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Old 2012-01-10, 07:14   Link #1981
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Old 2012-01-12, 19:21   Link #1982
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Times like this I am reminded that the main demograph of Asuki are male, most likely single :/

To drop my 2 pence, the BBC video isnn't anything awesome and obviously severly edited to make a story, but it still seems to be an ongoing issues over here.

Young Japanese 'decline to fall in love

Japan's population is getting smaller so to try to boost the birth rate, payments have been introduced for parents and steps have been made to improve access to child care.

But a government survey has revealed a big problem: over a third of young men and more young women have no interest in sex.
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Old 2012-01-12, 20:03   Link #1983
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But a government survey has revealed a big problem: over a third of young men and more young women have no interest in sex.
I wouldn't necessarily draw that conclusion from the BBC report. I interpreted it to mean that young Japanese aren't so interested in having a serious relationship with a member of the opposite sex. On the one hand you have a generation of young women who have struck out on their own, and a generation of young men who find such independent women intimidating if not downright scary.

I'm a member of the generation of men who became adults as feminism gained strength in America. Some of us were thrilled by these developments, but many more men saw these newly-liberated women as competitors, along with blacks, out to steal their jobs and their social position. Those atavistic attitudes still persist in America, particularly among white men, and are expressed by support for organizations like the Tea Party and more extreme white supremacist movements.

I'm thus not surprised to see the types of reactions among Japanese men in reports like that on the BBC. I also wouldn't be surprised to see it take a generation or two before an accommodation between the sexes is reached.

Roland Buerk seems to be on a roll here with a series of pieces on "weirdness" in Japanese life. I've linked to a couple of his other reports earlier in this thread.
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Old 2012-01-12, 20:20   Link #1984
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Same as Seiji, I grew up with the idea that women weren't property/meat/breedingstock as it gained strength in the US 60s/70s. I was also thrilled (which in turn makes me pissed off with I see paleo-numbnuts younger than me treating women badly or pining for the bad old days). I'm basically of the view people should be able to pursue whatever path they like without regard for gender and I prefer women who know how to provide covering fire in a zombie apocalypse

Watching Japan is like watching social society in the US minus 30 years with some quirks. Adapt and you "win", guys ---

This nonsense just derails from the problem Japan has similar to the US problem -- not enough jobs and the jobs aren't covering the necessary standard of living to feel comfortable enough to have families.
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Old 2012-01-13, 12:19   Link #1985
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University of Tokyo was contemplating moving the start of their school year to fall. I don't know if anything came of it.

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/features/arch...na014000c.html
I think this would be hard to do, as all companies hire from April, so the graduation and hiring schedule will not match.

I know a lot of friends who went to a Japanese university and graduated in Autumn (they are in snc with US schedule because they specialize in bilingual education) and it was awkward for them to try and match the Japanese hiring schedule.

Of course, if that person's plan is to go work in the US, then that's not a problem

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This nonsense just derails from the problem Japan has similar to the US problem -- not enough jobs and the jobs aren't covering the necessary standard of living to feel comfortable enough to have families.
Yeah I heard that it was a combination of lack of money to start a family and also to take girls out and dates, as well as having too much entertainment to want to give up their weekends and holidays to go on dates with girls, and too much porn and sexual entertainment (escorts etc) at their finger tips that allows them to satisfy their sexual needs without having a particular partner that make men not want to be in a relationship in japan.

Also, on the other hand, many girls in their 20s are dating men in their 40s and 50s.
This generation has money, has experienced the bubble economy and is comfortable with spending money etc, so they seem to be more appealing than the not so aggressive younger men,
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Old 2012-01-14, 18:24   Link #1986
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Are there ryokan that operate more like a hotel? All the ones I'm seeing either have curfews, require you to let them know if you're going to be out late so they can give you the password to a side door, don't have internet except in the lobby, etc. Is it too much to ask for standard hotel-style accommodations with tatami mats and futons?
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Old 2012-01-14, 19:46   Link #1987
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Old 2012-01-14, 19:49   Link #1988
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My bad. Inner Tokyo. So somewhere in the Akihabara, Ikebukuro, Asakusa, Shibuya, Shinjuku, etc area.
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Old 2012-01-14, 19:59   Link #1989
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Old 2012-01-14, 20:10   Link #1990
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That does appear to have everything I want. Only thing I forgot about on my prior list was the ability to leave my stuff in the room while I'm out doing stuff without it risking being stolen. Thank you.
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Old 2012-01-15, 20:22   Link #1991
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Young Japanese 'decline to fall in love'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-16500768

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Old 2012-01-15, 22:08   Link #1992
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I couldn't help but think of this while watching that:


Anyways, this is a pretty common problem in most 1st world nations. However, for most of them, they make it up with immigration. Japan has both cultural and logistical problems with going that route though.
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Old 2012-01-15, 22:11   Link #1993
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Now, if you're a single (and maybe desperate) white person, you can go to Japan and land yourself a partner (BF, GF, potential spouse)...
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Old 2012-01-15, 22:54   Link #1994
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Old 2012-01-15, 22:58   Link #1995
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2D > 3D

What more needs to be said?

Now I've got this body pillow that's been telling me I don't pay it enough attention...
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Old 2012-01-15, 23:28   Link #1996
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2D > 3D

What more needs to be said?

Now I've got this body pillow that's been telling me I don't pay it enough attention...
Well I have this :

Spoiler for big:
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Old 2012-01-15, 23:39   Link #1997
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omg those body pillows are just so................*shivers*
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Old 2012-01-15, 23:56   Link #1998
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So in other words, it's just young people being selfish?

Well whatever. They can do what they want. It's their lives they're fucking up after all.

Just remember the moe craze is ruining Japan folks.~
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Old 2012-01-16, 00:57   Link #1999
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I disagree that moe is solely responsible for this trend, for there's a lot of other factors one must look into.

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Have to be a bit realistic about this trend: some of them are probably obliged to work first (owing to the ongoing post-3/11 economic problems that country has to weather through), some feel they have low chances of marriage, some find the married life too troublesome, some are hopelessly isolated from society, or some don't have the looks or anything significant to attract the opposite sex.
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Old 2012-01-16, 01:21   Link #2000
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I disagree that moe is solely responsible for this trend, for there's a lot of other factors one must look into.
Yeah I know. I mostly meant that statement as a joke. It's fine to like it and all but there's such a thing as going too far, and when you go too far, shit like this starts happening.

Of course as you said there's plenty of other plausible reasons, but unfortunately most of them just boil down to a selfishness for free-time amidst busy schedules (as mentioned in the video) or a lack of self-confidence due to laziness in bettering themselves. They're digging their own pitfall in the matter.
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