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Old 2012-02-25, 20:28   Link #3381
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Because he's the main character of a popular series? Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon sells pretty good.
I was sort of joking, but from what little I saw of Horizon, the main character is like Saito from ZnT, only more annoying.
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Old 2012-03-01, 22:20   Link #3382
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Isn't Guilty Crown scheduled for a second season?
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Old 2012-03-01, 22:32   Link #3383
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Isn't Guilty Crown scheduled for a second season?
Don't think so.
They will only make Visual novel, about events in Lost Christmas, with different characters.
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Old 2012-03-01, 22:52   Link #3384
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Really? I could swear this article said that there would be a season 2...

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...n-guilty-crown

It says that they are going to be doing 2 seasons for this show doesn't it?
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Old 2012-03-01, 23:08   Link #3385
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Really? I could swear this article said that there would be a season 2...

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...n-guilty-crown

It says that they are going to be doing 2 seasons for this show doesn't it?
I think you get it wrong.
Most of the time in anime everyone considers 1 cour as season.
12+/- eps are considered as 1 cour.

In GC case you get 24+/- eps which gives you 2 cours.

Possibly its just misunderstanding 2 cours for 2 seasons, which can be right as 1st season was first eps before Tokyo Explosion and 2nd season is now after Tokyo explosion.
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Old 2012-03-02, 13:39   Link #3386
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I think you get it wrong.
Most of the time in anime everyone considers 1 cour as season.
12+/- eps are considered as 1 cour.

In GC case you get 24+/- eps which gives you 2 cours.

Possibly its just misunderstanding 2 cours for 2 seasons, which can be right as 1st season was first eps before Tokyo Explosion and 2nd season is now after Tokyo explosion.
I've seen a lot of people misinterpreting the 2 cours for 2 seasons.

As for episode 19, well I think everyone knew he was getting some sort of new arm since the intro is a big spoiler haha. It's a double edged sword, unfortunately
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Old 2012-03-08, 21:53   Link #3387
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I just have to say it, episode 20 was the best episode (or one of the best) that we have seen so far.
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Old 2012-03-11, 09:12   Link #3388
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Old 2012-03-22, 15:38   Link #3389
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Ok, the anime ended.
But...
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Old 2012-03-22, 22:03   Link #3390
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^Because the writers obviously thought he needed to suffer MORE.

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Old 2012-03-22, 22:20   Link #3391
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I can't summon any energy to argue why he became blind or why that's relevant and such. Maybe in a few days.
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Old 2012-03-22, 22:35   Link #3392
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^Because the writers obviously thought he needed to suffer MORE.
Yes the writers don't want to give him a break.
I understand that Shu can be considered a "guilty king" because of his power/"guilty crown" to use voids etc.
But the guy is suffering non-stop since the first episode to the last.
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Old 2012-03-22, 22:40   Link #3393
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I can't summon any energy to argue why he became blind or why that's relevant and such. Maybe in a few days.
I have just thought a theory:
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Old 2012-03-22, 22:53   Link #3394
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I think it's more about the world the Da'at would like to create. When I turned completely into crystal, he saw Gai (the almost-nice one) who talked about the memories trapped into crystal etc it this world.

I think that because he saw that he turned blind, allowing him to leave with the memory of Inori beside/inside him.
Don't know if I'm clear (cause it's also a bit messy in my head)...
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Old 2012-03-23, 00:09   Link #3395
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That ending was a face palm..., like this whole freakin series. No one deserves an ending like that. If I was Shu, I would have preferred to die with Inori.

The funny thing was that I was getting excited when Shu said that he's going together with Inori (die together) because it was matching perfectly with everything going around including Gai and Mana's death. Then no...., we see Shu's conscious and Inori goes bye bye...., leaving Shu all alone in this world to rot to his death.
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Old 2012-03-23, 06:33   Link #3396
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Inori leave Shoes behind to suffer more blind and cripple with one mech hand.

WELL at least the writer give a good reason for AyasexShu ending
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Old 2012-03-23, 09:49   Link #3397
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If Funimation ever dubs this series, I might check it out just to see if I like this series better in the English language, as there have been some series where the English language improved my view on it (Black Lagoon, Darker than Black, Eureka Seven, and such).
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Old 2012-03-23, 11:43   Link #3398
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I hope Guilty Crown will have some type of selling point in Japan. If it's well liked (even with the BS ending) and the sells are high in Japan, I really would like to see an OVA series or even maybe a movie along the lines of Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha the Movie First or The Gurren-hen movie from TTGL, re-explaining (rewriting) the whole series.

GC really does have the potential to be great, but was ruined because of the horrible plots, bad writing....etc.
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Old 2012-03-23, 12:29   Link #3399
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Here goes my post-mortem.

What did GC get right? The art direction, the sound direction, and the music direction. The art direction is stunning. Yes, at times the execution on those ideas went "quality" on us, but coming up with cool things to draw is more important, and GC really shined when it came to establishing its unique look. I expect it to be very influential on future productions for this reason alone. The sound design -- things like sound effects, etc. -- and of course the musical score are similarly fantastic, and I can't really find much real fault with them.

What did GC get wrong? Well, a lot of different things, but I'm going to focus on two large issues that I think are responsible for most of the rest of what went wrong. The summary: creative team had good ideas but weren't actually good at the mechanics of writing. Additionally, creative team had good ideas, but too many of them, and had terrible judgment about which to keep and which to discard.

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So, tl;dr: good with ideas, bad at writing; good ideas, but too many of them, and bad judgment about which to keep and which to toss. End result: a huge mess. Granted, it's a mess with with lots of interesting parts mixed into it, but it's still more a mess than anything else. Still wouldn't be surprised if it's eventually an "inspirational mess" that influences a lot of future creations.
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Old 2012-03-23, 13:08   Link #3400
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Yeah, I agree almost entirely with miketyson.

The GC writing staff are the writing equivalent of good strategists, horrible tacticians. Very good at the "big picture" level but really bad on details.

And when you're being this ambitious, you need to be very good on the details for everything to come off well.

Yoshino should be a sounding board/adviser for an actual good writer.

His job should simply be to say "Hey, here's an idea!", and then have somebody else actually implement it (or rule it out, in more extreme cases).


That being said, I'm not sure how seriously we're supposed to take all of these characters. Ultimately, Daryl felt like little more than a plot device character to me (primarily a character to play needed roles in various conflicts, mostly antagonistic roles). And as a pure plot device character, I guess he was useful.
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