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Old 2012-02-13, 15:47   Link #981
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Honestly, I'd rather have a perverted male harem lead than a dense one.

Dense ones just get very annoying after a while to me and really tend to have no real excuse for it. The only way it's redeemable to me is if they were raised up a certain way to make them grow up like that (like Naruto, given he had no parents or guardians to teach him anything in any long periods) or something happened to them to make them that way. But if they're your supposed "normal" boy, then being SO dense about it just doesn't seem nearly as realistic as the perverted ones. Sure they may go a bit over the top with the perversion at times, but the general idea feels more realistic since how often does anyone NOT have a perverted thought, much less over-the-top ones?

*glares at a certain Senou Natsuru of Kampfer origins* T_T
The dudes gender bent, that'd mess any guy in all sorts of ways. Ichika would probably be a better example.
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Old 2012-02-13, 16:03   Link #982
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LOL i never thought of that but you are completely right.
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The dudes gender bent, that'd mess any guy in all sorts of ways. Ichika would probably be a better example.
Nah Ichika is in a world of his own in the denseness level.
He either:
-Is a Harem master and play dumb
-Is a Siscon and don't give a heck
-Was raised by his sister that way, so he doesn't give a damn about girls
-Is stupid for story reasons

Still despite all that stuff I really like IS (read all novels), it just that if Ichika was less dense then he would already bone one of the IS girls and be with her, or he would go Makoto route.


Ise on the other hand is a little different, we need more *material* to understand him. Is he a normal teenager, or normal anime teenager, is he a H monster who would fuck anything that moves and looks like human, or is he dense pervert.
There's more to him than meets the eye, imo.
We need to see further into the story how perverted is he. Him talking about boobs and groping is one thing, but what if someone want to go all the way with him, what would he do then.
All I can say is lets wait and see if such a situation will occur and what would he do then.
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Old 2012-02-13, 16:10   Link #983
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*glares at a certain Senou Natsuru of Kampfer origins* T_T
God was he frustrating to watch. If it weren't for the voice actresses in that series it would have been a total loss. Yes, including Nakajima Megumi. She makes an awesome villain.

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We need to see further into the story how perverted is he. Him talking about boobs and groping is one thing, but what if someone want to go all the way with him, what would he do then.
All I can say is lets wait and see if such a situation will occur and what would he do then.
And if the anime deprives us of such a situation, we shall revolt

Seriously though, I think I'm reaching my limit with these ecchi series. It's like... it isn't enough anymore. Am I alone in this?
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God was he frustrating to watch. If it weren't for the voice actresses in that series it would have been a total loss. Yes, including Nakajima Megumi. She makes an awesome villain.
It was the times when they showed Kaede filling up his brain aside from 1 Akane face, but most importantly, his date with Shizuku that REALLY got to me in his case...

Guys like him can have a girl(s) strip down, throw him on a bed (or better yet, on a table in a public place), rip his pants off and declare that they want to do him right then and there and he'll just be all, "Huh? What are you talking about?" XD
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Old 2012-02-13, 16:34   Link #985
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Nah Ichika is in a world of his own in the denseness level.
He either:
-Is a Harem master and play dumb
-Is a Siscon and don't give a heck
-Was raised by his sister that way, so he doesn't give a damn about girls
-Is stupid for story reasons

Still despite all that stuff I really like IS (read all novels), it just that if Ichika was less dense then he would already bone one of the IS girls and be with her, or he would go Makoto route.


Ise on the other hand is a little different, we need more *material* to understand him. Is he a normal teenager, or normal anime teenager, is he a H monster who would fuck anything that moves and looks like human, or is he dense pervert.
There's more to him than meets the eye, imo.
We need to see further into the story how perverted is he. Him talking about boobs and groping is one thing, but what if someone want to go all the way with him, what would he do then.
All I can say is lets wait and see if such a situation will occur and what would he do then.
Nah Ise's probably like a lot of guys in many senses.


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God was he frustrating to watch. If it weren't for the voice actresses in that series it would have been a total loss. Yes, including Nakajima Megumi. She makes an awesome villain.

And if the anime deprives us of such a situation, we shall revolt

Seriously though, I think I'm reaching my limit with these ecchi series. It's like... it isn't enough anymore. Am I alone in this?
They're never going to actually show it, it's simply the nature of this show, the most you'll get is heavy implication. The only chance you'll ever see it is with the real hardcore shit.

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Old 2012-02-13, 16:48   Link #986
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Issei is rather 'pure' for all his ecchi-ness, which is all it really amounts to - just being ecchi. It's kind of the 'boys will be boys' thing that has been slammed under the 'sexual harrassment' zone thanks to 'too much info' being readily available.

It used to be an innocent thing but kids nowadays know too much so they had to lower the age bar on that...

Anyway, Issei's a pretty damn good guy despite his pervy streak. So what if he openly admires all the beauty and grace of the women that surround him on a daily basis? It's not like he doesn't have standards and ideals. The only reason he gets so far with Rias is because she allows him to and she also helps his over-active imaginations with her sleeping nude 'requirement'.
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Old 2012-02-13, 16:48   Link #987
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That spoiler is to heavy for anime thread, thats why I was more or less walking around the issue than posting about it like you ^^.

Ohh and H animes aren't shit as long as its not one of the Bestiality or NTR shit.
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Old 2012-02-13, 17:11   Link #988
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And if the anime deprives us of such a situation, we shall revolt

Seriously though, I think I'm reaching my limit with these ecchi series. It's like... it isn't enough anymore. Am I alone in this?
I said it before; the pole dancing in the ED describes DXD perfectly. Pole dancers are there to dance, to entice, but you are not allowed to touch them. They are not prostitutes. In the same way, DXD is about ecchi, not porn.

The point is it makes you horny, but never actually go all the way. That's the deal with pole dancing.
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Old 2012-02-13, 17:23   Link #989
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I can't let this glorious image go unnoticed any longer. I can't believe mangatron of all people didn't comment it. For shame!

Akeno looks absolutely stunning in those white stockings

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Old 2012-02-13, 17:45   Link #990
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I can't let this glorious image go unnoticed any longer. I can't believe mangatron of all people didn't comment it. For shame!

Akeno looks absolutely stunning in those white stockings

My work here is done.
Because that image is old, few weeks old at least.
I remember seeing it when I was making my avatar few weeks ago, it should also be somewhere in this thread, or in novel thread.
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Episode.6, what the? Steam censor on the butt? When Asia fell down there was no panty shot? You gotta be kidding me? lol At least there are alot of Rias fanservice.
Seriously, why have Asia trip over when there's no panty shot? That was totally pointless. anyway, at least we got to see Asia naked, two times even, which is much better than a panty shot!

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Anyways one thing I can describe this episode when they're doing demon contracts...Mahou Shou-Noooo~~!!! Or Creppy cosplayers....
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Either way signs of interest are there with Akeno with Issie in the ending, though even Issie maybe the typical kid that has perverted instincts, I like how he matured in a way about talking about love and dating with Rias.
Akeno? Interested in Issei? Hardly. Rias could quite possibly be interested in Issei, with her talk about "romantic relationship" and such, and her being absent minded at times...

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Honestly, I'd rather have a perverted male harem lead than a dense one.

Dense ones just get very annoying after a while to me and really tend to have no real excuse for it. The only way it's redeemable to me is if they were raised up a certain way to make them grow up like that (like Naruto, given he had no parents or guardians to teach him anything in any long periods) or something happened to them to make them that way. But if they're your supposed "normal" boy, then being SO dense about it just doesn't seem nearly as realistic as the perverted ones. Sure they may go a bit over the top with the perversion at times, but the general idea feels more realistic since how often does anyone NOT have a perverted thought, much less over-the-top ones?

*glares at a certain Senou Natsuru of Kampfer origins* T_T
Same here, like the perverted ones much better as well
They're more realistic indeed.
Dense ones can really go on your nerves with how totally dense they are. Pervert ones are much better there!

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Nah Ichika is in a world of his own in the denseness level.
He either:
-Is a Harem master and play dumb
-Is a Siscon and don't give a heck
-Was raised by his sister that way, so he doesn't give a damn about girls
-Is stupid for story reasons

Still despite all that stuff I really like IS (read all novels), it just that if Ichika was less dense then he would already bone one of the IS girls and be with her, or he would go Makoto route.
True. I'd say b and c applies for Ichika - he was raised by his sister to not care for other girls except her. However, it seems sometime later she lost interest in Ichika, but he's still got a siscon.

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Ise on the other hand is a little different, we need more *material* to understand him. Is he a normal teenager, or normal anime teenager, is he a H monster who would fuck anything that moves and looks like human, or is he dense pervert.
There's more to him than meets the eye, imo.
We need to see further into the story how perverted is he. Him talking about boobs and groping is one thing, but what if someone want to go all the way with him, what would he do then.
All I can say is lets wait and see if such a situation will occur and what would he do then.
I'd say he's a passive, shy pervert. Lots of horny phantasies, but no real courage to act them out. When he finally got the chance to fondle Rias' breasts, he was too nervous to do anything.

A good example for an active pervert would be Tomoki for Sora no Otoshimono. he also has lots of perverted fantasies, and he actively tries to realise them, often using Ikaros or her gadgets to spy at girls changing etc.
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Clothes eating slime and tentacle action = full of win!
oh, yes! Let's just hope they don't mess it up this time.
Looks like we'll be getting a couple of decent eps (including the 6th one) before the series inevitably reverts back to nipple-lasers and similar stuff.
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Considering Rias' extensive pondering about love and being depressed about what likely is her arranged marriage, I'd say her feelings on the matter don't really differ from the norm. Being turned in to a demon hasn't really changed Issei or Asia either, so from the looks of it, being a devil doesn't really carry any passive personality traits as part of the heritage.

As for Issei, I don't really get the feeling he would actually want a harem. Highschool male fantasies aside (of which he certainly has a lot of ), as his incident with Yuuma showed, he would actually cherish an actual relationship were he to find himself in one. Given the apparently strong opinions he has developed on 'purity' (for lack of a better term) of romance as result of said incident, no, I actually don't think he would be all that cool with the situation either.
I think there's an interesting juxtaposition at work here with Issei and Rias.

You have Rias pondering about what a real relationship is, whereas you have Issei who has been truly emotionally hurt from a false one. In essence, these two characters yearn for the same thing in life, and I think this will further draw themselves to one another in the end.

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What the heck man, if I was there, and Rias starts counting, I'm pouncing her, it's Glomp City, I'll be fondling her and mmmmmmotorboating like my neck is a power tool, and when she counted to five, she'd be like "times up" but my head would be buried in her big ones and I'll be like "what? I can't hear you, there's too much echoing in these mountains" and I'll keep doing what I'm doing until she tsuntsun punches me towards the skies and-.....
For some odd reason, I can easily imagine that. What was that saying again? Whoever pulls your head out of those will be crowned the next king of England..?
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Though I would NOT call this anime a typical harem anime, because so far, only Asia likes Issei in that way, and Rias likes Issei in another way, or at least the anime seems to be hinting something. I would not call that a harem, especially since Akeno and Koneko doesn't seem to give a damn about him, romantically of course.

Issei wanting to be a harem king doesn't mean that the anime is one either.

And so far, nothing typical harem cliche has happened O.o I don't recall Issei ever falling on any of the girls, nor has he stumbled on anyone naked accidentally, and none of the girls has even said the word pervert once.


And about typical harem leads, might I suggest people read the Trinity Seven manga for an awesome example of one of the BEST harem leads ever.
HSDxD quite unique in it's own way on the take of the story. I look at it as Issie building his own harem. Iam not looking yet on the LN and manga's so Iam all anime for now.

Koneko though at times hit him. Tough love?

Trinity 7 is a harem manga? Interesting....Will look at it

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^--So you're saying his parents are normally sane? But I thought only the fallen angels were the looney ones in this series. Makes me wonder what Yuuma's mind trick would result in...

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Let get this straight, you guys support that Issei wants to be a slut, but is too timid and inexperienced ending up in an awkward monogamous relationship, struggling to fend off competition
What else does it look like? If Issei didn't have a brain freeze and just fondled Rias' big ones like there's no tomorrow, then I would consider him a god among perverts. What was that saying they like to say in manga, something like "a real man must accept the meal before him" or whatever the distorted version was

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anyway, at least we got to see Asia naked, two times even, which is much better than a panty shot!
But her butt was so steamy!

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Same here, like the perverted ones much better as well
They're more realistic indeed.
Dense ones can really go on your nerves with how totally dense they are. Pervert ones are much better there!
Here's the difference between a pervert and a dense dude. The pervert has priorities, and he knows what he wants, while the dense dude doesn't know anything, much less what he wants

In the same way the pervert has an imaginative brain, whilst the dense dude has not much of a brain

And yet quite often anime is so cruel to show us the dense dude having the girls fawn over him, while the pervert gets punched, kicked, and severe loss of nasal blood

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...before the series inevitably reverts back to nipple-lasers and similar stuff.
Hey, don't jinx it!

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I can't let this glorious image go unnoticed any longer. I can't believe mangatron of all people didn't comment it. For shame!
There's always a reason for everything I do on this forum Like xatu said, I saw that image quite a ways ago (the bigger different one,thanks to Dahak).

Now normally I would have at least said something, but the more I see Akeno in all her glory in these pics, the more it frustrates me because............I have yet to see her like this in the anime, why oh why can't we at least see her take a shower
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Old 2012-02-14, 07:07   Link #997
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oh, yes! Let's just hope they don't mess it up this time.
Looks like we'll be getting a couple of decent eps (including the 6th one) before the series inevitably reverts back to nipple-lasers and similar stuff.
Nah it probably won't be reverting to that.

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What else does it look like? If Issei didn't have a brain freeze and just fondled Rias' big ones like there's no tomorrow, then I would consider him a god among perverts. What was that saying they like to say in manga, something like "a real man must accept the meal before him" or whatever the distorted version was

That's a bit harsh he did accept the meal, you have to remember all that took part in the space of 5 secs which really meant even if he jumped at second 1 he would have had all of 1 sec to enjoy it so he wanted to make that 1 second count and he would have gotten cock blocked anyway as he did when he made the leap. Really he got trolled in with the time limit. Especially after the shit he went through to get it.
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That's a bit harsh he did accept the meal, you have to remember all that took part in the space of 5 secs which really meant even if he jumped at second 1 he would have had all of 1 sec to enjoy it so he wanted to make that 1 second count and he would have gotten cock blocked anyway as he did when he made the leap. Really he got trolled in with the time limit. Especially after the shit he went through to get it.
Here's the gig: he was after those big ones since the infirmary scene. He agreed to Rias' request because of those big ones. He went through a lot for those big ones.(dare I say he didn't do a thing but suggest one verbal thought)

When it came time for the reward, you do not hesitate. You do not give a big giant "EEEEEHHH?" as if you didn't see it coming. You do not question the very reason why you went through all that. This guy, on his first death, had the balls to think about touching his killer's big ones, and he has to mentally prepare himself to touch the big ones of a nice, caring girl?

When your boss hands you your paycheck, do you say "EEEHHH? I need to prepare myself, and grab that paycheck in one swipe!"? Uh uh, I don't think so

Issei blew and he knew it
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Here's the gig: he was after those big ones since the infirmary scene. He agreed to Rias' request because of those big ones. He went through a lot for those big ones.(dare I say he didn't do a thing but suggest one verbal thought)

When it came time for the reward, you do not hesitate. You do not give a big giant "EEEEEHHH?" as if you didn't see it coming. You do not question the very reason why you went through all that. This guy, on his first death, had the balls to think about touching his killer's big ones, and he has to mentally prepare himself to touch the big ones of a nice, caring girl?

When your boss hands you your paycheck, do you say "EEEHHH? I need to prepare myself, and grab that paycheck in one swipe!"? Uh uh, I don't think so

Issei blew and he knew it
Actually he wasn't mentally preparirng himself for the big ones he was choosing which big ones to go for since he had a limited time limit and had to decide in that time limit. The whole point of his time wasting was he didn't know what to DO in that time limit rather than whether he was going to do it. Did you properly pay attention to scene, where he spent a sec deciding which boob to snuggle with.

It's like saying you could sleep with any woman you want from a line of beatiful women but you only had 5 seconds to decide. Your caught with a dilema if, you go for the the first one you see, she may be comparitively ugly and end being the one you didn't want to sleep with after all. It was 5 secs and Issei clearly had a lot more to decide in that 5 sec than you would. Considering he was a boob man and wanted to make the most of it rather than simply do it any old how. He went for quality rather than quantity which was what screwed him over. I would understand your point if he had 30 secs or even 20 secs but he had 5 secs regardless who you are your going to spend at least one sec analysing the situation even if knew it was coming, regardless of if you wanted to or not. Your brain simply doesn't work like that.

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There's always a reason for everything I do on this forum Like xatu said, I saw that image quite a ways ago (the bigger different one,thanks to Dahak).

Now normally I would have at least said something, but the more I see Akeno in all her glory in these pics, the more it frustrates me because............I have yet to see her like this in the anime, why oh why can't we at least see her take a shower
I see it was posted before the show aired, that explains why I never saw it until now (wasn't following this thread back then).

Akeno -as well as Koneko's- lack of screentime is indeed pretty frustrating. They should have them take a shower together to make up for it.
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