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Old 2012-02-07, 18:10   Link #281
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I won't speak for anyone else, but I think girls are portrayed more "realistically" here than in the countless series that idealize and sexualize them endlessly. Their grotesque tendencies are highlighted to a ridiculous level here the way the guys' are in all those other anime - which I think is exactly the point.
Thirding this. Very much thirding this.
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:12   Link #282
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the person I'd most admired since childhood was my dumb ass friend.
I wouldn't really say
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dumb ass. No male in this show can qualify as one either, IMO.
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:16   Link #283
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More Ringo! But her counterpart (blond haired student council president) isn't here, as his teasing was part of the reason why last episode was so good.

And I actually feel sorry for Habara. Clearly she learned her lesson already (only the two other girls were 'bullying' Karasawa), and she still feels guilty over the incident.

At least Literature Girl is back, as IMO it's when she shows up (and "Kyon" starts going on with his long internal dialogue) is what got me hooked in this show in the first place.
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:18   Link #284
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My God! Why are girls in this anime so different from other girls in both other animes and real life? XD It's like the person who created this anime has seen or experianced girls do these kind of things and thinks that they do things like this.
You mean they don't ? My four years in Secondary School and three more in Polytechnic were a lie ?!
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:22   Link #285
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You mean they don't ? My four years in Secondary School and three more in Polytechnic were a lie ?!
I say I say! This series is better off marketed to mundanes.
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:22   Link #286
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Was... Was Tadakuni hanging around with Nago again? On one hand this might just be an elaborate set-up for a joke somewhere down the line. On the other hand, I think it's interesting (and realistic) that for all his complaints of isolation during the last episode, he's the one who's got a friend of sorts (and a girl at that) outside of his circle of male schoolmates.
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:25   Link #287
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I wouldn't really say
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dumb ass. No male in this show can qualify as one either, IMO.
Yeah, I didn't literally mean dumb. I refer to most teenage boys as dumb asses simply because of all the outrageously stupid things they do. I'd be mortified if the person I'd admired for so long was actually one of my dumb highschool friends.
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:25   Link #288
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Umm ... not from this corner either. The Pachabel's Canon BGM destroyed the whole scene for me.
Bad "Eva" flashbacks, Flower?
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:29   Link #289
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You mean they don't ? My four years in Secondary School and three more in Polytechnic were a lie ?!
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Bad "Eva" flashbacks, Flower?


Stop it you guys - you are killing me here!

*ahem! cough cough*

Back on topic here - no bad flashbacks per se, it is moreso that I have different personal associations with that piece of music is all, and for me the visuals and the audio made a seriously imbalanced total effect on me is all....
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:40   Link #290
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"With this crappy girls band we won't be able to ride the coattails of this high school girl fad and earn the money to go to London after playing our hearts out for just one week, dammit!"

Danshi Koukousei, you had me at "Hello!"
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:43   Link #291
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This.

Girls can bully just as much as boys - it is just not presented a lot. In particular older siblings bullying younger siblings (including older sisters to younger brothers) is very common - I have had many friends and acquaintances tell me of this....
Or take a look at some shoujo mangas or visual novels, even if a bit exaggerated, I say 'girl' bullying is a lot more cruel and sadistic than boys bullying.
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Old 2012-02-07, 18:57   Link #292
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Or take a look at some shoujo mangas or visual novels, even if a bit exaggerated, I say 'girl' bullying is a lot more cruel and sadistic than boys bullying.
That's cause boys attack you physically, while girls attack socially or mentally.

A few bruises and a bloody lip is basically what you can expect from guys bullying (though obviously it can get pretty brutal if the guys go too far). You can survive it if you've got your bros.

While girls will endevor to isolate you and humiliate you.

If both guys and girls bully you, you're pretty much fucked.
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Old 2012-02-07, 19:04   Link #293
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Old 2012-02-07, 19:10   Link #294
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You mean they don't ? My four years in Secondary School and three more in Polytechnic were a lie ?!
You mean they do!?

Yikes, I guess I had it easy with the girls in my secondary school. In fact, I have personally experianced being bullied once or twice by guys in secondary school, and it was the girls who had defended me instead of joining in...not that I asked, they just noticed it whilst I tried ignoring it.

A crazy world we live in
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Old 2012-02-07, 19:13   Link #295
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That's cause boys attack you physically, while girls attack socially or mentally.

A few bruises and a bloody lip is basically what you can expect from guys bullying (though obviously it can get pretty brutal if the guys go too far). You can survive it if you've got your bros.

While girls will endevor to isolate you and humiliate you.

If both guys and girls bully you, you're pretty much fucked.
I agree with the above, although I wanted to say that first lol.

Back on topic: This episode...wow. There was some character development for the side characters and two of the main characters. Hidenori's "nooooo's" were hilarious! That caught me off-guard.

I feel so bad for Motoharu... the sister's friends even shaved his trademark off. I'm hoping he gets his revenge sometime in the future. I can't help but think that that was just a set-up for a future skit, hopefully.

It turns out Karasawa gave the girls in Ep4 expired sweets lol. So the scar's the main reason why he wears a hat all the time.

The reason why it's similar to Gintama and Sket Dance is due to the voice actors and the fact that they are all gag manga's.
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Old 2012-02-07, 19:16   Link #296
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"With this crappy girls band we won't be able to ride the coattails of this high school girl fad and earn the money to go to London after playing our hearts out for just one week, dammit!"
Is that an important reference or something? I didn't get that part.

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And I actually feel sorry for Habara. Clearly she learned her lesson already (only the two other girls were 'bullying' Karasawa), and she still feels guilty over the incident.
I concur. You can tell that she truly regret what she did in the past based on her behavior after seeing the scar. She even made an offering in a form of 5000 yen. XD

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My God! Why are girls in this anime so different from other girls in both other animes and real life? XD It's like the person who created this anime has seen or experianced girls do these kind of things and thinks that they do things like this.
Really? Different from other anime? Yes. Those series glorifies the females too much. Different from real life? No. From what I've observed, this series has a more realistic portrayal of the female gender since most girls are not elegant, pure, innocent, and pacifist which is contrary to the belief of others due to media conditioning. At least, once you know them on a personal level and they become comfortable around you, they'll start showing their true colors. Be mentally prepared by then especially when you go inside their room. D:

The part where Motoharu was treated like a toy by his sister's friends was quite realistic since it happens to a lot of people that I know. It happened to me a lot back then too since I also have TWO older sisters, that's why I can somewhat relate to that guy's situation a bit.
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Old 2012-02-07, 19:20   Link #297
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[spoiler=ep 5]

Is that an important reference or something? I didn't get that part.
The K-On! Movie, set in London.
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Old 2012-02-07, 19:22   Link #298
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I'm guessing all female seiyuus are having a blast doing this kind of stuff.The K-on reference was great.

And yes,in my family girls will beat you up
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Old 2012-02-07, 19:27   Link #299
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[spoiler=ep 5]

From what I've observed, this series has a more realistic portrayal of the female gender since most girls are not elegant, pure, innocent, and pacifist which is contrary to the belief of others due to media conditioning. At least, once you know them on a personal level and they become comfortable around you, they'll start showing their true colors. Be mentally prepared by then especially when you go inside their room. D:
Is that so? I guess I'm fortunate for not witnessing or experiancing stuff like that then yet

Thanks for the warning though

On topic:

I surprised at the amount of screen time Hidenori got in this episode. I expected Tadakuni to get a lot of screen time in this anime since at first he seemed like the main character, but in this episode he barely appeared

I guess you could say I do like how their not sticking to one character though.
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Old 2012-02-07, 19:28   Link #300
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Speaking as someone who has a 6 year older sister and had to deal with her and her friends since our house was the "hang out spot" for them after school, I sympathized wholeheartedly with Motoharu in this episode. That part of the episode hit very close to home.
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