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Old 2011-10-27, 15:39   Link #1261
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hmm... Didn't the vial broke because it was struck by the bullet(presumably) from the mecha?
But it appeared to me that Shuu's body was turned so it was between the mecha and the vial. No?

I've just seen ep3. The beat goes on. Still enjoying it. Some inconsistencies explained. Some facepalm decisions made.

As 2channel says, Horizon is soundly defeating this show in sales and interest. As usual, I think the more popular show is a pile of junk and the less popular show is enjoyable. I like Shuu for his emotions and uncertainties.
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Old 2011-10-27, 15:40   Link #1262
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But it appeared to me that Shuu's body was turned so it was between the mecha and the vial. No?
No. You are absolutely correct. The physics don't work for that shot and scene. But, I think we can all agree to turn our minds off to enjoy this show.

As for popularity, does the block have anything to do with it? Because I'd assume Guilty Crown is otaku (Japanese) fodder for raving popularity if it wasn't billed as a noitaminA show.
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Old 2011-10-27, 15:58   Link #1263
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Really enjoyable episode. Really great pacing and cliffhanger. Sure there were things you could've seen coming(such as the betrayal), but that personally didn't affect how much I enjoyed this episode. I rofl'd when Shuu was extracting Voids despite how dumb it may have been not to do so in some more secluded areas a few times... gotta admit he did look a bit awesome when he was gonna extract Souta's.
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:00   Link #1264
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So far, Inori's Void is the coolest.

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Old 2011-10-27, 16:01   Link #1265
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There might exist people who like that kind of thing. I find it extremely off-puting, but given three episodes of it in a row I doubt it's going anywhere unfortunately.
Re: Inori's objectification. I'm thinking (hoping?) that they're going somewhere with this. The justification, or at the very least the development will need to be pretty clever.

Much of episode 3 felt like house cleaning after a wild party, as Guilty Crown begins to set the stage in earnest. The tropes were laid on thick, but the purpose was to set up the scenario, and start things moving along. The only thing I can't get past: Can we please get an antagonist who doesn't look like his hobbies include dog-kicking and tying damsels to railroad tracks?

Shu is appropriately failtastic for a reluctant hero. If he was hoping to get through school unnoticed, he's not doing very well; he already has at least one admirer.
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:03   Link #1266
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So, speculation on Inori's true personality? I mean, if he's pulling out a huge sword that puts Cloud Strife to shame, the public face we see from Inori has to be fake right?

Jilted love?
Hate?
Is she a cutter who cuts herself due to the pressures of being an idol?

Any other guesses?
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:05   Link #1267
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So Inori's already married? Cue the fan rage.
Where is the source of this? Was it in the episode?
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:12   Link #1268
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Lol not only did Inori show up at school she even moved in. So SHu's mom is now his enemy or at least potential enemy. Nice job by Shu on figuring out Gai's ability. Instantly though of Yahiro when he mentioned it was someone at his school. I think Shu's naivety is to blame for him being captured. There was no way Yahiro was going to keep his promise. Wonder how he'll escape. Wonder what Shu's mom will think when she finds out her son was the one that used the void genome that she helped develop.
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:15   Link #1269
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Well, one plot hole was cleared up from last episode (Gai seeing voids). Unfortunately...in addition to being boring, this episode was ungodly annoying. It played every cliche to the letter, the characters are obnoxious cut-outs, the comedy was predictable, barely anything important was done, and when is somebody going to shoot that ungrateful bastard, Yahiro, already? And no, reconciling with a guy, only for him to screw you later, is not original. And even if it was, it was done terribly. We never saw them hang out all that much before this episode. We didn't even get to see the scene where they reconciled. It was just talking heads and lazy narration. Where's the depth?

Also, the music is weird, but I didn't have much of a problem with it. I guess the cliffhanger was okay, but when are these characters going to be stop being tools and have actual depth to them? What is this, Independence Day?

So yeah, I hated this episode more than the last one. If you like it, that's fine. I don't want a repeat of last episode's discussion. But seriously, do something important! You don't have as many episodes as Eureka Seven. You can't spend time pretending to be a generic shonen for much longer.

Edit: Oh yeah, and there is one thing that really irked me. If Shu was planning on pulling out a Void out in secret by targeting one of his friends, how come so many people showed up JUST as his hand was there? In other words, if he pulled the Void out, so many people would have seen it anyways, and it would have been worse for him. So literally, all logic that the anime built up just went out the window for a weak throwaway joke (unless this events comes back later to bite him). And why'd he close his eyes to begin with? That entire scene, no matter how you look at it, makes no sense.
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:21   Link #1270
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Episode 3
The show still never betrays me from episode 1. From episode 1 which kinda disappoints me so after that I just watch this without thinking too much and I did enjoy it. Like the tons of fan service and the melting of Shuu's brain. Gai is indeed a smart guy sending Inori. The classmates like her and she is pretty convenient around. Though it looks like she is just an empty shell right now. Though as the story goes. She might change. Just like in the end of the chapter. That is a bit unexpected move from Inori from what I can tell on Gai's reaction. It means Inori is still changing. While the emo and clumsy Shuu which accidentally gropes on class rep's breast I like the comment of Hare. If he just ask her she would gladly is she a childhood friend character? well lots of explaining concerning void and about Gai's ability. Shu is also pretty smart but dumb at the same time. A balance character. He learns and adapts fast but he gets too nervous and his judgement gets clouded. And there comes Inori. She is not just for fan service issue. She also guides Shuu into his right path.

And onto the enemy which is soooooo clear enemy. Why can't they make an enemy which is a bit gray in the area. Well I will stop my complain and just shut off my brains again but it's just ... <.<

Well onto the betraying friend. I find it nice that they come to an agreement and all ends well until that betrayal. I didn't see that coming. If I over analyzed the story I might see that coming but since I watch it with just turning my brains off. I didn't see that coming at all! thus the first bond Shuu create was turn sour. A color of betrayal from the beginning. Well it will teach Shu a thing or 2 about how naive is his views on this world. But it's kinda sad <.< so he will change >.> I like naive characters but also hate them. Well it's depend on the MC but I like the current Shu's naive view on the world. He forgives his friend but to get betray. I hate Shu who was a wimp and nervous all the time and even go emo mode because he gets hurt easily. But I like his kinda side.

Well overall nice episode.
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:29   Link #1271
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Lol not only did Inori show up at school she even moved in. So SHu's mom is now his enemy or at least potential enemy. Nice job by SHu on figuring out Gai's ability. Instantly though of Yahiro when he mentioned it was someone at his school. I think Shu's naivety is to blame for him being captured. There was no way Yahiro was going to keep his promise. Wonder how he'll escape. Wonder what SHu's mom will think when she finds out her son was the one that used the void genome that she helped develop.
Well, duh! She would be proud of him. :P
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:36   Link #1272
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Wonder how he'll escape.
I suspect since they must know who he's related to, coupled with them not just shooting him right on the spot, means he's going to be whispered to by the Dark Side, because you see Shu, we're not really evil psychopaths with gay hair stylists...I mean, do you think your mom could possibly be evil? Oh, and also, look at what we're fighting against Shu, some jobblywok about the greater good etc.

ie: They'll try to win his sympathy. Maybe make him a double agent.
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:55   Link #1273
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From the looks of the latest preview, it seems like we'll being seeing what looks to be Gai's father, or another family realtive. Nothing's been said on Gai's family anyway. Maybe we'll get some more hints on what happened some ten years ago.

If not perhaps Gai trying to pull off a lame disguise that actually works? jk
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Old 2011-10-27, 16:59   Link #1274
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I suspect since they must know who he's related to, coupled with them not just shooting him right on the spot, means he's going to be whispered to by the Dark Side, because you see Shu, we're not really evil psychopaths with gay hair stylists...I mean, do you think your mom could possibly be evil? Oh, and also, look at what we're fighting against Shu, some jobblywok about the greater good etc.
I can't picture that upside down guy to talk Shu on becoming one of them. So far the show clearly shows white and black and it will be good if they show different side of it. Though the betrayal clearly show that they won't probably do it in linear way of between bad and good.
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Old 2011-10-27, 17:28   Link #1275
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I think it's significant that only he was betrayed, not Inori as well. It implies that the bad guys came for Sugar and not the other way around. Pretty slick of him actually as you can't seriously expect to keep secrets when tortured so getting away with only giving up one secret is a partial win.

As for Inori's personality so does it seem like she almost have none as if she was artificial. I am pretty sure it's not by accident as it's fairly obvious. A personality like a sword can be seen as very direct and uncomplicated. Her little robot seems more socially aware then she is
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Old 2011-10-27, 17:35   Link #1276
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As 2channel says, Horizon is soundly defeating this show in sales and interest. As usual, I think the more popular show is a pile of junk and the less popular show is enjoyable. I like Shuu for his emotions and uncertainties.
Horizon has a fan base already , with original stuff you can never know what will happen it might end up selling nothing or be a big hit .
It only take a few eps for things to change to worst or better .


This ep was okay but i don't really expect much from this show other than it being good looking .
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Old 2011-10-27, 17:40   Link #1277
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Look on the bright side. At least the response is more positive. Although I'm now almost fully convinced that this show is on auto-pilot.
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Old 2011-10-27, 18:05   Link #1278
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Also the objectifying of Inori is laid on pretty thick. With her even saying she belongs to him now, etc. Kinda creepy.
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Re: Inori's objectification. I'm thinking (hoping?) that they're going somewhere with this. The justification, or at the very least the development will need to be pretty clever.
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As for Inori's personality so does it seem like she almost have none as if she was artificial. I am pretty sure it's not by accident as it's fairly obvious. A personality like a sword can be seen as very direct and uncomplicated. Her little robot seems more socially aware then she is
I am very positive that Inori is some form of artificial lifeform. Her actions and expressions all lead to this. She even treats herself as an object. Her request to be able to stay by Shu's side sounds like a small child requesting it. I feel as if she was created in order to have that incredibly powerful void sword, and is probably not over 10 years old, if even less. A clone, could be a possibility as well.

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And so far I don't see any good friends of main chara who could possibly become an enemy.
You asked, and episode 3 provided.

That said, since Yahiro is part of the school crowd in the intro, I do expect him to make up for it at some point in the near future.

However, since Shu is now identified as a potential threat, his school life is over... unless his mom helps him out somehow.
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Old 2011-10-27, 18:07   Link #1279
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Old 2011-10-27, 18:17   Link #1280
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I like how they made Shu vocalize his complaints so much; it makes it feel a lot more personable than pathetic characters who don't do so.

The whole bit with him building his confidence about making eye contact by having him accost so many of his fellow students seemed odd, but in the context of the whole interpersonal relationship building mechanic that they're pushing with Voids, it seems like an incredibly contrived way of teaching unsociable people to be more confident and outgoing, to announce themselves, make eye contact and... by accosting teens and pulling out their hearts made manifest...

Sugar was a great set up for the theme as well by introducing betrayal right after Shu's little monologue, but maybe this just makes the flatness of the whole GHQ and Undertaker business that we've seen so far seem shoddier in comparison. Really, less freedom fighters vs the world wouldn't hurt.
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