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Old 2012-01-08, 17:44   Link #261
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Favorite part was the shootout at the end. Ririka is the best though.
Yeah liked the shootout, and Ririka was awesome throughout! (I also really liked how they even added more to her character at the last minute and what she's currently doing by cutting to her in what looks like a military uniform).

I also had fun with the suited thugs showing up, it feels like I haven't seen that done like that in ages.

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That was so much better than I expected! Some cool-looking futuristic technology, the heroine showing some actual competence (such as with her piloting sequence) rather than being the usual sort of happy-go-lucky complete ditz that usually fills the role, entertaining supporting characters (Ririka! ), a few mysteries (Why is the Bentenmaru still practicing privateering when most of the cast thinks that privateering is something that went on back in history only? Who is Chiaki and what are her secrets? Who is the guy after Marika?) to make me want to come back next week and learn the answers, and a distinct lack of obtrusively annoying fanservice makes me really happy.

Intriguingly enough, the background about the use of privateering to help buoy the navy during Sea of the Morningstar's war of independence strongly parallels the United States of America during both the War of Independence and the War of 1812, where American privateers took a major toll on British shipping and inflicted considerable economic damage...
Yeah I really liked the set up, scifi tech/setting, mysteries, etc.

Loved that about Marika.

I was totally surprised by the lack of obtrusively annoying fanservice.
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Old 2012-01-08, 19:03   Link #262
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does this show have yuri in it?
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Old 2012-01-08, 19:06   Link #263
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That was way better than I was expecting, really, so I'm eagerly awaiting the next episode, even if it should be called "Bodacious Space Privateers" - but then I guess 'Privateer' is less commercially viable than 'Pirate'!!

I approve of the fact that while they had opportunities for fanservice they avoided them. This gives me hope for the storyline. 26 episodes should give it time to develop nicely.
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Old 2012-01-08, 20:01   Link #264
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I'm glad to know my expectations of this show was correct. A great sci-fi anime and a tribute to old space opera animes.

I got hooked with the 1st episode, the characters are interesting and the story has potential. Can't wait for next week!
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That was a lot of fun.

Oh man you guys were right with early feedback on the ep, this felt like exactly what I've been missing and hoping it would be, that bit of oldschool but updated, big scifi action adventure show with top notch modern visuals, we haven't even gotten to space yet and I was locked in by the natural pacing and nicely realized scifi setting and tech for the setting and quickly likeable characters. Marika pulled off being the MC quite well in the premiere and I love her design.

Really loved the music track that opened the episode! Nice supporting background music for the light stuff, loved the bits of more noticeable music throughout and towards the end, can't wait to hear the bigger tracks as we go forward. Like ShioiRyu, really got into the up-beat OP/ED.

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Man I miss shows like this.

This (obviously potentially since we'll see once they get into space and get the real space action but with how like-ably they handled one of the hardest parts I'm quite hopeful) and Last Exile: GnF have finally delivered the action adventures we used to get a lot more often, feels great getting two of these in back-to-back seasons.



Hmmm...I'll just let that one pass for crazy talk or that you're someone who never saw more of FMA in dubbed form since english dubbed Mustang is badass.
Definitely agree.

I enjoyed the first episode more than I should have. Like others mentioned above, it's like a homage to the space operas of the 80s, 90s. Memories of my childhood came back to me. Aside from mecha and mahou shoujo, I've been a fan of these kind of anime shows for a long time. I would have thought this genre died a long time ago.

The characters are cute and likable so far especially Marika. It reminded me partly of Yamamoto Yohko and Sora wo Kake Girl for some reason, but I'm sure there's more to it than that. I'm really looking forward to the next episode now.
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Old 2012-01-08, 20:10   Link #265
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Old 2012-01-08, 20:21   Link #266
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Well the only remain Privateers if they are still working (legally) under a government. If they are no longer under a contract, and still prey on ships "at sea" or attack anything, then they are Pirates.

Of course in anime there are variations on pirates. There is the traditional pirate out for money, and then there is the Matsumoto pirate out because he is (fight the good fight, be a man about it, don't give a damn what the Earth governement has to say about it)....see pretty much any version of Captain Harlock or Queen Emeraldas for reference.
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Old 2012-01-08, 21:42   Link #267
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This is my next Star Driver for me so far, a show with a ton of characters with part school life and part action pack with an awesome setting. Apart from Last Exile, I hope this becomes my second main show.
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Old 2012-01-08, 21:54   Link #268
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Old 2012-01-08, 22:01   Link #269
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After some hesitation, I'm going to give this show a try.
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Old 2012-01-08, 22:13   Link #270
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Maybe I am getting a little too worked up about all the complaining for what seems to be no other reason but to complain.



Seriously? I really don't know why people keep coming back to this one scene and comparing it to Madoka?

The mysterious transfer student plot device thing has been done to death in anime for decades...
Oh yes, mysterious transfer students are common, but the tone and style of introducing the mysterious transfer student was very Madoka.

It's to be expected that a huge hit like Madoka is going to have some impact on other animes. Just as Evangelion, and Haruhi, and Fullmetal Alchemist did.

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quite an interesting anime. I really want to know how pirates can be legal. How can it work in this universe?
Wikipedia knows all about it.


John Paul Jones
from the Revolutionary War is probably the most famous American "legal pirate". (And I'm guessing that the American privateers from the War of Independence is the historical inspiration for the legal Space Pirates in this show). JP Jones actually attacked England.

Of course, technically JP Jones was an actual naval officer, not a privateer or a pirate, but the English all labeled him a pirate.


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With a title like "Space pirates in miniskirt", I expected the worst, but it was surprisingly good. It does have that "old" anime feel which nowadays feels fresh. I'm not completely sold on it yet since I'm not entirely sure which direction the show will take, but this first episode definitely piqued my interest. It seems like it could really be "Harlock in miniskirt".

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Definitely agree.

I enjoyed the first episode more than I should have. Like others mentioned above, it's like a homage to the space operas of the 80s, 90s. Memories of my childhood came back to me. Aside from mecha and mahou shoujo, I've been a fan of these kind of anime shows for a long time. I would have thought this genre died a long time ago.

The characters are cute and likable so far especially Marika. It reminded me partly of Yamamoto Yohko and Sora wo Kake Girl for some reason, but I'm sure there's more to it than that. I'm really looking forward to the next episode now.
Funny enough I think the story premise reminds me more of the book Treasure Island then any of the old anime space adventures.

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Well the only remain Privateers if they are still working (legally) under a government. If they are no longer under a contract, and still prey on ships "at sea" or attack anything, then they are Pirates.

Of course in anime there are variations on pirates. There is the traditional pirate out for money, and then there is the Matsumoto pirate out because he is (fight the good fight, be a man about it, don't give a damn what the Earth governement has to say about it)....see pretty much any version of Captain Harlock or Queen Emeraldas for reference.
My guess is going to be that the governments screwed up when issuing the Letters of Marque and issued them in perpetuity, with a clause for inheritance, and no clause covering revocation. I'm assuming the war was expected to last several generations and that the privateers were expected to act independently without resupply or communication with the issuing government. (Not that unrealistic considering historical privateers).

The government probably failed to take into account the idea that they would win and that the privateers would be unwilling to relinquish their letters of Marque.
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Old 2012-01-08, 22:58   Link #271
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I came into this expecting Kampfer... in Space! With Pirates!

And that probably would have been fun.

But what I actually did get was something that I think I'll end up appreciating a fair bit more: And that's a serious sci-fi action/adventure story with excellent characterization within a show that'll be more than a guilty pleasure for me.


The first half of Episode 1 was a bit slow in some ways, but it did do a great job of setting up what was to come, and probably the series as a whole. The second half of Episode 1 was loads of fun and I thoroughly enjoyed it.


I love the new kuudere/mysterious transfer student! Yes, I almost instantly saw the Homura inspiration as well, but hey, there's far worse characters for new anime characters to be inspired by than Homura.

The scene of Waitress Mariko being the object of attention of numerous "shiny glasses" thugs - Not because she's a waitress, but because of what people expect her to become - was great! Really funny scene, that provided some nice comedy and a decent cliffhanger to end the episode off with.


I wasn't totally blown away by Bodacious Space Pirates, but I will say this, these Space Pirates do indeed seem Bodacious so far. Now, I hope to see Mariko herself become a Space Pirate soon, ideally no later than Episode 3.


8/10 for Episode 1.
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Old 2012-01-08, 23:25   Link #272
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But what I actually did get was something that I think I'll end up appreciating a fair bit more: And that's a serious sci-fi action/adventure story with excellent characterization within a show that'll be more than a guilty pleasure for me.
It feels as if -- it's been a long long time since anything like that had come up. Especially with all this moe, slice-of-life stuff that had been coming out the most recent previous years.
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Old 2012-01-08, 23:38   Link #273
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Or at least, no yuri between Mari and Chiaki. Biggest way to kill my interest.


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Look up the history on "Privateers". This is something I managed to pick up from... I believe... Civilization III.
Holy crap I feel old. My first foray into Privateers/Letter of Marque was with the age old classic, "Pirates!", complete with beeping weird noises from the PC speaker.

So yeah, not at all unfamiliar with 'legal pirates' and all, since I played an 'honorable privateer' in that game by raiding everyone but one country. Hated by everyone else, but man, treated like a king in settlements by that country. Good ol'times.
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Old 2012-01-08, 23:44   Link #274
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Haa....

Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Bentenmaru. Its 2-cour mission: to raid ships of their precious cargo, LEGALLY. To boldly go where no schoolgirl(daughter of two Pirate Captains) in a miniskirt has gone before....
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Old 2012-01-08, 23:45   Link #275
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My guess is going to be that the governments screwed up when issuing the Letters of Marque and issued them in perpetuity, with a clause for inheritance, and no clause covering revocation. I'm assuming the war was expected to last several generations and that the privateers were expected to act independently without resupply or communication with the issuing government. (Not that unrealistic considering historical privateers).

The government probably failed to take into account the idea that they would win and that the privateers would be unwilling to relinquish their letters of Marque.
Well from what we know in universe 100 years ago Marika’s colony world Sea of the Morningstar revolted against its ruler, the Stellar Alliance. As part of its war strategy it issued Letters of Marque allowing piracy against their colonial rulers. Apparently this went swimmingly, since the war was won in a yet-to-be-revealed surprising way.

My theory the pirates were decisive in ending the war, so for political reasons the new government couldn’t simply cancel the Letters of Marque. But it was extremely awkward for the government to continue to sanction piracy going forward, so they added a qualification that each Letter could only be passed on to a direct descendant. Piracy having high workplace mortality figures, this resulted in exponentially decreasing numbers of “legal pirates” each year. Today there are very few Letters-of-Marque holders alive, but there are still wanna-be crooks and freeloaders. Anybody holding such a Letter would be a license to print money for any would-be pirates. So the guys in the cafe are their to press-gang Marika not injure her.
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Well from what we know in universe 100 years ago Marika’s colony world Sea of the Morningstar revolted against its ruler, the Stellar Alliance. As part of its war strategy it issued Letters of Marque allowing piracy against their colonial rulers. Apparently this went swimmingly, since the war was won in a yet-to-be-revealed surprising way.

My theory the pirates were decisive in ending the war, so for political reasons the new government couldn’t simply cancel the Letters of Marque. But it was extremely awkward for the government to continue to sanction piracy going forward, so they added a qualification that each Letter could only be passed on to a direct descendant. Piracy having high workplace mortality figures, this resulted in exponentially decreasing numbers of “legal pirates” each year. Today there are very few Letters-of-Marque holders alive, but there are still wanna-be crooks and freeloaders. Anybody holding such a Letter would be a license to print money for any would-be pirates. So the guys in the cafe are their to press-gang Marika not injure her.
Pressgang as in making Marika give up her license, or steal it or force her to be their captain instead?
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Old 2012-01-08, 23:59   Link #277
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Pressgang as in making Marika give up her license, or steal it or force her to be their captain instead?
Yea something like yes...just more on the please hire us side.
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Old 2012-01-09, 01:13   Link #278
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Well, that didn't really sound like Kana Hanazawa ^^* Anyway, I have hope that this well end up being more than just "last season's guilty pleasure"! But even if it doesn't....who cares? Space pirates in miniskirts, LET'S DO THIS! FIND ONE PIECE!
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Old 2012-01-09, 02:26   Link #279
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Oh yes, mysterious transfer students are common, but the tone and style of introducing the mysterious transfer student was very Madoka.

It's to be expected that a huge hit like Madoka is going to have some impact on other animes. Just as Evangelion, and Haruhi, and Fullmetal Alchemist did.
As much as I also went "wait is this Homura....but voiced by Hanakana?AWESOME!!" I doubt Madoka was an influence,it's more like a coincidence.

The novels this are based on came out before madoka aired and this has been in developement since 2009.
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Old 2012-01-09, 03:50   Link #280
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It feels as if -- it's been a long long time since anything like that had come up. Especially with all this moe, slice-of-life stuff that had been coming out the most recent previous years.
Could not agree more, feels like it's been forever since we've had these.

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Haa....

Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Bentenmaru. Its 2-cour mission: to raid ships of their precious cargo, LEGALLY. To boldly go where no schoolgirl(daughter of two Pirate Captains) in a miniskirt has gone before....


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