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Old 2012-02-20, 00:18   Link #19721
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Isn't the air-conditioning a central part of the NBC protection? Or do they only lack the cooling ability?
I guess the Singaporeans figure that when it comes to NBC warfare, their country would be gone anyway and thus protection isn't an issue.
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Old 2012-02-20, 00:30   Link #19722
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Yep it's that onerous and I've read the coverage, it's a small victory, but a victory nonetheless.
What, you don't register your car?

It's a rifle, for XXX's sake. They weren't even banning them.

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I found a New York Times' human interest piece on Greece, best known as the epicenter of the European financial crisis.

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By many indicators, Greece is devolving into something unprecedented in modern Western experience. A quarter of all Greek companies have gone out of business since 2009, and half of all small businesses in the country say they are unable to meet payroll. The suicide rate increased by 40 percent in the first half of 2011. A barter economy has sprung up, as people try to work around a broken financial system. Nearly half the population under 25 is unemployed. Last September, organizers of a government-sponsored seminar on emigrating to Australia, an event that drew 42 people a year earlier, were overwhelmed when 12,000 people signed up. Greek bankers told me that people had taken about one-third of their money out of their accounts; many, it seems, were keeping what savings they had under their beds or buried in their backyards. One banker, part of whose job these days is persuading people to keep their money in the bank, said to me, “Who would trust a Greek bank?”

The situation at the macro level is, if anything, even more transformational. The Chinese have largely taken over Piraeus, Greece’s main port, with an eye to make it a conduit for shipping goods into Europe. Qatar is looking to invest $5 billion in various projects in Greece, including tourism infrastructure. Other, relatively flush Europeans are trying to make “Greece the Florida of Europe,” Theodore Pelagidis, a Greek economist at the University of Piraeus, told me, referring in particular to plans to turn islands into expensive retirement homes for wealthy people from other parts of the continent. Whether or not the country pays its debts, he went on, other nations and foreign companies “now understand the Greek government is powerless, so in the future they will take over viable assets and run parts of the country by themselves.”

For months, Greece has sat at the epicenter of an economic crisis that is threatening the foundations of Europe and that has the potential to bring new waves of economic upset to America. The latest austerity plan meant to satisfy Greece’s creditors and allow for new infusions of financial aid may have averted involuntary default — and a global economic downturn — but will nonetheless make life for ordinary Greeks even more difficult. The plan reduces the minimum wage by more than 20 percent, mandates thousands of layoffs and reduces some pensions, probably ensuring that strikes and demonstrations will continue to be a feature of the Greek landscape.

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As usual, the New York Times is at its most commendable when it, and the USA, has no direct political stake to fight over, only good journalism to work on. This piece collects the journalist's experiences with individual Greeks and their families and how they're weathering the crisis. It really reveals the sense of reality in how people, hardworking, ordinary people, are victimized by systems which they cannot see, trends they cannot perceive, problems beyond their comprehension and the corrupt bargains of an elite they cannot, so far, depose. They work hard, they live their lives, dream their little dreams, and perhaps take some advantage of easy things at hand, not knowing what sort of devil's deal they were signing into. I am not sure what kind of Greece will come out of it, scorched, ruined, half-owned by China, or sunny as ever still, except that it will be a country of economists, where the taxi driver in Athens can teach you a thing or two about European economic data. They are forced to learn what most people in every country do not have to learn.

I cannot, in all honesty, blame the Greek people for the crisis, despite all the slurs of laziness and greed, even in the comment section of this very article. I can blame the Greek government, the Greek politicians, the Greek elite, the European financial elite, even Wall Street and the culture of greed it inflicts upon the world. But not the people. They are taking responsibilities already, just by living their everyday lives and struggling to move on. Even now they are still under an albatross, and however hard they work and however much they save, their fates will be decided in Brussels, in Berlin, in London, even in New York City -- in the hands of the people who read humans only as economic data, investments as numbers, and who are probably most responsible for everything that's going on there.

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Old 2012-02-20, 01:12   Link #19723
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The usual argument is that if the "government" knows where all the guns are, then either them (or usurping authority) now knows exactly where to go to disarm the public.

And we do know many governments in the world love an unarmed populace for less than noble reasons.
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Old 2012-02-20, 01:18   Link #19724
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Well, to no one's surprise, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the death penalty for the kid.

Well that was a waste of 12years of tax money.
Hang the heathen already.
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Old 2012-02-20, 01:38   Link #19725
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What, you don't register your car?

It's a rifle, for XXX's sake. They weren't even banning them.
Only because it's driven on the public road, and for Freedom's sake, would you at least act like you live in Nevada.

Otherwise, no I wouldn't register my car and none of my guns are registered and never will be.

If I had the money I'd mount one of these in bed my truck.

From the Las Vegas Nevada "Shot Show" Jan 2011.

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Old 2012-02-20, 02:01   Link #19726
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Only because it's driven on the public road, and for Freedom's sake, would you at least act like you live in Nevada.

Otherwise, no I wouldn't register my car and none of my guns are registered and never will be.

If I had the money I'd mount one of these in bed my truck.

You do know that guns sole purpose is to kill. Now do you think it is safe that every individual in society should have access to a gun easily regardless of their mental health?

If it were for me, I would make sure that every person in the world who wants to own a gun must pass a physiological evaluation before being allowed to buy one.
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:03   Link #19727
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Only because it's driven on the public road, and for Freedom's sake, would you at least act like you live in Nevada.

Otherwise, no I wouldn't register my car and none of my guns are registered and never will be.

If I had the money I'd mount one of these in bed my truck.

From the Las Vegas Nevada "Shot Show" Jan 2011.

That is a 40mm automatic grenade launcher right? Do you know how destructive they are? Why do you need one of those?

Oh right. Road hogs.
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:04   Link #19728
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Helps to keep the left lane properly cleared
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:05   Link #19729
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You do know that guns sole purpose is to kill. Now do you think it is safe that every individual in society should have access to a gun easily regardless of their mental health?

If it were for me, I would make sure that every person in the world who wants to own a gun must pass a physiological evaluation before being allowed to buy one.
Well that would exclude every socialist on the planet from buying one.

You knew that was coming...admit it.
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:09   Link #19730
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That is a 40mm automatic grenade launcher right? Do you know how destructive they are? Why do you need one of those?

Oh right. Road hogs.
Actually it's those friggin bubonic plague carrying praire-ratsdogs.

It's amazing how they can infest a field
Shooting them with a rifle is like "whack-a-mole," after the first shot they all hide.
Now a 40 milimeter would take care of that problem...hole or no hole.
Blow those little suckers right out of the ground.
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:10   Link #19731
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Helps to keep the left lane properly cleared
Shouldn't it be the opposite?

Oh wait, you silly Yanks drive on the wrong side of the road; we drive on the right.

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Actually it's those friggin bubonic plague carrying praire-ratsdogs.

It's amazing how they can infest a field
Shooting them with a rifle is like "whack-a-mole," after the first shot they all hide.
Now a 40 milimeter would take care of that problem...hole or no hole.
Blow those little suckers right out of the ground.
Load them with XM1060 thermobaric grenades and you will have no more road to drive again.
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:13   Link #19732
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Only because it's driven on the public road, and for Freedom's sake, would you at least act like you live in Nevada.
Alright, you got me there.

Though actually Las Vegas is big enough to contain subversive liberal elements coexisting with the mega-casinos and the gun ranges. Minorities, immigrants, college students (...I happen to be all three).
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:18   Link #19733
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You do know that guns sole purpose is to kill. Now do you think it is safe that every individual in society should have access to a gun easily regardless of their mental health?

If it were for me, I would make sure that every person in the world who wants to own a gun must pass a physiological evaluation before being allowed to buy one.
To be fair, we're talking about Canada here.
It's the one miraculous nation that has insanely high number of firearms per capita, yet unlike here in America, they are not pointing them at each other.

Their low gun crime rate despite having so much of it has always amused me.
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:20   Link #19734
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The usual argument is that if the "government" knows where all the guns are, then either them (or usurping authority) now knows exactly where to go to disarm the public.

And we do know many governments in the world love an unarmed populace for less than noble reasons.
The flip argument of this is its nice for the RCMP to know when the wife beating prick they're going to be up against might be armed.

Distrust of the state isn't as big a value in Canadian politics as American, except among the Conservative Party base (which is why this went through). It may help that few people in this country see the Canadian state as possessing much in the way of coercive power.
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:21   Link #19735
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Alright, you got me there.

Though actually Las Vegas is big enough to contain subversive liberal elements coexisting with the mega-casinos and the gun ranges. Minorities, immigrants, college students (...I happen to be all three).
I thought you were one of those lolicon gambling gods who hurl skin-slicing playing cards at mobsters, then use that "heroic" image to bribe little girls with marshmallow mahjong tiles.

Joking. I thought you are a resident of US of A throughout your entire life.

From what you have said though, Las Vegas sounds like a Prohibition Chicago today.
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Old 2012-02-20, 02:25   Link #19736
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Alright, you got me there.

Though actually Las Vegas is big enough to contain subversive liberal elements coexisting with the mega-casinos and the gun ranges. Minorities, immigrants, college students (...I happen to be all three).
They should shop at KVAR.
Has all the proper "Peoples" style of armaments.
Especially this sweet-pea:



Besides, more liberals are buying guns now then ever before...and that's a good thing.

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Interesting piece by Krugman.
Not sure if I agree with him or not, but it was informative.

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Old 2012-02-20, 03:05   Link #19737
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^Eh, not really. I am not fond of the gun crimes rate in Vegas, and certainly don't want to be a victim of one.

But as for Mr. Krugman, think of him as a very, very smart economist who has had enough with what his peers were doing to America that he "comes down" to become a regular columnist. He tends to be very bitter with the current state of affairs, uncompromisingly common-sensical, and not a single article of his online goes by without someone flaming him, but the United States would do much better if more people listen to the man.

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I thought you were one of those lolicon gambling gods who hurl skin-slicing playing cards at mobsters, then use that "heroic" image to bribe little girls with marshmallow mahjong tiles.
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Old 2012-02-20, 05:24   Link #19738
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To be fair, we're talking about Canada here.
It's the one miraculous nation that has insanely high number of firearms per capita, yet unlike here in America, they are not pointing them at each other.

Their low gun crime rate despite having so much of it has always amused me.
Maybe they all waiting for the day they'll use those guns to invade the US.
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Old 2012-02-20, 05:47   Link #19739
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Maybe they all waiting for the day they'll use those guns to invade the US.
What other use would we have for those F-35s we ordered?
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Old 2012-02-20, 06:23   Link #19740
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What other use would we have for those F-35s we ordered?
You should ask Harper this because the probability than they won't fit for the tasks they are destined for look rather high.

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