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Old 2012-03-07, 15:49   Link #8161
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Just finished catching up.

So I've heard that there's also a Needless 1.5 and Needless Zero. I'm guessing Zero is a prequel, but what is Needless 1.5? A spinoff?
Needless 0 is a volume that contains a bunch of side stories and prequels to the serialized manga. One of those stories (actually the first one) is Needless 1.5 which takes place before Needless 2 starts. Like Thor said, it takes place 2 years after the current Needless timeline.
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Old 2012-03-07, 15:52   Link #8162
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Shadow5YA@ Exactly like Avvesione and thor94 say needless 1.5 take place 2 year after what we read now and we show us the new mc Adam N(the N is for Eve surname.)
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Old 2012-03-07, 16:50   Link #8163
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where is it said, that needless 2, take place in the futur?
We have no indications for this chapter and according to the anime, needless 2 takes place in past (appear in flashback in episode 10)
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Old 2012-03-07, 16:55   Link #8164
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Old 2012-03-07, 16:58   Link #8165
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where is it said, that needless 2, take place in the futur?
We have no indications for this chapter and according to the anime, needless 2 takes place in past (appear in flashback in episode 10)
You give the anime credit, the ANIME???

What Soji quoted.
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Old 2012-03-07, 17:04   Link #8166
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thks, but it's really confused.
No blade in 1.5 (mom is the only needless 1 character), and in needless 2, there are no needless 1.5 characters and blade/setsuna/kurumi are only characters of needless 1.

Cruz does not appear in needless 1.5 and needless 2
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Old 2012-03-07, 17:09   Link #8167
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So what? That means nothing. For example, we know from Imai's official website that Eve is alive in Needless 2.

The absence of Blade and many of the characters from the main cast is irrelevant. If they aren't shown is simply because the author doesn't want us to find what happened to them. Not to mention it would ruin the tension from the current and final arc of Needless part 1. But I repeat, they not appearing in the later timeline means absolutely nothing.

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Old 2012-03-07, 17:27   Link #8168
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Old 2012-03-07, 17:31   Link #8169
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Old 2012-03-07, 17:41   Link #8170
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what resistance? what casualities?
Cruz is the only members alive (other have been decimated by simeon at start of story)
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Old 2012-03-07, 17:45   Link #8171
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^ Blade's Faction is also called "The last Resistance", hence why.
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Old 2012-03-07, 18:00   Link #8172
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what casualties?
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Old 2012-03-07, 18:15   Link #8173
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I'm going to stop here, because we aren't going anywhere with this discussion.
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Old 2012-03-07, 18:18   Link #8174
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Old 2012-03-07, 18:25   Link #8175
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Sorry but no. Sacred Sword of the Reaper is from Needless 1 and is the prologue prior to the beggining of Needless. In there, Blade & Seth are travelling through the Black Spot and doing assigments they are given. This is the chapter where they meet Solva and Kana for the first time.

You should check back chapter 24 for more info, and chapters 72, 73 and 74 from the same.

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Old 2012-03-07, 18:28   Link #8176
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ok!!!!!!!!!
then, needless 2 chapters/preview does not exist yet?
It's only a title for next arc after needless 1.5
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Old 2012-03-07, 18:31   Link #8177
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^Yep. Needless part 2 hasn't even begun yet, chapter 1.5 serves as the prologue.
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Old 2012-03-07, 18:34   Link #8178
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ok!!!
Because, i read in different forum (and this) when we ask information about needless 1.5 and 2, they redirect to chapter 1.5 and 2 of volume 0.
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Old 2012-03-08, 13:56   Link #8179
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Perhaps a little more clarification is in order, regarding that timeline.

The original Needless story was a 2000 page doujin written way back when Imai was still at school, and other than a few images on the artist's website, no one apart from his friends and family has ever seen it. It falls into two parts, with two different protagonists:

Needless 1: Adam Blade (male)
Needless 2: Adam Neuschwanstein (female) (because it's a pain typing all that, we shortened it to ANn...)

The current Needless story is based on this doujin, but how closely (or not) is anyone's guess. According to the author, Cruz, Arca, Saten and Uten are all new characters, which I suspect has made quite a difference to the plot... BTW, the diagram posted by Adan was published about the same time as chapter 40, and the story is now (probably) approaching the end of part 1.

Later came another doujin called BLACK SPOT which features characters called Cain and Abel. You can read the first 2 chapters on the website, and apparently the book is (or was) available to buy... but AFAICT it isn't canon as far as the current story is concerned.

The professional publication of Needless in Ultra Jump started with a number of one-shots which were later collected into a volume titled Needless Zero. Its contents are:
  1. Needless 1.5 - the prologue to Needless 2, introducing Cain and ANn.
  2. Sacred Sword of the Reaper ("Death god's holy sword" in the diagram above) - prologue to Needless 1, introducing Blade.
  3. Second Sight - none of the characters from this story have appeared in Needless 1. It remains to be seen whether any of them will turn up in part 2.
  4. Egoic Lotus - ditto.

After Needless proper began serialisation, several more side stories were published, and these were collected into another Zero volume, Needless Zero II. (You can see how all these numbers might cause confusion...) Its contents:
  1. Genesis
  2. Burning Knuckle
  3. Killer Girls
  4. Horror House
  5. Goldilocks - not shown in the diagram, follows chapter 16
  6. Fire Diamond - precedes the main story

I think that covers everything. Hope it helps.
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Old 2012-03-08, 14:23   Link #8180
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Second Sight, Egoic Lotus, as well as the Black Spot spinoff protagonized by Cain are all featured in Needless 2, which has yet to begin.

Though they still haven't made a official appearance in the story, the main characters from Second Sight and Egoic Lotus are featured along with other needlesses in the very first page from the very first chapter, and in the index page from one of the published volumes.
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