AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Bleach

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2011-12-17, 20:02   Link #41
TrueElements
egotistical enigma
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Montgomery,AL Reborn
Age: 24
Send a message via MSN to TrueElements Send a message via Yahoo to TrueElements
Em...meh........eh............bland is all I can think of.
Ichigo gets new powers from a mystery man to defeat the bad guy> Man steals powers, turns out to be on the evil side> Ichigo gets old powers back even STRONGER, just looks different> Wins.

Throw a few 1-Hit K.O filler pages in-between from the captains, with useless backgrounds for characters we will most likely never see again. I miss you GrimmJaw

And that kids, is the entire arch.
__________________
<a rel=nofollow href=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/requestzu.png/ target=_blank><img src=http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6302/requestzu.png border=0 alt= /></a>
TrueElements is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-17, 23:25   Link #42
White Silver King
The Isley
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
The most disappointing thing this chapter for me, was the loss of Ichigo's post-Dangai Bankai look. He looks like a pirate, not like the epic badass he was against Aizen.
__________________
"Wake up laughing like a prostitute." ...Win...
White Silver King is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-18, 23:00   Link #43
~Yami~
a random Indonesian otaku
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Xanadu
Age: 22
noooo.... don't kill Riruka... xD
__________________

even if you can't see me, even if you can't hear me, I'll be by your side (Kaname Madoka, 2011)
anime list
manga list
~Yami~ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-19, 18:23   Link #44
Prinnydood
Madness Through Sound
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Californiaaaaaa
Age: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Yami~ View Post
noooo.... don't kill Riruka... xD


She won't die just from that haha. She's one of the better characters in this arc though ..
__________________
Prinnydood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-19, 23:58   Link #45
ntherblast
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Is there seriously going to be more arcs after this one?
ntherblast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-20, 04:38   Link #46
Kafriel
Senior Guest
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Athens (GMT+2)
Age: 25
At least one...but bleach is getting milked now, so don't expect much.
__________________
Kafriel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-21, 17:59   Link #47
White Silver King
The Isley
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Quote:
Is there seriously going to be more arcs after this one?
There was supposed to be an Isshin arc, no idea if Kubo's actually gonna follow through though.
__________________
"Wake up laughing like a prostitute." ...Win...
White Silver King is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-21, 18:48   Link #48
Chiisai Kuma
Senior Member
*Artist
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ireland (hello British Bleach fans)
is there going to be a chapter this week?
__________________

sig made by the wonderful Godlike1889
http://forums.animesuki.com/member.php?u=80506
Chiisai Kuma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-21, 22:43   Link #49
White Silver King
The Isley
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
^Nope.....
__________________
"Wake up laughing like a prostitute." ...Win...
White Silver King is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-21, 22:54   Link #50
Chiisai Kuma
Senior Member
*Artist
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ireland (hello British Bleach fans)
D:
nooooooo!!!
__________________

sig made by the wonderful Godlike1889
http://forums.animesuki.com/member.php?u=80506
Chiisai Kuma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-22, 02:11   Link #51
Lord of Pandemonium
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: I'm Dancing & Yelling GANBATTE KAGURA! YOU GO GET YOUR WOMAN BACK!!!!! SHIPPING THEM HARD
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randrak42 View Post
Hmm, just to prove how good and epic this chapter was, look at the latest chapter threads for Naruto and One Piece, then return here. Notice how this one just jumped to page 2 while the rest are around page 4 and 5 xD

Oh Kubo, you and your mediocre and boring arc.
Or maybe the fans just don't find the Bleach discussions in this forum enjoyable due to a massive amounts of comments like yours
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haak View Post
Another sap story thrown in the end at the last minute to try and make us sympathize with the villains. Oh joy.
I really don't think that was Kubo's intention at all. He's merely developing the characters. This chapters also explains why Tsukishima, would follow a guy, he could just bookmark and "make" him is friend

It also connects the "Donuts Chapter" The one a lot of fans complained because they felt Kubo wasted panel time on it and it's also the one that fueled TsuRiru Shippers, because a lot of fans thought that Riruka was thinking about Tsukishima, when Orihime said that it was because she was saved by Ichigo that she could laugh and be happy, despite her hardships.

When it was actually Ginjou, that Riruka and Jackie(when fighting Renji) were referring to.

Also Hollow powers are born from the "soul". Tsukishima's loneliness is a damn good explanation for how his powers came to be. He makes friends

It also shows that their bonds were geniune and not because Ginjou manipulated them for his own gain. It shows how he is different from Aizen

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haak View Post
Also, I hope Riruka didn't just trivialize mind rape. Perhaps it's not as bad as death but it's certainly not something easily forgivable either.
I don't see it that way at all. You can eventually recover from mind rape...or should I say there is a chance you could recover from mind rape but there's no coming back from death
Quote:
Originally Posted by hyl View Post
Besides that this chapter is setting up some background story on Ginjo for next week (and maybe explain his hatred), the final confrontation between Ichigo and Ginjo was in my opinion very weak.
yeah it was not as good as it could have been but I think Kubo had to cut it short due to executive meddling

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiak666 View Post
Hmm, seems like Tsukishima (how he can still move I don't know) did care about some of his comrades even though the guy is shown to be sadistic at times. And looks like Ginjo is a lot older than he appears based on the flashbacks.
You think he's sadistic? I don't think so, he actually seemed compassionate. He felt bad for Ichigo when he was crying.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fukitsu Naruto View Post
-So...Riruka was a chest-burster? Well since she's not Sayzel (or however you spell his damn name), I suppose this isn't so bad. But yeah, Kubo may have been fishing for sympathy for Ginjou but he failed to earn it.
Um, I don't understand. What did Ginjou do that was so bad. I mean sure, he deceived Ichigo and took his Fullbring but I wouldn't call him "evil" or even a "villain"

There have been far worse offenders in Bleach and some of them are actually the "good guys"

Also this chapter gave Tsukishima a Freudian Excuse, not Ginjou. If anything Kubo was fishing for sympathy for Tsukishima not Ginjou
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kafriel View Post
ll...or even worse, GT.
HALLELUJAH!!! Personally I want GT to DIE!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solace View Post
It might solve a few mysteries, like how a substitute shinigami even came into existence (assuming Ginjo was the first and Ichigo is the second), what made Ginjo become so "evil", why Soul Society didn't deal with this problem before Ichigo appeared, why they didn't smack Ichigo down right away if they were worried about another Ginjo, etc.
Er...that was explained already. It wasn't really a mystery since KT explained in the chapter following the the BIG reveal


Quote:
Originally Posted by sayde View Post
I'm still trying to understand why Bankai Ichigo was able to quickly & easily defeat Bankai hollow powered Ginjou when shikai Ichigo stalemated pre-bankai Ginjou. The whole thing would've made a lot more sense to me if Shikai Ichigo curbstomped Ginjou so badly that he was forced to go Bankai first. I'm also finding it difficult to care about the flashbacks which are to soon occur regarding characters I never really cared for up till now. So I'm curious to see if Kubo has what it takes to make me suddenly give a damn. We'll see...
Shikai Ichigo didn't stalemate, he overwhelmed GJ with a practice swing and a getsuga tensho. He didn't have to go bankai imo but for some reason he felt he had. Although he usually goes bankai first because he's a one-trick pony --BUT he was handling Ginjou in Shikai and then bankai. It was Ginjou who "had" to go bankai not Ichigo



Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus H. View Post
I think Ginjo's defeat while in Hollow-Bankai mode proves one thing: You don't defeat the original with a fake one. Ginjou was only able to transform because he sucked away Ichigo fullbring powers. Without it, the fight would have ended in the mansion.
He didn't take his fullbring powers--took the badge away. The badge was necessary to use "fulbring" but Ginjou didn't take away the ability to Fullbring



Ah I had so much more I planned to say, but I stopped caring since you guys are never ever serious about actually discussing the chapters and Bleach in general as you are about bashing it.

So I'm ghost
Lord of Pandemonium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-22, 04:30   Link #52
Haak
F**k my life...
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Age: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of Pandemonium View Post
I really don't think that was Kubo's intention at all. He's merely developing the characters. This chapters also explains why Tsukishima, would follow a guy, he could just bookmark and "make" him is friend

It also connects the "Donuts Chapter" The one a lot of fans complained because they felt Kubo wasted panel time on it and it's also the one that fueled TsuRiru Shippers, because a lot of fans thought that Riruka was thinking about Tsukishima, when Orihime said that it was because she was saved by Ichigo that she could laugh and be happy, despite her hardships.

When it was actually Ginjou, that Riruka and Jackie(when fighting Renji) were referring to.

Also Hollow powers are born from the "soul". Tsukishima's loneliness is a damn good explanation for how his powers came to be. He makes friends

It also shows that their bonds were geniune and not because Ginjou manipulated them for his own gain. It shows how he is different from Aizen
None of this is really relevant to my point but whatever...

Quote:
I don't see it that way at all. You can eventually recover from mind rape...or should I say there is a chance you could recover from mind rape but there's no coming back from death
Lol, you can possibly recover from mind rape? Really i would've thought mind rape is even worse than actual rape but since no one has ever been mind raped before then I guess it's impossible to say. In any case Riruka still made it sound like it was no big deal. I got the impression that she was saying it was harmless, in what was Kubo's attempt to whitewash Tsukishima's dickery so he could suddenly make him more sympathetic in a rather lame "Oh but he never wanted to kill anyone so deep down he actually a nice guy!"-like excuse.
__________________
MyAnimeList
Avatar - Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
Signature - Gundam Reconguista in G

Last edited by Haak; 2011-12-22 at 05:52.
Haak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-22, 05:47   Link #53
kiak666
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Malaysia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of Pandemonium View Post
You think he's sadistic? I don't think so, he actually seemed compassionate. He felt bad for Ichigo when he was crying.
Sorry, but seeing how he causes mental damage to Chad and Inoue with that kind of smirk on his face does not qualifies him as sadistic, I don't know what will.
kiak666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-22, 09:40   Link #54
Mr. DJ
Schwing!
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Central Texas
Age: 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of Pandemonium View Post
Ah I had so much more I planned to say, but I stopped caring since you guys are never ever serious about actually discussing the chapters
"stop hating what I like"

Quote:
You think he's sadistic? I don't think so, he actually seemed compassionate. He felt bad for Ichigo when he was crying.
Ginjou to Tsukishima, "Don't screw with their past now! If you do, they won't be of any help! You've already destroyed too many people so far." Then we get a panel of Inoue and Chad starting to break down from Tsukishima's mind rape.

I hardly doubt he felt bad for discarding a tool they had no use for, regardless of saying "I feel horrible." His facial expression didn't convey anything implying feeling horrible.

Quote:
What did Ginjou do that was so bad. I mean sure, he deceived Ichigo and took his Fullbring but I wouldn't call him "evil" or even a "villain"
Cut off Ishida's arm.
Trained Ichigo just so he could steal his powers.
Saying they should kill Shishigawara after the battle was over because his power was troubling.

Quote:
Shikai Ichigo didn't stalemate, he overwhelmed GJ with a practice swing and a getsuga tensho. He didn't have to go bankai imo but for some reason he felt he had. Although he usually goes bankai first because he's a one-trick pony --BUT he was handling Ginjou in Shikai and then bankai. It was Ginjou who "had" to go bankai not Ichigo
Ichigo w/ Shikai was overwhelming Ginjou w/out Shikai. When Ginjou did use his Shikai, the brief fight w/ Ichigo at the time, was even, with no clear victor.

The only thing that bothered me about their fight was simply this:

Bankai Ichigo > Bankai Hollow Ginjou

Given Ichigo's other massive showdowns, this should NOT have ended that fast.

Last edited by Mr. DJ; 2011-12-22 at 10:38.
Mr. DJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-22, 15:29   Link #55
sayde
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of Pandemonium View Post
Shikai Ichigo didn't stalemate, he overwhelmed GJ with a practice swing and a getsuga tensho.
Its as if you stopped paying attention to the parts of their battle scattered from chapter 462 to 474.
Anyways, they really did stalemate--with Ishida's help no less. The fight was going no where fast after Ginjou's first release. In fact, he felt confident enough to claim he could "easily wipe the floor with" the both of them. So I can sort of see why Ichigo went Bankai first.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of Pandemonium View Post
It was Ginjou who "had" to go bankai not Ichigo
Yes...but only after Ichigo took the advantage by going Bankai first.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. DJ View Post
The only thing that bothered me about their fight was simply this:

Bankai Ichigo > Bankai Hollow Ginjou

Given Ichigo's other massive showdowns, this should NOT have ended that fast.
Pretty much ^^this^^.
sayde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-23, 04:46   Link #56
rei_ayanami17
Agent 0017
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: in Gin Ichimaru's heart
Age: 22
^ hmm… I thought Ginjou is just being cocky and arrogant when he said that he can "easily wipe the floor with” both of them back there?!?.....

I actually expect that their fight will ended fast since you know, I’ve been underestimating Ginjou and this fullbringers from the start,,,…and well, I guess I’m right……from the point where Ginjou realize how much more powerful Ichigo compare to him when Rukia stab him with that edgeless sword…that’s why he try to run and escape but unfortunately he’s caught…..so he just focused on plan B,…..confused Ichigo’s resolve, say the truth about SS, make him in his side, let Ichigo hate SS and etc.,,,but that plan didn’t work either so this is the result.

So I think this is fine, there’s no point to drag too long the fight since I guess, this is just an introduction to Ichigo’s new regain power… and his training with the Fullbringer don’t give him any damn benefits at all.

Ah yeah, about the Bankai Ichigo vs Bankai Hollow Ginjou.
I just think that maybe Ginjou’s releasing his Bankai is just a force. I also think that he doesn’t have his own shinigami power at all. It’s just his own Fullbring + Ichigo’s fullbring …..so his fullbring=hollow power and ichigo’s fullbring = hollow power that is born from shinigami power……so if Ichigo can go Bankai, he can force himself to go Bankai too without his own shinigami power, just Ichigo’s……and we’ve had enough to say that what he steal from Ichigo is not enough and weak to defeat what was given to Ichigo…...argh, do I make sense?lol

Sigh, the cliffhanger does not make me excite at all……. I wonder If I can still keep up reading Bleach up to next year……but anyways, I still have my positive thinking, hopefully we’ll get more descent chapters next year,……..ah yeah, hoping to see Uruhara and Isshin….^^
__________________

Ichimaru Gin
rei_ayanami17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-23, 05:39   Link #57
Alchemist007
自分のチームにいるよ。
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: USA
Age: 25
As much as I enjoyed Tsuki brainwashing damn near everyone earlier on, this arc doesn't have enough behind it, even if it's a prelude to a bigger problem. Some characters are enjoyable, but there's not enough clout in this.
__________________
Alchemist007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-25, 10:45   Link #58
Chiisai Kuma
Senior Member
*Artist
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ireland (hello British Bleach fans)
Happy holidays everyone!!!!! party time!!!!!!
__________________

sig made by the wonderful Godlike1889
http://forums.animesuki.com/member.php?u=80506
Chiisai Kuma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2011-12-26, 09:59   Link #59
SidVicious
Anime addict
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: São Paulo/Brazil
Age: 37
New chapter is out
__________________
SidVicious is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:43.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.