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**Klashikari** · 2012-01-31, 10:12

Ryukishi07 has announced today the name of his next VN installment by 07th Expansion: Rose Guns Days.

Little is known about its setting, aside it is set on 1947, with this cryptic sub title: "1947年、暗黒街。求む用心棒。" (1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard.)

As of now, there is no confirmation if this serie will be part of the Naku Koro ni (When They Cry) installment, or a stand alone like Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni.

Website: http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

RedKey · 2012-01-31, 10:12

Uuuh I hope I'm not going too off-topic, don't know where else to post.
It seems the new 07th Expansion vn will be called 「ローズガンズデイズ」. How would that be romanized? Rose... guns... days...?

edit: nvm, I'm dumb. There's a splash screen already. http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

st_nick5 · 2012-01-31, 10:34

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Originally Posted by RedKey

Uuuh I hope I'm not going too off-topic, don't know where else to post.
It seems the new 07th Expansion vn will be called 「ローズガンズデイズ」. How would that be romanized? Rose... guns... days...?

edit: nvm, I'm dumb. There's a splash screen already. http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

Is he moving away from the "naku koro ni" series now, or is he going to come back to them at some point?

edit - Anyone know what this will be about?

RedKey · 2012-01-31, 10:40

The subtitle reads '1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard'. But I can't figure out if 暗黒街 means underworld as in the realm of the dead or mafia-like stuff. I suppose it's the latter though, as iirc the Hades would be 冥界.

LyricalAura · 2012-01-31, 11:13

Yes, probably mafia. Although if it were a setting like Grim Fandango, that would be pretty awesome.

GyroidFanatic · 2012-01-31, 11:20

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Originally Posted by RedKey

The subtitle reads '1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard'. But I can't figure out if 暗黒街 means underworld as in the realm of the dead or mafia-like stuff. I suppose it's the latter though, as iirc the Hades would be 冥界.

1947 was during the post-war occupation of Japan, so I imagine that will be a big theme.

Jan-Poo · 2012-01-31, 11:26

Unless this will be set in another country for a change. Roses and Guns don't really make me think about Japan, but anything is possible.

Kylon99 · 2012-01-31, 12:02

You know, after a detective setting with Umineko, maybe he's following the genre as it historically gave way to hard boiled detective or film noir fiction. Maybe that's what this is. I'm calling it!

L in Hinamizawa · 2012-01-31, 12:27

It's here!!!!!
Ryukishi07 just released the logo for his new series, Rose Guns Days!!!

http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

The main page has a little blurb about it too.http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm

All I can say is, YES! YES! YES!!!

I'm curious, can anyone please translate what the words are underneath the main logo text? I can't read Japanese unfortunately. Anyways, I'm so happy! Let the speculation begin!

immblueversion · 2012-01-31, 12:44

Ya know, considering "暗黒街" does mean "underworld" and it pops up in the Japanese titles of movies like Scarface...

Rayneing · 2012-01-31, 12:58

For some reason, that teaser webpage is giving me a bit of a cowboy/western vibe. Interested to see exactly what this is.

Bluemail · 2012-01-31, 13:07

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Originally Posted by L in Hinamizawa

It's here!!!!!
Ryukishi07 just released the logo for his new series, Rose Guns Days!!!

http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm

The main page has a little blurb about it too.http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm

All I can say is, YES! YES! YES!!!

I'm curious, can anyone please translate what the words are underneath the main logo text? I can't read Japanese unfortunately. Anyways, I'm so happy! Let the speculation begin!

It says: "1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard." I wonder if it's going to be a noir/hard-boiled detective story. That would be really great. Somehow the title also makes me think of a western, which might be great too. Or perhaps this underworld is not what we believe it to be...

I'm excited about this as well, though the title sounded a bit weird. After all, 07th Expansion previous titles were all in Japanese, and had about the same structure. This new English name with three words not making a sentence makes me think of Fate Stay Night.

I think Ryukishi said this was going to be a series at least, and not a single sound novel, though we can't be sure.

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

RedKey · 2012-01-31, 13:29

>continuing from the Umineko translation thread
I guess I did post in the wrong place after all. Sorry, Klashikari.

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Originally Posted by Bluemail

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

Good point. I wonder if he intends to expand the interactivity he tested with Umineko EP8, or at least have a multi-ending game.

myopius · 2012-01-31, 13:40

So we have conspicuous use of the English language, the words "rose" and "guns", bricks, worn paper, a metallic gleam to the title, 1947, the (criminal) underworld, and someone looking for a bodyguard.

I don't find it hard to imagine that Rose Guns Days will be set in a country like America or Britain, especially considering the Western influence in Umineko's setting.

And of course, when it comes to bodyguards, I can't help but be reminded of

Spoiler for Vague spoiler for Umineko episode 4+:

and so I find myself thinking the "rose" (notably in the singular form compared to "guns") could be a young lady. Although the plot of a bishoujo in need of a bodyguard has been done before in anime and manga, with Ryuukishi the writer perceived cliches need not be feared.

I look forward to more information.

SilverSyko · 2012-01-31, 16:59

Huh. I was under the impression the second part of the subtitle said "a city by night", not "the underworld", but I guess either-or makes sense if you think about it. There is the term "criminal underground" after all.

But yeah. I can easily see the setting from the info we have here as something like L.A. Noire, with it's 1940's film noir detective cases, except only in a visual novel form and with Ryukishi07's personal artstyle. In that case the setting most likely isn't in Japan, which is cool.

Interested in seeing more.~

immblueversion · 2012-01-31, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Bluemail

Actually, did 07th Expansion use ノベルゲーム (Novel Game) instead of サウンドノベル (Sound Novel) for the first time?

Well, I looked up ノベルゲーム on the Japanese Wikipedia, and it redirected to ビジュアルノベル (visual novel), meaning the term, similar to "sound novel", is at least related to a visual novel. However, I wouldn't know if or how it will be different from the format of Higurashi, Umineko, and Higanbana. Maybe it will play out more like a game than the previous games by requiring more interaction from the player besides scrolling to text? Of course, this is merely pure speculation with a weak basis.

Ander · 2012-01-31, 20:09

This will be pretty interesting, can't wait :3

By the way, 1947 = Black Dahlia Murder??

Von Himmel · 2012-01-31, 20:18

The first that came up to my mind was : Guns and Roses w

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Unless this will be set in another country for a change. Roses and Guns don't really make me think about Japan, but anything is possible.

I also think that the setting won't be in Japan too.

Kaisos Erranon · 2012-02-01, 03:26

So, what, is he going to tackle American detective fiction after attempting the British tradition? Awesome.

MeoTwister5 · 2012-02-01, 03:36

If he plans detective film noir style post WW2... well lets see how he fares.

2012-01-31, 10:12	Link #1
Klashikari Swords•Maidens Maniac Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe, Belgium, Brussels Age: 26	Rose Guns Days (07th Expansion) Ryukishi07 has announced today the name of his next VN installment by 07th Expansion: Rose Guns Days. Little is known about its setting, aside it is set on 1947, with this cryptic sub title: "1947年、暗黒街。求む用心棒。" (1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard.) As of now, there is no confirmation if this serie will be part of the Naku Koro ni (When They Cry) installment, or a stand alone like Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni. Website: http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm __________________ [Signature Thread - Update: 2011-05-11] Twitter / Blog: Ryukishi07's conference at Epitanime Last edited by Klashikari; 2012-01-31 at 13:20.

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RedKey 天界の異端審問官 Join Date: Apr 2011	Roses Guns Days (Next 07th Expansion Visual Novel) Uuuh I hope I'm not going too off-topic, don't know where else to post. It seems the new 07th Expansion vn will be called 「ローズガンズデイズ」. How would that be romanized? Rose... guns... days...? edit: nvm, I'm dumb. There's a splash screen already. http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm __________________ ‎

2012-01-31, 10:40	Link #4
RedKey 天界の異端審問官 Join Date: Apr 2011	The subtitle reads '1947, the underworld. Looking for a bodyguard'. But I can't figure out if 暗黒街 means underworld as in the realm of the dead or mafia-like stuff. I suppose it's the latter though, as iirc the Hades would be 冥界. __________________ ‎

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LyricalAura Dea ex Kakera Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sea of Fragments	Yes, probably mafia. Although if it were a setting like Grim Fandango, that would be pretty awesome. __________________ "Something has fallen on us that falls very seldom on men; perhaps the worst thing that can fall on them. We have found the truth; and the truth makes no sense."

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Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	Unless this will be set in another country for a change. Roses and Guns don't really make me think about Japan, but anything is possible. __________________

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Kylon99 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Meta-Meta-Meta-Space	You know, after a detective setting with Umineko, maybe he's following the genre as it historically gave way to hard boiled detective or film noir fiction. Maybe that's what this is. I'm calling it! __________________ Umineko EP1-2 Comprehensive - Solution to Umineko using the text itself (includes Final Culprit Theory) LyricalAura's Our Confessions Summary - Spoils and solves the murder mysteries of Umineko Important Umineko Theories explained here! (Spoilers only to EP6) Use Translation Aggregator to read Umineko in Japanese!

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L in Hinamizawa I guess Erika would be E? Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: In Hinamizawa trying to solve the Curse of Oyashiro Sama Age: 20	It's here!!!!! Ryukishi07 just released the logo for his new series, Rose Guns Days!!! http://07th-expansion.net/rose/Main.htm The main page has a little blurb about it too.http://07th-expansion.net/Main.htm All I can say is, YES! YES! YES!!! I'm curious, can anyone please translate what the words are underneath the main logo text? I can't read Japanese unfortunately. Anyways, I'm so happy! Let the speculation begin!

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immblueversion Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Where you're not.	Ya know, considering "暗黒街" does mean "underworld" and it pops up in the Japanese titles of movies like Scarface... __________________ I'm not the boss. I just know what you should be doing.

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Rayneing Trombe! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England. Age: 23	For some reason, that teaser webpage is giving me a bit of a cowboy/western vibe. Interested to see exactly what this is. __________________

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myopius Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	So we have conspicuous use of the English language, the words "rose" and "guns", bricks, worn paper, a metallic gleam to the title, 1947, the (criminal) underworld, and someone looking for a bodyguard. I don't find it hard to imagine that Rose Guns Days will be set in a country like America or Britain, especially considering the Western influence in Umineko's setting. And of course, when it comes to bodyguards, I can't help but be reminded of Spoiler for Vague spoiler for Umineko episode 4+: Ange and Amakusa and so I find myself thinking the "rose" (notably in the singular form compared to "guns") could be a young lady. Although the plot of a bishoujo in need of a bodyguard has been done before in anime and manga, with Ryuukishi the writer perceived cliches need not be feared. I look forward to more information.

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SilverSyko The Anti-Otaku Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 21	Huh. I was under the impression the second part of the subtitle said "a city by night", not "the underworld", but I guess either-or makes sense if you think about it. There is the term "criminal underground" after all. But yeah. I can easily see the setting from the info we have here as something like L.A. Noire, with it's 1940's film noir detective cases, except only in a visual novel form and with Ryukishi07's personal artstyle. In that case the setting most likely isn't in Japan, which is cool. Interested in seeing more.~ __________________ Last edited by SilverSyko; 2012-02-01 at 03:36.

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Ander Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011	This will be pretty interesting, can't wait :3 By the way, 1947 = Black Dahlia Murder??

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Kaisos Erranon Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 23	So, what, is he going to tackle American detective fiction after attempting the British tradition? Awesome. __________________

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