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View Poll Results: Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon - Episode 6 Rating
Perfect 10 17 36.96%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 12 26.09%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 8 17.39%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 10.87%
6 out of 10 : Average 4 8.70%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2011-11-09, 01:45   Link #41
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^ He better be even more injured now after that boost of speed, otherwise that's just ridiculous.
It didn't look like he did a crazy boost though like the one he did versus Tadakatsu. Judging by how he was using boost in that fight I doubt a boost like he did in this episode effected him much.
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Old 2011-11-09, 02:06   Link #42
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^ and I believe he was healed already? (using some spell that Gin uses in the beginning of the episode)

although I'm sure he hasn't 100% healed
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Old 2011-11-09, 02:52   Link #43
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We have 3 girls that got left out so far (Azuma and Miriam aside ... maybe we will find out what these two are doing later ...).

Naomasa
Neito
Masazumi <--- despite the translation uses 'he', I think the actual references are not gender related, but still something to keep in mind.

I think it's kinda a neta play here, because Ii was mentioned by Sakai back in episode 4 as the dude who didn't show up (and confirmed got spirited away by the drinking buddy). Ii's full name is Ii Naomasa, but probably not related to huge-spanner chick.

Also, these guys aren't jumping straight into saving Horizon; in fact, they don't seem like they care much except for Suzu. Apathy or restraint I don't know, but at least I like the fact they're actually opening this for discussion. As much as I like overpowered MCs that just solo bosses and save the chicks of their dreams, sometimes I really hate how useless the those dudes' friends are. Feels like the author spends all those time building the friendship and in the end they can only watch from the sideline.

For the people who don't go into the light novel thread in fear of spoilers, dear Zeroblade began translating the Q and A from the wiki made for anime-fans only, can be found at the infodump site. Pretty interesting reads really.

Preview for episode 7 (stupid bandai channel ...): http://vlog.xuite.net/play/REVZc0VnLTM5ODg2NTIuZmx2 POWER OF MONEY~~

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Old 2011-11-09, 06:53   Link #44
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Also, these guys aren't jumping straight into saving Horizon; in fact, they don't seem like they care much except for Suzu. Apathy or restraint I don't know, but at least I like the fact they're actually opening this for discussion. As much as I like overpowered MCs that just solo bosses and save the chicks of their dreams, sometimes I really hate how useless the those dudes' friends are. Feels like the author spends all those time building the friendship and in the end they can only watch from the sideline.
Well i'm thinking that they actually want to save horizon but they dont know exactly how. Thats why they held discussion in this matter so they can plan the rescue plan accordingly because this matter affected the whole far east.

Kinda curious how does the MC overpowered? and how you know that their friends only watch from the sideline?
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Old 2011-11-09, 10:59   Link #45
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He was just making an example of other stories where the MC is overpowered and makes the side-characters redundant sideliners.
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Old 2011-11-09, 12:37   Link #46
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We have 3 girls that got left out so far (Azuma and Miriam aside ... maybe we will find out what these two are doing later ...).

Naomasa
Neito
Masazumi <--- despite the translation uses 'he', I think the actual references are not gender related, but still something to keep in mind.
Azuma is a guy and Masazumi is a girl

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Also, these guys aren't jumping straight into saving Horizon; in fact, they don't seem like they care much except for Suzu. Apathy or restraint I don't know, but at least I like the fact they're actually opening this for discussion. As much as I like overpowered MCs that just solo bosses and save the chicks of their dreams, sometimes I really hate how useless the those dudes' friends are. Feels like the author spends all those time building the friendship and in the end they can only watch from the sideline.
personally i like the rational discussion about whether to rescue Horizon or not. Instead of charge by a Hot Blood brigade we are getting a rational discussion about whether Musashi can defy ITA and get away with it. jiroshiro's brief talk about food supplies is more then any anime since Legend of Galactic Heroes have spend on talking about logistic and supplies of wagering a successful rebellion.
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Old 2011-11-09, 13:17   Link #47
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To me Jiroshiro is only interested in money. Every time he had opened his mouth so far, it has been money related. Is the first student to talk in the series, and he was already talking about money . And in this episode, her own girlfriend was talking about what they will going to do about Horizon, and he was not interested at all... until she mentioned kindly he could make some profit out of it. The food related talk was only a chance to joke about lolicon guy.
They will forget completly about this topic next episodes
It was all to show they need Masazumi on their side in the end to me.

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Old 2011-11-09, 23:28   Link #48
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Some of you might feel that Toori was a jerk reading magazines when everybody was discussing a plan to rescue Horizon. But think about it. Do you REALLY believe that he was reading a magazine at that time? It was obviously just an excuse for Toori to cheer everybody up.
I believe that he was REALLY, REALLY DOWN for the whole time.

Imagine, until yesterday you thought you are gonna live "those ordinary days" forever.

All of a sudden, some reactor melt down, and a world war is about to start.

AND, you discovered that your lover's SOUL is ACTUALLY RESIDING in the look-alike self-operating-doll that you were going to confess to.

AND she is designated to become some sort of super powerful Ultimate weapon.

Then, she was took away RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES.

Today, you heard that she is going to commit suicide on board of some enemy ship.

Then during class, one of your greatest childhood friend, Suzu, cries out to you in tears, "PLEASE SAVE HER!"


I couldn't take it. I would have stormed out of the classroom. I just can't take that much all at once. But boy oh boy, LOOK at Toori.

You see, Toori 's playfulness is not playfulness. By doing his foolish acts, he cheered Suzu up. He cheered everybody up. Heck, with tears still flowing on my face, I was laughing so hard.

Toori 's playfulness is not playfulness. It is the ULTIMATE DISPLAY OF HIS MENTAL STRENGTH.
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Old 2011-11-09, 23:43   Link #49
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And don't forget, after that little breast-groping silliness, Toori managed to metaphorically took Suzu's hand again and lifted it up even more.

He said:
"I wasn't being overly considerate when I took your hand back then. I wanted to hold your hand because, you were such a kind and nice girl. Everybody has the same thoughts, right?"

He was effectively saying, in a VERY subtle and gentle way:
"I didn't hold your hand because I pity your blindness. I held you hand because I want to be your FRIEND."


I JUST CAN'T EVEN START TO IMAGINE HOW MUCH THAT MEANS TO A BLIND PERSON.


No kidding. Toori is the kind of true friend, true leader that I am willing to fight for and die for.

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Old 2011-11-10, 00:50   Link #50
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To me Jiroshiro is only interested in money. Every time he had opened his mouth so far, it has been money related. Is the first student to talk in the series, and he was already talking about money . And in this episode, her own girlfriend was talking about what they will going to do about Horizon, and he was not interested at all... until she mentioned kindly he could make some profit out of it.
If I remember correctly isn't he the head of the Treasury? Then it seem to fit his persona...

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Toori 's playfulness is not playfulness. It is the ULTIMATE DISPLAY OF HIS MENTAL STRENGTH.
He is indeed a natural born leader...
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Old 2011-11-10, 01:56   Link #51
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I noticed the mention of the close links between the Mitotsudaira Clan and the Matsudaira Clan on Episode 6.
Then, upon further research, I discovered that there is a feudal domain called Mito that is connected to the Tokugawa Clan.

Well, we know that Ieyasu Tokugawa = Motonobu Matsudaira, and Nate (or Neito) Mitotsudaira is often called as Mito by her classmates, so there's a possibility that Nate's real surname might have been Mito in the past and Mitotsudaira = Mito + (Ma)tsudaira?
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Old 2011-11-10, 02:41   Link #52
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I noticed the mention of the close links between the Mitotsudaira Clan and the Matsudaira Clan on Episode 6.
Then, upon further research, I discovered that there is a feudal domain called Mito that is connected to the Tokugawa Clan.

Well, we know that Ieyasu Tokugawa = Motonobu Matsudaira, and Nate (or Neito) Mitotsudaira is often called as Mito by her classmates, so there's a possibility that Nate's real surname might have been Mito in the past and Mitotsudaira = Mito + (Ma)tsudaira?
No no, they call her Natto = tofu (misheard her name intentionally)

Neito come from Hexagon and have no relationship with Matsudaira family.
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PS: Think both EDs are out...
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Tears....only way to describe it...tears at this piece of heaven
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Old 2011-11-10, 08:42   Link #55
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Some of you might feel that Toori was a jerk reading magazines when everybody was discussing a plan to rescue Horizon. But think about it. Do you REALLY believe that he was reading a magazine at that time? It was obviously just an excuse for Toori to cheer everybody up.
I believe that he was REALLY, REALLY DOWN for the whole time.

Imagine, until yesterday you thought you are gonna live "those ordinary days" forever.

All of a sudden, some reactor melt down, and a world war is about to start.

AND, you discovered that your lover's SOUL is ACTUALLY RESIDING in the look-alike self-operating-doll that you were going to confess to.

AND she is designated to become some sort of super powerful Ultimate weapon.

Then, she was took away RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES.

Today, you heard that she is going to commit suicide on board of some enemy ship.

Then during class, one of your greatest childhood friend, Suzu, cries out to you in tears, "PLEASE SAVE HER!"


I couldn't take it. I would have stormed out of the classroom. I just can't take that much all at once. But boy oh boy, LOOK at Toori.

You see, Toori 's playfulness is not playfulness. By doing his foolish acts, he cheered Suzu up. He cheered everybody up. Heck, with tears still flowing on my face, I was laughing so hard.

Toori 's playfulness is not playfulness. It is the ULTIMATE DISPLAY OF HIS MENTAL STRENGTH.
Damn, jimjimex. your post is almost as touching as the episode itself!
you re absolutely right in your portrait of toori´s attitude. I feel the same way too.
But when you put it in paper, with all the odds against him, its makes complete sense.
kind of reminds me characterization of Lupin III in Miyazaki film. He likes to play the joker, but he has a golden heart inside him.

well, I was one talking about tooris magazine, but precisely because it was the unexpected pun of the episode.

Im still confused about Mito-tsudaira name and lineage. In the episode, something on the lines of what Marcus said was mentioned by Asama Tomo.
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It's really hard to judge Toori's way of thinking here. You thought you know what he's up to, the next thing you know he threw you a curve ball. Granted it's always the same curve ball, but he always throw it at the most unexpected moments.

This kid is really interesting. Need to observe him more.
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Damn, jimjimex. your post is almost as touching as the episode itself!
you re absolutely right in your portrait of toori´s attitude. I feel the same way too.
But when you put it in paper, with all the odds against him, its makes complete sense.
kind of reminds me characterization of Lupin III in Miyazaki film. He likes to play the joker, but he has a golden heart inside him.

well, I was one talking about tooris magazine, but precisely because it was the unexpected pun of the episode.

Im still confused about Mito-tsudaira name and lineage. In the episode, something on the lines of what Marcus said was mentioned by Asama Tomo.
TL;DR Neito is Hexagone Francaise royalty. Due to history recreation, non-Japanese people can have Sengoku era names.
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TL;DR Neito is Hexagone Francaise royalty. Due to history recreation, non-Japanese people can have Sengoku era names.
Oh, I see. Thanks. So, in the continent, every country is a mix of non-japanese people from around the world, and a japanese town, region or clan. So Neitos case is like Garcia de Ceballos taking over the figure of Muneshige Tachibana, thanks to history recreation laws...
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No no, they call her Natto = tofu (misheard her name intentionally)

Neito come from Hexagon and have no relationship with Matsudaira family.

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松平の継承権としては極東の中でも第二位であり、ホライゾンの"自害"が決定した際には極東の新たな主とな ることが決まっていた。
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Well, we know that Ieyasu Tokugawa = Motonobu Matsudaira, and Nate (or Neito) Mitotsudaira is often called as Mito by her classmates, so there's a possibility that Nate's real surname might have been Mito in the past and Mitotsudaira = Mito + (Ma)tsudaira?
Unfortunately, you're wrong too. She is directly related to the Mitomatsudaira clan after her inheritance of the name after coming to Musashi.

Natto isn't tofu.
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Old 2011-11-10, 14:40   Link #60
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Oh, I see. Thanks. So, in the continent, every country is a mix of non-japanese people from around the world, and a japanese town, region or clan. So Neitos case is like Garcia de Ceballos taking over the figure of Muneshige Tachibana, thanks to history recreation laws...
I think it's mostly to provide the cast with Japanese names to make it less confusing for the Japanese readers. Note that some western viewers are most likely extra confused by keeping track of that many Japanese names, but the opposite would be true for the target audience if it was the other way around.
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