(L) Rosario+Vampire Manga

[Chris38]

Spoiler for 50, Tsukune's development:

Well, if Ikeda is really going to go in that direction during his rematch with Kuyou, the next question would be - what Tsukune is going to become as a result of his transformation.

Naturally the most obvious answer would be that he is going to become a Shinso vampire, but in a manga which has a theme of achieving coexistence between human's and ayashi, I don't think that Ikeda would go in such a direction. Not to mention that it would be a pretty predictable answer, that probably won't be very satisfying, since Ikeda can definitely do something better then that, especially after he spent so much time on the development of Tsukune's transformation.

In other words, while Tsukune's powers would be quite similar to the power's of a Shinso vampire, overall he would be a different kind of being then a Sinso vampire - a being that would allow him to retain the partial human traits that are still present inside his body, that, for example, give him an immunity to traditional vampire weaknesses.

Naturally even if I say that Tsukune's transformation is going to be finalized during his rematch with Kuyou and that he most likely won't need to wear the Holy Lock, it doesn't mean that he's going to automatically gain the experience to fully utilize the full capabilities of his Shinso blood, since first it would make his fight against Akua too easy, and second of all, it would make the rest of the series a little boring, since I doubt there exist a lot of beings that are stronger or equal in strength with a Shinso vampire.

[Shinso Tsukune]

Spoiler for :

I believe Miyabi set this up to "test" Tsukune's abilities before proceeding to where Moka is which means that the last two remaining subdivisions will probably be faced later after Tsukune's fight with Akua.

So for now it looks like Miyabi will be guarding the girls until Tsukune gets out of the fight with Kuyou. I also have the feeling the Miyabi will probably go up against Gyokuro once she finds out about his betrayal, if she hasn't already gotten the idea he's behind this.

As for Kuyou helping Tsukune finalize his transformation, do yall really think its time for something like that? though i do want to see it happen but for some reason it feels kinda a little bit too soon for something like that, i expected it to happen when he finally faced Akua.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Shinso Tsukune

Spoiler for :

I believe Miyabi set this up to "test" Tsukune's abilities before proceeding to where Moka is which means that the last two remaining subdivisions will probably be faced later after Tsukune's fight with Akua.

So for now it looks like Miyabi will be guarding the girls until Tsukune gets out of the fight with Kuyou. I also have the feeling the Miyabi will probably go up against Gyokuro once she finds out about his betrayal, if she hasn't already gotten the idea he's behind this.

As for Kuyou helping Tsukune finalize his transformation, do yall really think its time for something like that? though i do want to see it happen but for some reason it feels kinda a little bit too soon for something like that, i expected it to happen when he finally faced Akua.

Spoiler for 50:

Like Soji said earlier, Tsukune would need to be in his best shape, before he faces Akua, who probably won't give Tsukune enough time to worry about the state of his transformation or that he is reaching his limit on the amount of power he is capable of using.

Not to mention you can't deny the symbolism of such a development - that the person who initiated Tsukune's transformation, would be the one to finalize it.

If it has been just a test to see how powerful Tsukune has became, Miyabi could have used anyone that have faced Tsukune in the past - he could even be the one, who would personally test Tsukune's abilities, but as you know Ikeda didn't do that, and actually initiated a rematch with Kuyou, the first opponent that Tsukune fought in his "vampire mode" and the person, which imitated Tsukune's transformation to begin with, and that is the main reason why I believe, that Ikeda is aiming for something else, then just a simple test of Tsukune's abilities.

[Soji]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Spoiler for 50:

Like Soji said earlier, Tsukune would need to be in his best shape, before he faces Akua, who probably won't give Tsukune enough time to worry about the state of his transformation or that he is reaching his limit on the amount of power he is capable of using.

Not to mention you can't deny the symbolism of such a development - that the person who initiated Tsukune's transformation, would be the one to finalize it.

If it has been just a test to see how powerful Tsukune has became, Miyabi could have used anyone that have faced Tsukune in the past - he could even be the one, who would personally test Tsukune's abilities, but as you know Ikeda didn't do that, and actually initiated a rematch with Kuyou, the first opponent that Tsukune fought in his "vampire mode" and the person, which imitated Tsukune's transformation to begin with, and that is the main reason why I believe, that Ikeda is aiming for something else, then just a simple test of Tsukune's abilities.

Spoiler for spoiler:

Agree .Plus I really can't see Tsukune in his most significant battle become the black thing that he become that time. I mean he is there to save Moka he can't show her that ._. Wich mean his trasformation have to be finlaize during the fight with the fox. And like you said would symbolize so much if happen with him

[Shinso Tsukune]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Spoiler for 50:

Like Soji said earlier, Tsukune would need to be in his best shape, before he faces Akua, who probably won't give Tsukune enough time to worry about the state of his transformation or that he is reaching his limit on the amount of power he is capable of using.

Not to mention you can't deny the symbolism of such a development - that the person who initiated Tsukune's transformation, would be the one to finalize it.

If it has been just a test to see how powerful Tsukune has became, Miyabi could have used anyone that have faced Tsukune in the past - he could even be the one, who would personally test Tsukune's abilities, but as you know Ikeda didn't do that, and actually initiated a rematch with Kuyou, the first opponent that Tsukune fought in his "vampire mode" and the person, which imitated Tsukune's transformation to begin with, and that is the main reason why I believe, that Ikeda is aiming for something else, then just a simple test of Tsukune's abilities.

Spoiler for 50:

Indeed, being at his best come time for him to face Akua is best, i agree.

I can't wait until we see him totally own that cocky Kuyou itle be epic!

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Soji

Spoiler for spoiler:

Agree .Plus I really can't see Tsukune in his most significant battle become the black thing that he become that time. I mean he is there to save Moka he can't show her that ._. Wich mean his trasformation have to be finlaize during the fight with the fox. And like you said would symbolize so much if happen with him

Spoiler for 50:

Not to mention that, Tsukune losing control during his fight with Akua, would definitely cause Alucard to fully awaken, and I have to say that a situation where the rest of the protagonists would need to deal with a rampaging Tsukune and a fully awakened Alucard would be a little too much to deal with.

After all, we had seen how difficult to control Tsukune is, in his new berserk state, and if we combine that with what Alucard demonstrated in the flashback to Moka's childhood - well, in such a situation, I can't think of anything else, but a bad ending, where the player needs to restart from the last checkpoint .

Since, Tsukune and Ruby have been teleported to some alternate universe, that is most likely separated from Fairy Tale's HQ, Tsukune can probably rampage there all he wants and it won't influence Alucard's current state...

The downside is, that Kuyou will probably try to seriously kill Tsukune, even in his rampage state, so the situation definitely won't be ideal, but I think that's the reason why Ruby has been teleported along with Tsukune to try to remedy the situation a little, and keep Kuyou busy, until Tsukune regains control over his powers.

So the situation can't be called "ideal" but honestly, we all need a little drama to spice things up.

[Shinso Tsukune]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Spoiler for 50:

Not to mention that, Tsukune losing control during his fight with Akua, would definitely cause Alucard to fully awaken, and I have to say that a situation where the rest of the protagonists would need to deal with a rampaging Tsukune and a fully awakened Alucard would be a little too much to deal with.

After all, we had seen how difficult to control Tsukune is, in his new berserk state, and if we combine that with what Alucard demonstrated in the flashback to Moka's childhood - well, in such a situation, I can't think of anything else, but a bad ending, where the player needs to restart from the last checkpoint .

Since, Tsukune and Ruby have been teleported to some alternate universe, that is most likely separated from Fairy Tale's HQ, Tsukune can probably rampage there all he wants and it won't influence Alucard's current state...

The downside is, that Kuyou will probably try to seriously kill Tsukune, even in his rampage state, so the situation definitely won't be ideal, but I think that's the reason why Ruby has been teleported along with Tsukune to try to remedy the situation a little, and keep Kuyou busy, until Tsukune regains control over his powers.

So the situation can't be called "ideal" but honestly, we all need a little drama to spice things up.

Spoiler for 50:

About Tsukune's influence on Alucard, Sai-Lung revealed the summoning monsters require demon energy to be used this logic would no doubt apply to using demon energy to use youjutsu, that being said, Tsukune's only source of energy is his Shinso power and by using it to execute his youjutsu techniques, this would result in short releases of Shinso power like what we have seen with the Bakuryujin technique, wouldn't you think that these short bursts of energy would effect Alucard while hes using youjutsu during his battle with Akua?

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Shinso Tsukune

Spoiler for 50:

About Tsukune's influence on Alucard, Sai-Lung revealed the summoning monsters require demon energy to be used this logic would no doubt apply to using demon energy to use youjutsu, that being said, Tsukune's only source of energy is his Shinso power and by using it to execute his youjutsu techniques, this would result in short releases of Shinso power like what we have seen with the Bakuryujin technique, wouldn't you think that these short bursts of energy would effect Alucard while hes using youjutsu during his battle with Akua?

Spoiler for Youkai energy:

I doubt that Tsukune using youjutsu techniques during his fight with Akua is going to cause Alucard to fully awaken, after all we had seen that Akasha was fine in not letting Alucard awaken, despite using some of her youkai energy during her fight with Akua, during Moka's childhood flashback.

So, as long as Tsukune keeps his youkai energy at a low output, he should be fine, and since using youjutsu techniques isn't even causing Tsukune to transform into his "vampire form", I don't think they use a lot of Tsukune's youkai energy - and even if such youjutsu techniques exist , I doubt that Tohou Fuhai has thought them to Tsukune, precisely to avoid a scenario, where he would accidentally awaken Alucard from his slumber.

[kenjiharima]

a little off topic here.

Anyone seen this Your Future Waifu

http://shindanmaker.com/23295

used my real name I got Moka Akashiya, shocked it wasn't Mizore or Kurumu. Wonder who else has the name destined for an R+V girl.

[Shinso Tsukune]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

a little off topic here.

Anyone seen this Your Future Waifu

http://shindanmaker.com/23295

used my real name I got Moka Akashiya, shocked it wasn't Mizore or Kurumu. Wonder who else has the name destined for an R+V girl.

LMAO, i got Tsumugi Kotobuki

[Mahou]

With first name, last name: Teletha Tessa Testarossa
And with last name, first name: Fumino Serizawa Quite nice choices in both cases.

[Tempest35]

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0.o
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Nunally Lamperouge!?

...>< I'm becoming a monk.

...oh wait, the names change if you capitalize them or not... wow, talk about picky...

...no, not Illyasviel von Einzbern (Fate Stay Night, etc)...

*crawls into a hole*

[Shinso Tsukune]

I got Asuna Kagurazaka

[Magin]

Alright... so, using my nickname for my first name and then full last name, all in small letters, I got Rin Tohsaka

... then using my full first name and last last, again in small letters, I got Moka herself! Mwhahahahahaha!!!

[Arturro]

Bellandy for my full first and last name, Moka for nickname. I think it's a sign that I should read Oh! My Goddess! :P

[Mahou]

Using my nickname with the first letter capitalized, I will marry Shana in next year's december And that when I'm not really interested in the Shakugan no Shana works =/.

Edit:

Spoiler for Chapter 50:

Seems like an okay chapter. Most of my impressions have already been stated by others. I'm in the same camp of "We don't trust Miyabi", for me mostly due to personal anti-bias against him. I cannot stand that guy. Tsukune vs. Kyou should turn out entertaining. Personally, I want to see Tsukune to completely overwhelm his opponent, but am aware that it would downplay the strenghth of the fairy tale divison leaders. Kiria seems to be as always and just looks for entertainment. Uhm, nothing more to add as the summary mentioned everything of importance. Maybe, that Kiria confirmed that Kyou and not he (= Kiria) was sent to inflitrate Youkai Academy by Fairy Tale

[Chris38]

Going back to the raw discussion..

Spoiler for 50:

What kind of makes me worried, is the amount of time Inner Moka, will be given, after this arc is over...

After all, it's pretty obvious that, at the current point in the story, Tsukune needs to defeat Kuyou to proceed toward - not to mention, the speculations that I made that this particular fight, might actually finalize his vampire transformation.

And, after that fight, there is still Akua to deal with...

Overall, the way I see it, Inner Moka's role would be seriously margined, after this arc is over, since Tsukune wouldn't need to depend on her as much as he did earlier, since after this arc is over, I see Tsukune being perfectly capable of holding out on his own in a fight, without needing to release Inner Moka.

Not to mention the fact that the other girls in Tsukune's harem have also gotten a little stronger.

In other words, there is no way I see the Rosario (and Outer Moka) surviving through this arc intact - either the seal is going to be broken during Alucard's resurrection (which would be a bad thing, since it would cause Alucard to awaken), or the strain from the ritual that Fairy Tale uses to try and resurrect Alucard, will cause Moka's seal to break in this arcs conclusion.

If anything other then that occurs, well - like I said it would really marginalize the role Moka would have in the future arcs, and I doubt that Ikeda would do that to his main female protagonist.

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Going back to the raw discussion..

Spoiler for 50:

What kind of makes me worried, is the amount of time Inner Moka, will be given, after this arc is over...

After all, it's pretty obvious that, at the current point in the story, Tsukune needs to defeat Kuyou to proceed toward - not to mention, the speculations that I made that this particular fight, might actually finalize his vampire transformation.

And, after that fight, there is still Akua to deal with...

Overall, the way I see it, Inner Moka's role would be seriously margined, after this arc is over, since Tsukune wouldn't need to depend on her as much as he did earlier, since after this arc is over, I see Tsukune being perfectly capable of holding out on his own in a fight, without needing to release Inner Moka.

Not to mention the fact that the other girls in Tsukune's harem have also gotten a little stronger.

In other words, there is no way I see the Rosario (and Outer Moka) surviving through this arc intact - either the seal is going to be broken during Alucard's resurrection (which would be a bad thing, since it would cause Alucard to awaken), or the strain from the ritual that Fairy Tale uses to try and resurrect Alucard, will cause Moka's seal to break in this arcs conclusion.

If anything other then that occurs, well - like I said it would really marginalize the role Moka would have in the future arcs, and I doubt that Ikeda would do that to his main female protagonist.

Spoiler for Ura-chan's reaction to the new Tsukune:

Indeed, how will she handle such a situation? Before this, she wondered if she would've seen Tsukune again. But it's a given she will, but will she like what she sees, a powerful youjutsu warrior who can take down an old rival as well as Super Siscon. Would she be elated, or threatened? She should be elated to see him again, and two to three times as powerful as he was when they last met. After all, vampires respect power. However, as you said, if Tsukune can stand on his own, where this will leave her? Will she have to remain within the Rosario for the rest of her life?

Though I think there's one thing that might've eluded your notice. Tsukune now knows Omote is not the real Moka, and was prepared to kill himself over it. How will he interact with Omote once the rescue arc is over, how can he look at her the same way again? How will Omote take the news that her whole life is a creation of Akasha? That will be an interesting issue to address later on.

As for the seal, Ura-chan wanted to protect it, event though she'd lose her freedom, she'd keep the last memento she has of her mother. And it would be hard to keep calling the manga Rosario + Vampire, if the Rosario is no longer. I guess we'll have to wait and see how Akihisa resolves this dilemma. Until then...

[ShiroiRyu]

Spoiler for 50 translated:

WOWOW !
Kuyou return ?!
And what the hell with Miyabi ? I don't think he is good ...
So many things ...

[Merilyn Mensola]

Chapter 50 is out

Spoiler:

Interesting..really interesting..what a good development...Miyabi that tell Tsukune that for now..he can help them..mmmm...this is a bit interesting..and the fact that in the end.. he protect Mizore..is like he tell the true...

However..in this moment i want to see Tsukune vs Kuyou...the fight..is going to be interesting..i want to see the new Tsukune power...after the body modification..the new power of being a vampire....not a normal vampire..but.. a vampire that was human..and got the Shinso blood....

Nice chapter!