. pulls out ambassador from Syria
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The United States has pulled its ambassador out of Syria over security concerns after his cultivation of contacts with protesters led to attacks on his embassy and residence by backers of President Bashar al-Assad, diplomats said on Monday.
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Old 2011-10-24, 07:51   Link #17260
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Kind of hope other leaders will start standing up to Cameron and his wishy-washy politics, especially over the eurozone. The world has changed and he and his party are still stuck in the past about power division in europe.
Cameron's reasons for 'meddling' in the eurozone crisis are less to do with a: "haha, I told you so" mentality, and much more to do with a: "if you idiots don't fix this, you'll be dragging every neighbouring country whose trade depends on you down the whirlpool as well". The UK ministers out there could be a bit more polite though, but I guess their idea of being firm is Sarkozy's idea of being rude.
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