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Old 2011-12-08, 01:39   Link #2101
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Also is it me, or are all their names in those images laid out in Western style? Their names somehow don't make 'sense' if read as Japanese style (surname first - given name last). So I can make a joke about Haruna somehow having a cousin plagued with misfortune and an unlucky right hand...
I'll go one step ahead and say that she was that cousin of a certain unlucky noabilityuser who had her face swapped to Misaka during [Angel Fall].

Also, another cousin of her's was crushed on by a magical girl...
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Old 2011-12-08, 05:26   Link #2102
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However the spotlight episode style of development seems to have been more thought out than I gave it credit for. While the standalone focus makes it hard to create any cast interactions and dynamics elsewhere, the way the story's progressed has made its characterization method the only one that can really work anymore. The set-up for Miki's episode, for example, or episodes 18 and 19.

But eh, I've now resigned myself to the fact that iDOLM@STER likes to go between being just enjoyable to something awesome.
Thinking about that approach. I cannot imagine using a different style. Having all the characters "issues" come along at once -- and expecting those issues to interact with one another -- that's like trying to stuff tangled yarn into a series, and expect it to look good. This episodic approach is far more organized and allows viewers to focus on each of them more so.

Yet, the episodic approach does not interfere with the "chronological" development of the whole thing -- by putting in a common "problem" from the idols and the agency. And that problem is, of course: the agency's marketing and development to allow greater opportunities for the girls as their idol popularity grows.
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Old 2011-12-08, 08:55   Link #2103
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It can be difficult to put in the episodic approach due to the nature of trying to integrate larger arcs (e.g. Miki's rise to stardom, RK and Ricchan's roll of the dice) into mini character arcs where the focus is on one idol.

I feel that the series work better when the bonds between the idols are highlighted as opposed to idol - Producer. It's why the Chihaya-Haruka arc from 20 to 22+ work as it tells us of the friendship that the two girls have, admittedly hinted from 4/5.
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Old 2011-12-08, 11:54   Link #2104
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You know, I said last week that I wasn't really excited for this episode, but

HOLY FUCK WTH JUST HAPPENED?!??!?!?.

sorry, I'll write something reasonable later.

Spoiler for THIS IS THE MOST DEPRESSING EPISODE EVER...:
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Old 2011-12-08, 12:13   Link #2105
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Thinking about that approach. I cannot imagine using a different style. Having all the characters "issues" come along at once -- and expecting those issues to interact with one another -- that's like trying to stuff tangled yarn into a series, and expect it to look good. This episodic approach is far more organized and allows viewers to focus on each of them more so.
Except not even all of the characters have any problems, resulting in a spotlight episode or otherwise that's about showing their personality and/or adventures more than solving exclusive drama. Ami and Mami's ep, or Azusa's, for example. Even then, the focus ends up being exclusive to the point where their personalities cannot interact. They could have slowly built up everyone, thus creating dynamics along the way, but still introduce and solve their respective issues when the show calls for it. As it stands though the start and resolution of their conflicts also doubles as development, then puts them out of focus. And for an anime that uses its cast as one of its main draws, not showing them as much as coherently possible is bound to turn away the fans of whoever isn't on-screen.

I just think that the strength of any character-driven show lies more in their relationships compared to one another as opposed to stand-alone focus; a personality can't be distinct in a vacuum because there's nothing with which it can differentiate itself from.
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Old 2011-12-08, 12:34   Link #2106
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You know, I said last week that I wasn't really excited for this episode, but

HOLY FUCK WTH JUST HAPPENED?!??!?!?.

sorry, I'll write something reasonable later.

Spoiler for THIS IS THE MOST DEPRESSING EPISODE EVER...:
WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ!?
Tell me this is a lieeeee fffff

*goes to /a/ and see the same reaction
..well shit. I guess that is true after all or you guys were conspiring against me with such a lie! ;_; Anyway, I can't wait for the sub of this episode. I guess I'll stick with Haruka's avatar until I see the episode myself whether I'll continue support her or not
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Old 2011-12-08, 12:41   Link #2107
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WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ!?
Tell me this is a lieeeee fffff

*goes to /a/ and see the same reaction
..well shit. I guess that is true after all or you guys were conspiring against me with such a lie! ;_; Anyway, I can't wait for the sub of this episode. I guess I'll stick with Haruka's avatar until I see the episode myself whether I'll continue support her or not
No conspirency, it's all true ;-;

Oh and don't stop supporting Haruka, she really needs some love right now and it wasn't her fault DD:

EDIT: I remember Azuma posting this before the episode aired, but..

Spoiler for wow:

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Old 2011-12-08, 12:44   Link #2108
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Think of it this way he truly laid his life down for his girls in every sense! If that is not the stuff from which great fiction is made, then sadly I am not living in the right century.
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Old 2011-12-08, 12:58   Link #2109
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Spoiler for iM@S 23 - A Million Smaller Stories:
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Old 2011-12-08, 13:38   Link #2110
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Don't kill him yet!!!

Fucking dojikos just when you get used to their clumsiness they move to the next step and kills physically you D:<

@Midonin: Are you in denial after this episode?

Ok, I'll go for the "he won't die even if you kill him" alternative.
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Old 2011-12-08, 13:52   Link #2111
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@Midonin: Are you in denial after this episode?
It's not denial, it's philosophizing, world building, trying to grab what lies beyond the edges of the screen. I can do this for any show.
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Old 2011-12-08, 14:10   Link #2112
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Managed to avoid spoilers the last two weeks due to my gallivanting around Skyrim *cough* , and I'll continue to do so this week. Though this particular screencap caught my attention:



WHERE CAN I BUY THAT RAMEN?!?!?!
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Old 2011-12-08, 14:13   Link #2113
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Two can play the same game, Midon .

EDIT:

Episode credits:


Urobuchi Gen.... <---- Wait, what?
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Old 2011-12-08, 14:45   Link #2114
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Wow, did the Producer really get hit by a car or something?
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Old 2011-12-08, 14:46   Link #2115
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Episode credits:
Urobuchi Gen.... <---- Wait, what?
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Old 2011-12-08, 14:56   Link #2116
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Urobuchi Gen.... <---- Wait, what?
First time I've heard of it. Is this really true?
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Old 2011-12-08, 16:22   Link #2117
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Yeah, screenshot the credits please.
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Old 2011-12-08, 16:32   Link #2118
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You know, I said last week that I wasn't really excited for this episode, but

HOLY FUCK WTH JUST HAPPENED?!??!?!?.

sorry, I'll write something reasonable later.

Spoiler for THIS IS THE MOST DEPRESSING EPISODE EVER...:
Sounds depressing, but.....

Your summary made it hard for me to not laugh. Your choice of words made it sound very comical. You know....like a satire?
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Old 2011-12-08, 17:01   Link #2119
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Azuma...what the fuck is this? :I
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Old 2011-12-08, 17:14   Link #2120
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Oh, the irony; I was able to marathon the first 22 eps to catch up to this point... and with an ending like that, I have to wait to see what happens next!

(I suppose it's only fair, considering those of you who have been following the show week-by-week have had to wait already.)

Spoiler for 23:
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