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Old 2012-01-12, 13:32   Link #421
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Now THAT will be an awesome movie xD!
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Old 2012-01-12, 17:39   Link #422
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I think it's possible that the second movie will end with Reinforce still alive, and the third movie will feature the Dark Pieces and Materials.
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Old 2012-01-12, 18:09   Link #423
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There's a third Nanoha movie?!
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Old 2012-01-12, 18:34   Link #424
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There's a third Nanoha movie?!
Nope. We're just wishing upon a star xD!
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Old 2012-01-12, 18:40   Link #425
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I can't remember the last time a sequel wasn't followed by another sequel.
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Old 2012-01-12, 18:41   Link #426
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I can't remember the last time a sequel wasn't followed by another sequel.
Terminator 2 for almost a decade xD!
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Old 2012-01-12, 18:59   Link #427
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I think it's possible that the second movie will end with Reinforce still alive, and the third movie will feature the Dark Pieces and Materials.
Doubt it. I'm expecting commentary from the In-universe Post-Striker casts for this movie. I doubt they could do any of that along with the Soundstage's "Making of" if they do this.

Speaking of which, if the ending to this movie ends the same way as the tv then I would like Vivio,Einhart, Touma, and Lily scratching their heads in confusion as to why it fells wrong.
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Old 2012-01-12, 21:22   Link #428
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I think it's possible that the second movie will end with Reinforce still alive, and the third movie will feature the Dark Pieces and Materials.
*resisting urge to comment on a certain detail* ^^;
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Old 2012-01-13, 04:30   Link #429
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I'm confused, how exactly did Tsuzuki crash and burn this franchise?
Because the guy doesn't have a shred of talent within him. To be honest, Nanoha has always been a pretty mediocre story. It just so happened to have likable characters, and "one" unique idea of pretty much applying mecha style action to the mahou shoujo genre. The writing is pretty much at the level of a high school kid's fanfiction.

Perhaps this is why A's was the best season since it allowed a full show casing of high action packed sequences with having all the main cast members on full display (especially fate and nanoha). Still even here the writing was evidently very weak.

Shit hit the fan in Strikers though. This is when the bloated the cast with tons of forgettable people and stopped focusing on what made this franchise popular. On top of that they pretty much trashed half the cast that was already there. Now weak writing coupled with an less interesting cast, with a bad budget, and you got nanoha strikers, a terrible piece of work.

Then you go to Nanoha Force.... And well that'd be a spoiler for the anime thread, but lets say it somehow gets even worst.
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Old 2012-01-13, 04:36   Link #430
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Strangely enough I prefer Force and Vivid over StrikerS.
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Old 2012-01-13, 05:09   Link #431
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StrikerS sold very well. Fan reception was better than A's despite complains from this forum

Vivid manga is selling like hotcakes

It's anything but a crashed and burned franchise

I'd have to call that project a success
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Old 2012-01-13, 05:15   Link #432
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StrikerS sold very well. Fan reception was better than A's despite complains from this forum

I'd have to call that project a success
It was better preciscely because of A's success which attracted the attention of everyone xDU

Still, Vivid started to become pretty entertaining as the fights are getting progresively more awesome and is already started to approach StrikerS in my book. Force also started to earn some points with me, it raised from "horrible" to "average"(i started to find Tohma sympatethic and Veyron is a pretty cool character and i kind of admire Curren's superiority).
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Old 2012-01-13, 05:15   Link #433
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StrikerS sold very well. Fan reception was better than A's despite complains from this forum

Vivid manga is selling like hotcakes

It's anything but a crashed and burned franchise

I'd have to call that project a success
Someone asked me why I thought he crashed and burned the franchise. I don't think he was asking what season was the biggest financial success, as if that ever was an indicator of quality (Looking at you Infinite Stratos).
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Old 2012-01-13, 05:21   Link #434
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(Looking at you Infinite Stratos).
You're gonna hate me for this but ...i actually find "IS" funny and entertaining. Of course i openly admits it's a cliched, low-quality story but it makes for cool mecha battles and a couple of laughs if you don't take the plot all that seriously.

The same can be applied on StrikerS, it's more enjoyable if you take it for what it is and don't compare it with A's because that's pointless. I also started to enjoy Vivid and ceased to hate Force under the same principle(i still hate what happened in Chapter 7 but i think the overall manga is ok).
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Old 2012-01-13, 05:23   Link #435
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Someone asked me why I thought he crashed and burned the franchise. I don't think he was asking what season was the biggest financial success, as if that ever was an indicator of quality (Looking at you Infinite Stratos).
The Persona 4 anime has got to be the best indicator that quality != success

A's puts all of the Nanoha series after it to shame.
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Old 2012-01-13, 05:27   Link #436
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A's puts all of the Nanoha series after it to shame.
The PSP games are testament of this XD
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Old 2012-01-13, 05:42   Link #437
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I judge a show by what it tries to achieve and how successful it is in achieving that. Quality is a vague word to me.

Persona 4 is a very interesting show.. but only if you have played the game; otherwise, it has a limited target audience.
But it does excel very well in capturing its intended target audience. I'm surprised how WACKY and entertaining the show can be.

So, I consider this to be a successful adaptation, and thus, a good show despite lacking obvious lack of budget. It's not a good stand alone show, but I don't think it wants to be one.

The judge StrikerS the same way.

Low sales are not an indication of a bad show
but high sales always means that a show managed to give the majority of its target audience what they expected.

So I have to acknowledge that. How much to intersect with the target audience? How much of their interests are my interest? Hmm.. sometimes I wonder about that with Nanoha.

I have enough problems with StrikerS to the point that I would not call it a good show, but I wouldn't go so far to call it a crashed and burned franchise. That would imply that the franchise has betrayed its target audience, but I am not enough to be considered the entirely of that, for the better or worse.
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Old 2012-01-13, 08:16   Link #438
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Fan reception was better than A's
...Where??
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Old 2012-01-13, 12:27   Link #439
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Old 2012-01-13, 12:48   Link #440
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Sales for StrikerS surpassed those of A's in Japan.

As for me, I wouldn't be here if not for StrikerS. I always skipped Nanoha because the summary just screamed "generic mahou shoujo" it wasn't until StrikerS came along with 'dimensional bureau' in the summary that I got interested.
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