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Old 2012-02-08, 05:55   Link #21
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Lol ...
Waited 3 weeks for that ? x_x
don't expect anything in one chapter...
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Old 2012-02-08, 06:04   Link #22
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This felt like a first chapter of a brand new series. I expect nothing less from Kubo after a three week break.
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Old 2012-02-08, 06:09   Link #23
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I like her character design. Bit like a foulmouthed badtempered crossover between Rukia and SoiFon

other than that can't comment much on this chapter without getting kinda aggro on in how far it is worth it for people like Kubo to take a three weeks break to get a better arc started...

A Quincy Arc involving supposedly a renegade Quincy faction going overboard, tying in Isshin and Ishida's dad as well as the King's Guard into the past history of it actually might make for a nice arc - if it were written well, that is
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Old 2012-02-08, 07:27   Link #24
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He just couldn't let those two die. What a wus...
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Old 2012-02-08, 08:07   Link #25
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Old 2012-02-08, 08:15   Link #26
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I thought the chapter was okay for the start of a new arc. Although I thought it was stated earlier that the Quincies were down to the last 2?

Anyways, it also completely makes the previous arc feel like a filler arc.
Oh but you didn't know kubo is good and randomly pulling things out of his rear somehow more of them survived
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Old 2012-02-08, 08:39   Link #27
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Well, Bleach is entering into its final arc. I'm not sure how I really feel about this at the moment. I just hope that it could go out with a decent bang (the battles from the last arc, especially Ichigo vs Ginjo, was just too anti-climatic). Also, I'm kind of surprised Kubo decided to use the Quincies (heavily implied to be them) as the last villains of the series.
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Old 2012-02-08, 08:59   Link #28
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I thought I would make a comment after such a long time, but wooo, Bleach is finally on it's final arc. Hopefully Kubo doesn't OD before he finishes
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Old 2012-02-08, 09:09   Link #29
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I think the last arc name isn't symbolism. I mean knowing Kubo it can really last thousand years
Also 2 new enemies at the beginning of the chapter with long hair?
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Old 2012-02-08, 09:11   Link #30
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Have the chapter in front of me... absolutely nothing of consequence happens.

The title of the final arc is:
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There are strong suggestions the Quincy are involved...*sigh*
nah, I'd say this is about a war between SS and the Hueco Mundo
shinigamis have been hunting down hollows for thousands of generations

IIRC, the quincy-shinigami war ended already (and I think this was the reason why there are only 2 of em left)

anyway, the figures looks like humans so.... Vasto Lorde?

with the hollow outbreak going on, I'd say they're trying to free Aizen
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Old 2012-02-08, 09:19   Link #31
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nah, I'd say this is about a war between SS and the Hueco Mundo
shinigamis have been hunting down hollows for thousands of generations

IIRC, the quincy-shinigami war ended already (and I think this was the reason why there are only 2 of em left)

anyway, the figures looks like humans so.... Vasto Lorde?

with the hollow outbreak going on, I'd say they're trying to free Aizen
Actually, if you look at the comment Mayuri made during the chapter, it heavily implies that the Quincies were responsible for the recent events happening in SS.
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Old 2012-02-08, 09:51   Link #32
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nah, I'd say this is about a war between SS and the Hueco Mundo
shinigamis have been hunting down hollows for thousands of generations

IIRC, the quincy-shinigami war ended already (and I think this was the reason why there are only 2 of em left)

anyway, the figures looks like humans so.... Vasto Lorde?

with the hollow outbreak going on, I'd say they're trying to free Aizen
It has been stated previously (at the beginning of the manga) that Quincy powers differ from Shinigami powers in that Quincies aim to destroy hollows while Shinigami purify them instead. Big difference. It was part of the original conflict between Ichigo & Ishida.
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Old 2012-02-08, 10:24   Link #33
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you guys have a point
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not to mention the clothes looks similar to what Uryuu's wearing. But the Espada were wearing white coats too so, I'm not too sure

what would Aizen's role be if this was another Shinigami-Quincy war
I'm pretty certain he'd make an escape somehow
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Old 2012-02-08, 10:26   Link #34
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finally it's here..... final arc of Bleach....
not a very amusing opening.... no more Afro-shinigami in Karakura... xD

it's better if they involve every faction in final arc.... Fullbringer's, Vizards, Shinigami, Ichigo's team, Quincy, and Arrancar (no one forget Nel, right?)
looking forward for this chapter.... maybe I can get excited again just like what Kubo-sensei has done for years
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Old 2012-02-08, 10:26   Link #35
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What's to say the Quincy stop being Quincy when they die?
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Old 2012-02-08, 10:43   Link #36
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i wonder how hes going to integrate aizen into the story arc.
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Old 2012-02-08, 10:46   Link #37
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i dont get it, what is a final arc? last arc of the series? or latest?

also, are there going to be any vasto lordes? (i want to see some vasto)
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Old 2012-02-08, 10:49   Link #38
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i dont get it, what is a final arc? last arc of the series? or latest?
the last arc
after this arc finishes, Bleach is done
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Old 2012-02-08, 11:32   Link #39
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Its's BS no matter how you look at it.

Kubo wrote himself into a corner; he created healing abilities for his characters that are so powerful that he no longer has an explanation for why someone can't be healed or revived... With what Orihime was able to do for Grimjow's arm and Menoly, there's no reason why she should not be able to do the same for Yamaji. We also have soi fon who lost her whole arm but still managed to get it back. Only possible explanation would be he's too prideful to get it healed, which is rather foolish since that means he is alloying himself, the strongest shimigami in SS, to go on with a handicap for no practical reason.

The fact that that there should be nothing stopping him from getting his arm healed tarnishes his "sacrifice".
No it's not BS-

sacrifice: To forfeit something for something else considered to have a greater value
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Giving up an arm means very little when you have the means to fix it
If it meant very little, because he could fix it......that would make it NOT a sacrifice and bullshit token act of heroism
Sacrifice does not mean giving up something for nothing; it means giving up one thing for something else we believe is worth more
There is a "No Back-sies" rule of Sacrifice. He can't get it back. He Sacrificed it. It can't be fixed because he didn't give it up, he didn't say --"this a temporary loan. I want my arm back after this is over with" He TRADED his arm for their lives

Kubo didn't write himself into a corner ---It-was-a-SACRIFICE


LOVED THE CHAPTER--but my pain over Bleach ending is keeping me from squeeing right now....
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Old 2012-02-08, 11:37   Link #40
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No it's not BS-

sacrifice: To forfeit something for something else considered to have a greater value

If it meant very little, because he could fix it......that would make it NOT a sacrifice and bullshit token act of heroism
Sacrifice does not mean giving up something for nothing; it means giving up one thing for something else we believe is worth more
There is a "No Back-sies" rule of Sacrifice. He can't get it back. He Sacrificed it. It can't be fixed because he didn't give it up, he didn't say --"this a temporary loan. I want my arm back after this is over with" He TRADED his arm for their lives

Kubo didn't write himself into a corner ---It-was-a-SACRIFICE
A sacrifice that doesn't need to be a sacrifice is kinda silly though really.

I can't imagine someone not wanting to have their limb back if they could, just because it would cheapen the their altruism, but that's probably because in Yamamoto's case we were never really given a reason why his logic would be so warped, removed from reality, different to what is common. And we've not been given any indication that that's what Yamamoto thought anyway (since we had to confirm his lost arm through an interview in the first place) so it's really just baseless speculation.

It seems like Kubo wrote himself into a corner really. It was essential a choice between a Fantastic Aesop and a Broken Aesop, of sorts.
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