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Old 2011-12-26, 09:15   Link #941
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I thought it was the fact that lancer got trolled in every route of Fate/Stay Night.
Like when fighting Saber:
Lancer: Take my 1 hit KO move! Gae Bolg
Saber: I live! (because I am luckier than you.)
Lancer:

Or vs Archer:
Lancer: Take this! My Stronger version of Gae Bolg that will most definitely kill you!
Archer: Rho Aius!
Lancer:

These are only few of the examples.
Let's get more of these rollin'

vs Gil:
Lancer: I decided to betray you because you're a jerk!
Gil: Whoa, hey. I have this Caladbolg here...
Lancer:

vs Kirei:
Lancer: I won't let you do as you please!
Kirei: I command you to stab yourself
Lancer:
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Old 2011-12-26, 10:35   Link #942
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^ Doesn't Lancer get's eaten in heaven's feel while fighting assassin?

I think it's Gae Bolg vs Zabaniya then got eaten.
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Old 2011-12-26, 12:04   Link #943
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being Lancer is suffering
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Old 2011-12-26, 15:13   Link #944
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Let's get more of these rollin'

vs Gil:
Lancer: I decided to betray you because you're a jerk!
Gil: Whoa, hey. I have this Caladbolg here...
Lancer:

vs Kirei:
Lancer: I won't let you do as you please!
Kirei: I command you to stab yourself
Lancer:
Lancer: I only joined this war to fight strong opponents!
Kirei: Observe other servants and avoid battle as much as possible.
Lancer:
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Old 2011-12-27, 11:16   Link #945
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^ Doesn't Lancer get's eaten in heaven's feel while fighting assassin?

I think it's Gae Bolg vs Zabaniya then got eaten.
It was more of:
Lancer: What is that thing?
True Assasin: *Zabanya*
*Lancer Dies*
*Lancer eaten by tentacle monster*
Didn't even have a chance to be sad.
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Old 2011-12-28, 04:03   Link #946
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Hm. I didn't realize the soundtrack was out. It's a lot of fun

edit: videos have been removed from youtube, but you can still find the soundtrack on the internet.
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Old 2011-12-28, 10:08   Link #947
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Old 2011-12-29, 08:27   Link #948
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Well look at this.

Carnival Phantasm's 3rd Season Includes Fate/Prototype
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Old 2011-12-29, 09:32   Link #949
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Yeah, that'll definitely be interesting since none of the characters (other than Saber) seem to be the same person. Curious what heroes the "new/old" Archer, Lancer, and Rider will be.
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Old 2011-12-29, 13:08   Link #950
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Old 2011-12-29, 14:11   Link #951
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Was that what I think it was, next to Lancer?
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Old 2011-12-29, 15:51   Link #952
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Was that what I think it was, next to Lancer?
Maybe lancer won his own Holy Grail.
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Old 2011-12-29, 16:13   Link #953
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I see more Tsukihime stuff there. Good news, good news.
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Old 2011-12-29, 21:08   Link #954
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No, not even on the battlefield. The joke is that Lancer gets killed in the Holy Grail War in any route on Fate/Stay Night.
...isn't that truth for every Servant (aside of Rider in HF and Saber in the Good End of UBW. Rider in UBW got the worst Worf-like death in all the Servants)? Lancer usually is one of the last Servants to be killed, except in HF. Berserker and Caster are usually dispatched before him.

Spoiler for f/ha:
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Old 2011-12-29, 21:12   Link #955
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...isn't that truth for every Servant (aside of Rider in HF and Saber in the Good End of UBW. Rider in UBW got the worst Worf-like death in all the Servants)? Lancer usually is one of the last Servants to be killed, except in HF. Berserker and Caster are usually dispatched before him.
it is not when you are kill but how.

Lancer has the most pathetic death of any Servant.
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Old 2011-12-29, 21:22   Link #956
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it is not when you are kill but how.

Lancer has the most pathetic death of any Servant.

What...?

Lancer dies fighting nicely most of the times: two out of three, he goes in a big damn heroes moment. Off-screen in Fate, but goes as hero saving Saber's and Shirou's lives (the DEEN anime made that death more impressive than whatever they did for poor Berserker in the UBW movie UGH). Saving Rin's life and chastity in UBW, having his heart pierced, yet still managing to kill Kirei, punch Shinji, untie Rin and burn down the castle so Kotomine won't come back from his death this time. In HF, he is surprised by Assassin and the Shadow, like dunno, Saber.

Caster gets dismissed and swordrained on Fate, sword-rained in UBW (at her back), etc. And that dumb LOL THIS SWORD KILLS YOU 6-7 TIMES BERSERKER! (Berserker is like the Worf of FSN ) Let's not even talk to how Rider died in UBW. That was the worst Servant death ever. She was decapitated off screen by Kuzuki with Caster's help. Poor Rider.

Just because they picked this up from him doesn't mean his FSN deaths were unlucky or pathetic, they were actually... better than most for a character without plot armor like Archer (temporal outside his route) and Saber have.
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Old 2011-12-29, 21:35   Link #957
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Isn't a matter of how or when but luck... . He gets some suffering before dying tough.

Maybe people pities Lancer because he got more support from the fanbase.
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Old 2011-12-29, 21:54   Link #958
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...isn't that truth for every Servant (aside of Rider in HF and Saber in the Good End of UBW. Rider in UBW got the worst Worf-like death in all the Servants)? Lancer usually is one of the last Servants to be killed, except in HF. Berserker and Caster are usually dispatched before him.

Spoiler for f/ha:
Berserker and Caster are always built up to be antagonists. Lancer, however, is ultimately a good guy who gets nothing good.

To an extent, both Berserker and Caster also do what they want to do. Berserker dies under Ilya's command, and Caster dies trying to find a way to prolong her stay with Souichirou.

Lancer doesn't really get to do what he wants. In Fate and UBW, he gets betrayed by his own Master.
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Old 2011-12-29, 22:07   Link #959
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Isn't a matter of how or when but luck... . He gets some suffering before dying tough.
Does he? He seems perfectly fine with his deaths in UBW and Fate... Specially in UBW.

As for luck, Archer and true Assassin have E ranked luck too. As does Rider when she's under Sakura.

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Berserker and Caster are always built up to be antagonists. Lancer, however, is ultimately a good guy who gets nothing good.
...Lancer kills Shirou in the very prologue. How come he's built up to be a 'good guy' from the get go? He's the very first antagonist.

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To an extent, both Berserker and Caster also do what they want to do. Berserker dies under Ilya's command, and Caster dies trying to find a way to prolong her stay with Souichirou.

Lancer doesn't really get to do what he wants. In Fate and UBW, he gets betrayed by his own Master.
Kotomine's not his real Master, he dies sticking it to the Man who killed his true Master (his demise in his route in Fate/UC is pretty peaceful and doing what he wanted, by the way. He just disappears after avenging Bazett just as he wanted to do), both in Fate and UBW. In particular the later where he got to finally kill him. So yeah, while I like the running gag, I don't think it has any FSN basis for it (just the same about everyone, really. Their lives sucked, specially Archer's)? It's from Take Moon, that's all.
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Old 2011-12-29, 22:24   Link #960
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Does he? He seems perfectly fine with his deaths in UBW and Fate... Specially in UBW.

As for luck, Archer and true Assassin have E ranked luck too. As does Rider when she's under Sakura.



...Lancer kills Shirou in the very prologue. How come he's built up to be a 'good guy' from the get go? He's the very first antagonist.



Kotomine's not his real Master, he dies sticking it to the Man who killed his true Master (his demise in his route in Fate/UC is pretty peaceful and doing what he wanted, by the way. He just disappears after avenging Bazett just as he wanted to do), both in Fate and UBW. In particular the later where he got to finally kill him. So yeah, while I like the running gag, I don't think it has any FSN basis for it? It's from Take Moon, that's all.
Whether Lancer got the last laugh or not, dying from a Command (in UBW route) to kill yourself is pretty pathetic. So is dying offscreen in Fate, and being ambushed in HF by the shadow. That's far different from Gilgamesh or Berserker, who both usually die on screen after an extended battle that was shown.
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