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Old 2004-11-29, 12:48   Link #21
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Now let's reason with this analytically why even an anime with such a low rating may have a good chance of doing another season:

The supposed census of Japan is 160,000,000 persons.
The supposed viewer rating for "Marimite~Haru~" is 0.3%

Supposed number of viewers for "Marimite~Haru~":
0.3% x 160,000,000 persons = 480,000 persons = A
All inhabitants of Japan are watching TV?

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Old 2004-11-29, 15:22   Link #22
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0.3% Although isn't good probably isn't that bad for the type of Anime Maria-Sama ga Miteru on TV. (By type I meant drama shoujo)
For example; From FlyByNite at Gumdum board
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the top 10 for the week of October 4th through 10th:
1) Sazae-san - 20.4%
2) Chibi Maruko-chan - 14.4%
3) Detective Conan Aki No Honkaku Mystery Special - 14.3%
4) Anime 7 (One Piece and Kochikame) - 10.8%
5) Mobile Suit Gundam SEED DESTINY - 8.2%
6) Konjiki No Gash Bell! - 7.3%
7) Futari Wa Precure - 7.2%
8) NHK Anime Playhouse: Agatha Christie's Great Detectives Poirot & Marple - 6.6%
9) Channel Alpha Dragonball (DB reruns on Fuji TV) - 6.5%
10) Prince Of Tennis Special - 6.1%
Apart from Futari Wa Precure - Action Fantasy Shoujo, there isn't any Shoujo anime on top 10. The highest viewer seem to go to either Funny, aim for little kid, or action anime.
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Old 2004-11-29, 20:58   Link #23
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I say that there should definitely be a third season.
so far I have enjoyed every episode.
even though it can get a bit confusing.
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Old 2004-11-29, 21:57   Link #24
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All inhabitants of Japan are watching TV?

....you do know how TV ratings work don't you?
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Old 2004-11-30, 03:09   Link #25
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Wow! That interview hit the nail on the head!

Let me paraphrase (from http://mariamite.free.fr/maria_article_eng.htm)

"I believe that when the staff of this anime decided to make Marimite into anime, they seriously deliberated upon "To whom should they set target audience?"
They chose DaFool , because DaFool spends much more money than high school girls. But they also desided, "We will never curry DaFool 's favor like bishoujo anime." They knew DaFool [was] bored with harem anime like Love Hina and lolicon anime like Chobits. DaFool had a thirst for something new. So they made this anime in elegant shoujo style. They think DaFool h[has] no immunity to this kind of style, and maybe they are right.
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Old 2004-11-30, 09:54   Link #26
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ROFL!!!!!!!

well, after seeing something like naruto only getting around 9% (and FMA at 6%, seed at 8%), i'm not that disappointed in marimite's ratings anymore. it's for a niche group, and imho it will stay that way.

fans will call out for it, and i'm keeping both my fingers crossed so that the producers will listen.
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Old 2004-11-30, 12:07   Link #27
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....you do know how TV ratings work don't you?
I know that you combined an absolute census number and a relative viewer number. If the latter number is relative to the former then logically all people in Japan watch TV. If the latter number is not relative to the former then the mentioning of the former number is irelevant to the argument.

Also, CIA World Fact Book estimates the population census at 127,333,002 (July 2004 est.). Not that it matters much, just saying.
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Old 2004-11-30, 17:03   Link #28
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I know that you combined an absolute census number and a relative viewer number. If the latter number is relative to the former then logically all people in Japan watch TV. If the latter number is not relative to the former then the mentioning of the former number is irelevant to the argument.

Also, CIA World Fact Book estimates the population census at 127,333,002 (July 2004 est.). Not that it matters much, just saying.
Well taking Japanese government data and the Euromonitor International statistics, 99.14 per 100 people in Japan own TV sets so I'm assuming that almost everyone in Japan watches at least some sort of televised entertainment.

But since you are interested in a more accurate number, let's use your figures for a revision then:

127,333,002 x 0.9914 = approx 126,237,938 persons in Japan who watched televised entertainment
The supposed viewer rating for "Marimite~Haru~" is 0.3%

Supposed number of viewers for "Marimite~Haru~":
0.3% x 126,237,938 persons = approx 378,714 persons = A

Using the "it costs a little over 30,000,000 yen per episode to make an anime" rule:
30,000,000 yen x 13 episodes = 390,000,000 yen = B


Now here comes the hard question..."out of the total viewers of this series, how many will actually go out and buy the DVD?"

number of prospective buyers:
100% x A = 378,713
90 % x A = 340,842
80 % x A = 302,970
70 % x A = 265,099
60 % x A = 227,228
50 % x A = 189,357
40 % x A = 151,485
30 % x A = 113,614
20 % x A = 75,743
10 % x A = 37,871

Now use those figures and figure out the prospective sales. I will use 7000 yen per disc for 6 discs each

378,713 x 7000 yen x 6 discs= 15,905,946,000 yen
340,842 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 14,315,351,400 yen
302,970 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 12,724,756,800 yen
265,099 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 11,134,162,200 yen
227,228 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 9,543,567,600 yen
189,357 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 7,952,973,000 yen
151,485 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 6,362,378,400 yen
113,614 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 4,771,783,800 yen
75,743 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 3,181,189,200 yen
37,871 x 7000 yen x 6 discs = 1,590,594,600 yen


As you can see, even if 37,871 persons buys the DVDs (10% of 0.3% of 99.13% the entire Japanese populace), this anime rakes in profit.


...Unless you meant something like "the amount of people watching TV at a certain given time." Unfortunately, that is not how TV ratings work - a rating monitor system is randomly selected among the populace as a per ratio of the sample size of the total population of Japan.

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Old 2004-11-30, 19:53   Link #29
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A 3rd season? Psh.

It leaves one to wonder if the second season would be completely subtitled by the time the third season finished airing.
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Old 2004-11-30, 20:41   Link #30
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It leaves one to wonder if the second season would be completely subtitled by the time the third season finished airing.
It also leaves one to wonder wheter those comments serve any value at all ;p

Don't you know the golden rules of game translation/fansub/software developing

Do not ask when the next version/release is comming out
Do not ask about the features/characteristics the next release will have
Do not nag about the next release
Do not bother the developers/translators with silly questions
Do not ask the developers/translators questions at all
Do not make any kind of commentary that could lead the project workers to remotely suspect that you are possibly asking for the next release
And before you reply, the answer is no
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Old 2004-11-30, 20:52   Link #31
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Lol. First rule of fansub club, gosh why do people forget
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Old 2004-11-30, 22:49   Link #32
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You will get your fix soon enough ....

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Old 2004-11-30, 23:06   Link #33
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You see? When you are nice the fansubbers are nice... even double nice at times
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Old 2004-12-01, 01:24   Link #34
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Yeahhh!!!!
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Old 2004-12-01, 02:18   Link #35
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I agree that OAVs are probable, because the series is lucrative, but it does not look like a third season is slated anytime soon. Movies were mentioned but in a way I think an OAV series would be even nicer because they may not rush resolution as a movie must (not that one wouldn't be nice as well ^^). Aside from that, while I have not seen S2 13 yet, I have heard of a somewhat... dramatic visual ending, which sort of begs the idea of closure.

Also, people seem to have conflicting notions about which season was slower paced. I feel that the first season had a slower pace, and I thought it more pleasant and thoughtful, which in turn made the second season "slower" in terms of my interest... in a way the second season has been more of a fix for me than a pleasure. So I would hope for an OAV series to be nice, slow episodes. I don't see how this could be the end of MariMite, so I look forward to it in whatever form it comes in.

Maybe the novels will be more accessible to people of other languages too due to eventual fan translations etc who miss the seasons. If I could get these novels soon I know I would jump on the chance to provide, so I imagine others feel the same way. So the conclusion is I think more MariMite is thankfully inevetible.
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Old 2004-12-01, 03:42   Link #36
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Well taking Japanese government data and the Euromonitor International statistics, 99.14 per 100 people in Japan own TV sets so I'm assuming that almost everyone in Japan watches at least some sort of televised entertainment.
Oh, okay. That was kinda where I was dumbfounded to begin with. Thanks for explaining.
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Old 2004-12-02, 10:01   Link #37
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Two more episodes of Maria-sama ga Miteru Spring Season are out!!! OMFG!!! THANK YOU!!!
*goes out and gets wasted*
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Old 2004-12-02, 23:52   Link #38
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Bouuh !! I didn't realize Marimite had such low ratings @_@
I will be really depressed if they choose not to make a third season T__T
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Old 2004-12-04, 18:42   Link #39
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hmm............
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That looks pretty certain, if it is real!
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