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Old 2012-02-04, 09:05   Link #1901
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I have the impression that Corona is anything but average, though
It's not about Corona being average, but rather the possibility that Miura is being 'average-ed' before Vivio.

Like I said earlier though, I wouldn't jump to conclusions until after the fight ends. Even though Miura's chances of winning is unlikely, given the nature of the competition, it wouldn't be at all surprising if Miura is given a...



moment before it ends. And maybe another flashback.
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Old 2012-02-06, 05:29   Link #1902
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About that theory of Sieglinde being identified with Miura because she started as an underdog. I found a key element that render said guessing almost completely unplausible. Sieglinde is called the undefeated champion for a reason. Se has never been properly defeated in an official match which means she never was an underdog.
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Old 2012-02-06, 05:44   Link #1903
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I understand what they were trying to do, they were trying to make Miura into a credible threat to Vivio by showing her overcome a superior oponent, and to make her into an actual character we could even root for. Wolkenritter instead of gadget drones, so to speak.

Problem is... they kinda too good a job at turning Miura into a character (we really like her), and not good enough a job (so far at least) in making Vivio seem in any danger. Sure, the numbers are going down rather evenly, but Miura's already had her trumph card attack shrugged off. Vivio's yet to even begin showing of hers.
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Old 2012-02-26, 12:59   Link #1904
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Old 2012-02-27, 08:27   Link #1905
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I have to wonder... with the supposed safety magic that is going on, why can't they include some sort of safety undergarments that are impervious to being destroyed? I think I know why this tournament is so popular: people await the inevitable clothing damage! Mica just had a bit of a wardrobe malfunction...

Edit: side note, I find myself interested in the girl with the gun that Einhart bashed in that one panel....
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Old 2012-02-27, 11:01   Link #1906
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I see your plothole and I raise you one: What the heck is up with Vivid's barrier jackets to begin with? Clothing damage has always been fairly minimal in any other fight, and those were the fights with people chopping at eachother with bladed weapons. Yet here the jackets practically disintegrate from the glancing blow of a punch.
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Old 2012-02-27, 11:23   Link #1907
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To be fair the only notable victims of this are Fate and Micaiah while both are using Jackets specifically designed to sacrifice defense in favour of a speed enhacement. Other fighter's jackets had also been damaged but not to the point of stripperific fanservice like the aformentioned two xDU
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Old 2012-02-27, 11:54   Link #1908
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ViVid = Stripperific Outfits and Adult Form/Mode (Aka SQUICK).
...and people wonder why I don't care to read more of it. =.=;;;
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Old 2012-02-27, 14:23   Link #1909
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You guys do know that this is an ecchi rated manga right...?
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Old 2012-02-27, 16:11   Link #1910
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We know, we're just jokingly poking at the plotholes this one is creating for the fanservice.
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Old 2012-02-27, 18:30   Link #1911
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It's hardly a plothole. A plothole suggests that it's relevant to the overall story in some way.
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Old 2012-02-27, 19:09   Link #1912
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Not a plothole, yeah. Just something a bit... odd, when you consider everything. It reminds me much of Akamatsu's fetish for clothing destruction in Negima. I know, we don't exactly read Vivid for plot, so I guess I'm just chafing a bit at how far they're going. Even Nanoha and Fate, despite the powerful direct attacks they took in S1, still had mostly intact outfits.

But perhaps that is part and parcel for the tournament....

Official: "And sign right here as well..."
Vivio: *while signing* "What's this one?"
Official: "Oh, nothing much. Just that you agree to the terms of partial or full nudity may occur during the tournament and any pictures or video arising from such a situation are the sole property of the Tournament to use for promotion, third-party deals, etc..."
(Corona reddens considerably while Rio puts a finger to her lips and does a thoughtful "Hmmm..."))
Vivio: *pauses and blinks* "Ummm... the safety magic doesn't cover that?"
Official: "Cover it? It's a large reason why the tournament is so popular, especially once we focused on recruiting mainly young, female mages!"
Nanoha: "Just sign it and let's go, dear. You do realize what happens when you transform, right? And have you seen your Fate-mama's Sonic Form? Doesn't exactly leave much to the imagination."
Fate: "...Hey!"
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Old 2012-02-27, 19:27   Link #1913
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Well I guess you can justify Lu's ridiculous Barrier Jacket Lingerie as the tournament organizers attempt at gaining more fans spectators
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Old 2012-02-27, 19:30   Link #1914
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It's hardly a plothole. A plothole suggests that it's relevant to the overall story in some way.
Point taken. Inconsistency then.

And yeah, it does justify Lu's outfit. I mean, if there's a big chance you're gonna lose it anyway there's no reason to dress according to public standards in the first place.
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Old 2012-02-27, 19:34   Link #1915
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I guess Lu-chan is trying the theory that says your defensive clothes's effectiveness is inversely proportional to the amount of skin it covers xDU
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Old 2012-02-27, 19:35   Link #1916
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So if Vivio removes all her clothes... does that mean her defense is so high? (XD lol the girls will nosebleed XD)
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Old 2012-02-27, 19:37   Link #1917
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That does explain Zafira's fundoshi in the PSP game. Guardian beasts need the high defense.
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Old 2012-02-27, 21:17   Link #1918
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Actually, stripping increases your dodge stat.

In Lutecia's case at least, that bloomer type thing she wears is optimal for unhindered movement.
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Old 2012-02-27, 21:24   Link #1919
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Let's not get into the argument about that being justified again.
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Old 2012-02-27, 21:52   Link #1920
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Then why bother questioning it?
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