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Old 2011-12-29, 05:50   Link #1681
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Honestly, though.. there's no way adult mode should be healthy for her natural development.

Vivio is a special case, but when other people are doing it... you have to wonder what they are sacrificing
I don't see why not. Spending long periods of time as a ferret did nothing to weaken Yuuno either after all. And it's not as if she's skipping out on training in her younger form either.

I'm with RD here, it's just transformation magic. Not some super secret only accessible by Belkan royalty kind of thing.
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Old 2011-12-29, 09:21   Link #1682
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IIRC, Vivio's greatest strength is her processing power

Her lag-time for Divine Buster caliber spells is insanely brief, and hits hard

this is why she is a counter attack specialist, a trait that is mentioned by Touma in the Nanoha PSP game
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Old 2011-12-29, 13:32   Link #1683
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I don't see why not. Spending long periods of time as a ferret did nothing to weaken Yuuno either after all. And it's not as if she's skipping out on training in her younger form either.

I'm with RD here, it's just transformation magic. Not some super secret only accessible by Belkan royalty kind of thing.
Agreed. The royalty thing is that I beleive they made the spell genetically inuitive, so that no one would have to teach Vivio (or Olivie, Klaus or Einhart) the spell.

Or is Adult Mode supposed to be different from Sankt Kaiser Mode? If so, then Sankt Kaiser Mode, and the Kaiser Armor, are the genetic additions.
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Old 2011-12-29, 13:43   Link #1684
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Sankt Kiaser mode is Vivio connected to the Cradle and it empowering her and downloading stuff into her head for combat, if I recall.
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Old 2011-12-29, 15:11   Link #1685
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Sankt Kiaser mode is Vivio connected to the Cradle and it empowering her and downloading stuff into her head for combat, if I recall.
Downloading stuff? You mean like the spells that the Nanoha wiki tells me she learned totally on her own just from watching videos of other mages casting them in battle?
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Old 2011-12-29, 16:02   Link #1686
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Was it really necessary to photoshop Olivie's face for that?
Hey, all I did was move her pupils nine pixels over, in MS Paint. One minute of work. Her facial expression does the rest.

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...what's the point of adding DERP to something you made look derpy?
Oh come on, you've seen chapter 29 already. I barely had to do anything for that.

Which could be kinda strange, considering that there was nothing wrong with her appearance during the first flashback with Claus or that painting of her, but then again, sometimes mangaka just get worse with time.
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Old 2011-12-29, 16:14   Link #1687
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Downloading stuff? You mean like the spells that the Nanoha wiki tells me she learned totally on her own just from watching videos of other mages casting them in battle?
There's that, but there was also a Cradle defense program running to assist her in combat. That's what took over when the reactor got hammered.
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Old 2011-12-29, 17:07   Link #1688
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You could make anyone look freaky moving their pupils by that much.
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Old 2011-12-29, 21:31   Link #1689
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I'm not expecting or asking anything to change when I complain about this, buuuut...

It's kind of annoying to have people openly discussing what happens 7+ chapters after the chapters which are translated into English -- the ones I can actually read.

Means that I have to completely avoid this thread if I want to be somewhat surpised when the next chapter is available in a language I can understand.
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Old 2011-12-30, 03:26   Link #1690
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So, when are we going to get to see Rio fight anyone?
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Old 2011-12-31, 18:24   Link #1691
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If I were to guess, I'm guessing they are reserving the witch girl for her

edit: Lio is in the same group as banchou girl (Harry Tribecca)
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Old 2011-12-31, 19:19   Link #1692
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I've have sort of a feeling that Witch-girl will fight against Lutecia xD
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Old 2011-12-31, 20:58   Link #1693
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Oh, good call

I almost forgot Lutecia existed...

...

what?

I'm sure I'm not the only one
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Old 2011-12-31, 20:58   Link #1694
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Oh, good call

I almost forgot Lutecia existed...

...

what?

I'm sure I'm not the only one
Isn't it sad, Lutecchin?
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Old 2011-12-31, 21:24   Link #1695
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I won't forget about her, and surely hope for it to be a glamorous battle xD! Lu-chan my be not the strongest but she's such a show off i'm pretty sure her battles will be plenty of entertainment xD
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Old 2011-12-31, 23:38   Link #1696
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I wonder what a summoner does in a duel in a small circle. Can't really go all out with tank bugs or kaiju bugs. Does she handicap herself to just teaming up with Garyu?
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Old 2011-12-31, 23:40   Link #1697
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Well, that's neater than if Caro had ever joined. Her smallest summon is still bigger than a car.
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Old 2011-12-31, 23:46   Link #1698
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I wonder what a summoner does in a duel in a small circle. Can't really go all out with tank bugs or kaiju bugs. Does she handicap herself to just teaming up with Garyu?
Well, the translation isn't there yet, but Corona and Einhart had an epic battle that tore the arena apart.
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Old 2011-12-31, 23:52   Link #1699
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Lutecia still has offensive spells of her own, such as Todesdolch, Shockwave, and Reflect Mirage. She can fight without Garyuu.
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Old 2012-01-01, 01:23   Link #1700
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I don't think the DSAA rules are clear regarding familiars

The true witch clearly had a few familiars with her

perhaps it's like golem creation

if you can summon them during battle it's fine, but probably only if they don't go over a certain limit

because Lutecia summoning her dragon wouldn't be fair
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