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Old 2011-11-03, 13:18   Link #81
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I agree with Randrak42..

However, the true key strength to BB's Dark Fruit is its ability to harm Logia users without even touching them and that includes nullifying DFs powers. Haki requires direct contact (touching). Nevertheless, BB seems to acquire a hell of Haki. How in the world would someone hit Shanks without a devil fruit? It should be Haki, and a whole lot of it.

Returning back to topic, I think Hody is done for this time. He even gave his last words in that small panel saying something like (go Noah and destroy those pride-less fishmen). Now it is Luffy against time. Can he destroy the Noah before it reaches the island?

I am also interested in Shirlyes vision showing Luffy walking in fire. Did she realize her misinterpretation? Or is the Noah implied as the fishmen Island?

I think Luffy meant that Hody is tougher than normal people 100 million times. I can't see Luffy that smart to compare with bounties.
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Old 2011-11-03, 13:24   Link #82
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I'm 99% sure Shirley lied. She probably saw that Luffy is the trigger for why Fishman Island will end up being destroyed.
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Old 2011-11-03, 13:35   Link #83
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If Hody still lives after all these special attacks, his stamina must be Whitebeard/Blackbeard/Kuma/Lucci level.Too bad immortality alone wont do him any good.
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Old 2011-11-03, 14:26   Link #84
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^Actually, I'd say Hody's stamina is more comparable to Awakened Zoans (or Usopp/Spandam ) than the typical GL superpowers.....


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I don't think there will be "time" involvements in this series,Oda's much better than that...

Why not? Frankly, DF powers in general defy logic as it is, so I see no reason why Oda couldn't make a time-based power work. Unless you think that Oda would suddenly pull a Bleach and have Blackbeard become some wacky troll of a villain like Aizen/Tsukishima? I already pointed out Jojo in my last post (as well as billions of times before then), which does an awesome job of handling time powers (well, not so much King Crimson, but that's a matter of personal taste).



Which reminds me: I pointed out the possibility of Blackbeard "evolving" his powers in a manner similar to Pucci in my last post. I now realize that the comparison is even more fitting since Teach, much like Pucci, also has a gravity-type power (even if the darkness fruit works differently from C-Moon).
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Old 2011-11-03, 16:44   Link #85
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Ah, JoJo, that's an awesome series especially with its structure and concept of supernatural power Star Platinum is still my favorite stand.

Why can't we having "time" manipulation type of power?

I mean so far we already Bonney whose DF power seems to allow her to manipulate age, not to mention we are (potentially) hinted with the mention of tamatebako in this arc.
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Old 2011-11-03, 17:57   Link #86
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I mean so far we already Bonney whose DF power seems to allow her to manipulate age, not to mention we are (potentially) hinted with the mention of tamatebako in this arc.
The Tamatebako is likely but very, very likely...

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Old 2011-11-03, 18:43   Link #87
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The Tamatebako is likely but very, very likely...

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How can you say it's "very very likely" when the thing hasn't even been mentioned in a while...and what has been said about it relates to age alteration (not to mention the RL myth)

Actually betting it would be Bonney's DF, which she somehow got some time before.
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Old 2011-11-03, 18:54   Link #88
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How can you say it's "very very likely" when the thing hasn't even been mentioned in a while...and what has been said about it relates to age alteration (not to mention the RL myth)

Actually betting it would be Bonney's DF, which she somehow got some time before.
Simple. The box is called "Urashima Casket". Anyone who has read the tale knows how it relates to this ornament. Like I said in a previous post of mine, overdose makes you go old in exchange for huge amounts of strenght, or rather, it shaves your life away. And during Hody's flashback we can see how the white shark, still a royal soldier, takes out a bag full with something his comrades describe as "legendary".

Vander Decken's underlings were most likely misinformed. It relates to age alteration, yeah, but not in the way you expected at first. To me it makes perfect sense.

That said, this is just a theory for now, but I would be really surprised if it turned out to be something else. Anyway, it's just a matter of time before we get a definite answer.
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Old 2011-11-03, 20:14   Link #89
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They grow old because...their hair turns white?

Sure.........why not
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Old 2011-11-03, 22:04   Link #90
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How about...

ES Pills give you enormous strength by aging you instantly, and giving you all the combined strength you WOULD have gained in those years you lost.
That way, the pills "shaving your life off" doesn't contradict either.

Eh? EH? (Metro-man impression)
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Old 2011-11-03, 22:56   Link #91
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we're nearing the end of FI arc and i am still wondering if Noah's really something more than an ark. Hody's not down yet it seems. he's still got one desperate attack to come and luffy's just gonna own him again anyway. lol

and lastly, WTF?! ANOTHER BREAK??! HUH?! ok,ok, oda, i understand you need rest but it's so dull w/o a new OP chapter DX

..I'm excited about next arc. NEW WORLD, HERE WE GO!!!
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Old 2011-11-04, 01:11   Link #92
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we're nearing the end of FI arc and i am still wondering if Noah's really something more than an ark.
Considering that the great weapons of the past are getting erased from the history in one way or another, as the Strawhats get stronger, no need to worry about that part. Regardless of its original purpose, it will most likely be gone soon enough, opening a new era for everyone involved.
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Old 2011-11-04, 01:23   Link #93
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Why can't we having "time" manipulation type of power?
Didn't we already have this power? Remember Foxy
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Old 2011-11-04, 05:16   Link #94
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Good catch, I totally forgot about Foxy, his DF is in a sense a time manipulation power as well.
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Old 2011-11-04, 10:17   Link #95
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Foxy's power wasn't really a time-based one, though. It merely slowed things down for half a minute, not slow down time itself. Really, what I had in mind for Blackbeard was something more along the lines of Jojo stand powers like The World or Killer Queen's Bites the Dust power-up ("freezing" and "resetting" time, respectively).



Also..... I thought I'd once again put in another shameless plug for the SBS thread, in case anyone missed it. Some very interesting info's been posted there (particularly a certain marine-related tidbit).....
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Old 2011-11-04, 10:27   Link #96
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I'm against any time-based powers (at least cheap opne's like stopping time), much less for BB who's strong as it is
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Old 2011-11-04, 10:58   Link #97
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^Think of it this way, though: If Blackbeard is able to freeze time, maybe he'll finally learn to dodge attacks for a change.
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Old 2011-11-04, 11:23   Link #98
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he has good reactions, can whip up the black stuff in front of him to suck it in (Black Vortex I think) or can just quake whatever is coming at him

or better yet - quake it before it can launch an attack





.. or just tank ^^
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Old 2011-11-04, 13:08   Link #99
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Actually BB is rather unique in One Piece top tier villains since he takes every attack like a boss instead of dodging. Only seen WB do this and he did it well.

so if he suddenly started dodging everything...it would be kinda lame imo :|
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Old 2011-11-04, 13:28   Link #100
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Actually BB is rather unique in One Piece top tier villains since he takes every attack like a boss instead of dodging. Only seen WB do this and he did it well.

so if he suddenly started dodging everything...it would be kinda lame imo :|
agreed
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