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Old 2012-01-11, 19:13   Link #3881
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I`m not too sure what to make of the whole relationship chart...
It says that Fate is the adoptive daughter to Lindy and adoptive sister to Chrono, but only legal guardian to Caro and Erio.

One way to look at it would be that their real parents are still officially that(they are not dead... I think...) and Fate have permission to be their guardian...

EDIT : Stupid mistake...
Lindy was the official adopter of Erio, since Fate was too young at the time. Beyond that, we don't know if anything changed. There is one scene in Strikers where they are questioning Erio about how he sees Fate, whether as a mother or sister, and I believe he wasn't sure. But that's all that's been said that I recall.

And as far as the linker core discussion, they said in Ep 3 that Nanoha's wounds weren't serious; just that her core had shrunken to an unusual state. I can imagine there would be pain and shock about losing a core (or having it damaged), but not life-threatening. Humans can live with having certain other organs removed, too, like appendixes and kidneys.
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Old 2012-01-11, 21:22   Link #3882
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And as far as the linker core discussion, they said in Ep 3 that Nanoha's wounds weren't serious; just that her core had shrunken to an unusual state. I can imagine there would be pain and shock about losing a core (or having it damaged), but not life-threatening. Humans can live with having certain other organs removed, too, like appendixes and kidneys.
Of course, that could be only with timely medical intervention. Sure, you can live without a kidney but if you don't have good doctor that can remove it safely then your life will be in very real danger. It wouldn't be strange if the forcefull removal of a complete Linker Core can have fatal consequences withtout a quick and professional intervention.
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Old 2012-01-11, 21:28   Link #3883
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The Wolkenritter wanted to be tried in court as bloodless criminals this time.

"I stabbed someone in the kidney, but made sure we were close enough to a hospital that he PROBABLY wouldn't die" doesn't fly too well.
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Old 2012-01-12, 19:34   Link #3884
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The Wolkenritter wanted to be tried in court as bloodless criminals this time.

"I stabbed someone in the kidney, but made sure we were close enough to a hospital that he PROBABLY wouldn't die" doesn't fly too well.
But they just drained them not actually cut them out of the body...
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Old 2012-01-12, 19:40   Link #3885
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Hand-through-torso might not be cutting, but that core definitely left the body.
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Old 2012-01-12, 19:50   Link #3886
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Hand-through-torso might not be cutting, but that core definitely left the body.
Actually she used a dimensional portal to get to it but she did put it back when she was done.

Anyway so that we are all clear on this...draining linker core dose not kill but cutting someone open and ripping it out will indeed kill you.
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Old 2012-01-12, 23:47   Link #3887
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Anyway so that we are all clear on this...draining linker core dose not kill but cutting someone open and ripping it out will indeed kill you.
Unless you have a source to back this up, it's opinion, not fact. This thread is mainly about facts, and any opinion should be clearly labeled as such.
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Old 2012-01-13, 01:11   Link #3888
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This thread is also for simple questions that can be quickly answered with factual citations from official material.

Whenever a "question and answer" turns into "a discussion", it should move to an appropriate thread.
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Old 2012-01-14, 19:44   Link #3889
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Hey guys! What do we know about canon automaton usage? I know Precia used Golems, then Jail had a whole series of droids. How do the Raptors from Caliburn Electronics fit into this?

Also, what kinds of droids did Jail have and what were their capabilities? Any idea of when each model was rolled out?
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Old 2012-01-14, 19:49   Link #3890
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It's Caledfwlch Techniques--not Caliburn Electronics. :k

And Raptors appear to be somewhat different from the automatons used by Precia and Jail, in that they need a command center with people giving them commands.
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Well, Jail's drones actually had a couple of modes. He could give them orders directly, but he could also put them into a mode where they act on their own, based on previous commands. Raptors just do the former, for now, which makes a bit of sense since it looks like they want to sell them to the TSAB.

But in general, the Bureau can make complicated devices with AI's, and robots seems easily doable, so I'd presume most anything below a certain level is possible.

Lastly, Jail had three (or four) different drones.

Type 1's were the simplest and least powerful, with some levitation capability and could fire energy beams. Could also interface with other technology to take control of it.

Type 2's were more like an aero fighter, with missiles as well as energy blasts.

Type 3's were huge sphere's (bigger than a human) that had increased power and appendages, but were otherwise similar to Type 1's.

The last one, people unofficially call Type 4's. They seem to have cloaking technology and bladed melee attacks.
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Old 2012-01-15, 03:16   Link #3892
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Well, Jail's drones actually had a couple of modes. He could give them orders directly, but he could also put them into a mode where they act on their own, based on previous commands.
Also, the mode where Lutecia remotely controlled them via Insekts.

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The last one, people unofficially call Type 4's. They seem to have cloaking technology and bladed melee attacks.
That was the only one Jail didn't build, only appropriated from the stockpile he found on the Cradle. The rest of them were built based on the Belkan design.

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Old 2012-01-20, 12:56   Link #3893
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Can Vita use Panzergeist? She uses Panzerhindernis as her primary defensive spell but if we go by the scene where she explains the three types of defensive magic to Subaru it seems that she knows the spell.
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if we go by the scene where she explains the three types of defensive magic to Subaru it seems that she knows the spell.
I do not see why that cannot be considered an indication that she can cast it. Panzerschild seems like the default shield spell for all Ancient Belka practitioners, so the other Panzer-family spells may be the default Ancient Belkan spells of other types.
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Old 2012-01-20, 13:53   Link #3895
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I do not see why that cannot be considered an indication that she can cast it. Panzerschild seems like the default shield spell for all Ancient Belka practitioners, so the other Panzer-family spells may be the default Ancient Belkan spells of other types.
Then maybe it's just preference? We never saw Vita casting Panzergeist as also we never saw signum casting Panzerhindernis.
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Old 2012-01-20, 15:05   Link #3896
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We also never saw Chrono use Delayed Bind in either of the original TV seasons, but we know he had it when he sparred with Fate in the manga set between them.

Taking Battle of Aces as canonical, Shamal has a couple of wind manipulation spells she never found a reason to use, and Gears of Destiny shows that Yuuno has a shooting spell that he was always foregoing in favor of some other spell.

It's also unlikely that Yuuno doesn't know the Binding Shield trick Nanoha revealed in ViVid, or that Chrono and Fate don't know Shoot Barret as the first step towards learning more advanced spells like Stinger Ray and Photon Lancer. Especially since Shoot Barret is explicitly described as the most basic shooting spell taught to ALL Midchildan mages.
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Old 2012-01-20, 15:13   Link #3897
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Well it's a good argument considering Signum revelaed two never seen spells/attacks in her second duel with Nanoha at the ned of StrikerS manga. I wonder if she already knew those spells or developed them during the course of her life with Hayate and the Aces.
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Old 2012-01-20, 15:30   Link #3898
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There's no way to find that out, so we can't answer that question.
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Old 2012-01-20, 15:41   Link #3899
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Likewise, we can't tell whether or not Vita is the only Wolkenritter to know "Magical Prison" (Gefangis de Magi?).

Vita only trapped and attacked Nanoha because she didn't know about her connection to the Bureau. After that, the Wolkenritter attempted to avoid the TSAB mages rather than hunt them for linker cores, so they had no reason to use the spell.

At least not until Nanoha and Fate caught them in Hayate's hospital room. Shamal only used a jamming field then, but perhaps the TSAB would have detected another Magical Prison.
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the attack with which Cypha destroyed Hayate's iceberg - that a magical blast/attack or just a physical slash ?
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