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Old 2012-01-10, 07:36   Link #41
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Shirou is still adopted by Kiritsugu in this world. I don't think they give a time for him to be adopted.
10 years ago, just like in FSN. At least, according to Ilya when she explains it to Ruby.

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That points, oddly, to her being Illya. Aside from the same birthday, Illya in Fate/Stay Night...Shirou is adapted and becomes her brother. She goes overseas to live in Europe. Her father dies. She comes back to Japan. It was just the three of them since Irisviel was dead by then.
FSN Ilya never left the Castle prior to the grail war, so it negates the similarity there.

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Illya was with the Einzberns and I guess would have had issues with Shirou for taking daddy away.
She actually hated both of them. Shirou only by extension, but she believed (through brainwashing and half-truths) that Kiritsugu betrayed her family.

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I thought that was a subtle jab that the Tohsaka paternal grandmother might have been an Edelfelt even in an AU?
Great-grandmother maybe, and I assumed that was still the case, but I don't know if that was the intended jab since it was more about her Japanese side than her non-Japanese side.
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Old 2012-01-10, 09:05   Link #42
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After seeing so many positive remarks i started reading the Manga ..
Only at chapter 7 but damn the manga is really growing on me! Even though i think its a little 'cliche' [is that even the right word?] ..

But the thought of the Family being all together is just too for me not to read the Manga. Just picturing Shiro+Illya+Irisviel+Kiritsugu living a normal/happy life = mindblown.

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There were some characters though that i didn't get at first till i did some wiki-ing like Liz at the beginning and Luvia. I only watched F/Z & F/SN. Didn't really play the games and only got to know Luvia by playing the psp game. So yeah ..
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Old 2012-01-10, 09:25   Link #43
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The more I read your posts and the more I think about it, the more the theory that Miyu is from an alternate universe makes sense. It's definitely withing the realm of possibilities with Zelretch being involved in this story (even if he's only got a minor role).

And guys, it's Miyu, not Miya

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I thought that was a subtle jab that the Tohsaka paternal grandmother might have been an Edelfelt even in an AU?
Unless the original wording was completely different, what she was saying is that her father is Japanese while her mother is not.
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After seeing so many positive remarks i started reading the Manga ..
Only at chapter 7 but damn the manga is really growing on me! Even though i think its a little 'cliche' [is that even the right word?] ..
It is a bit cliche, yes, but that is done on purpose for the sake of parodying the staples of magical girl manga/anime. The chapter where Miyu transfers to Illya's school (Illya even commnents on how cliche this development is) and is portrayed as a total Mary Sue was a good example. Such a funny chapter.
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Old 2012-01-10, 11:41   Link #44
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Beach Chapter... LOVE

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Old 2012-01-10, 20:01   Link #45
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Beach Chapter... LOVE

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I love Bazett, the Berserker woman. <3
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Old 2012-01-11, 02:12   Link #46
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Went through it again and could not find anymore clues.
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Old 2012-01-17, 21:49   Link #47
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Having seen chapter 20 in Russian it is a flashback of when Luvia first met Miyu. Like Illya with Ruby Sapphire made a contract with Miyu already upon Luvia's arrival. She was already in her magical girl form. No clues it seems to her origin.

On the otherhand Irisviel knows about the Cards.

Given what we know in Fate Stay the Einzberns prepared the grail vessel, the Tousaka's created the Servant system while the Makiri/Matou made the command spells.

Here is what we know in Fate Kalied the Einzbern, Tousaka and Makiri didn't work together to create the holy grail war.

More like they did things independently.

If the the Cards are unknowingly to Rin are her family's creation then probably they had their own attempt to independently reach Akasha. It didn't work.

Speculation on Miyu:

Considering Sakura Matou exists the Makiri/Matou family is in Fuyuki. Which brings to question as to why?

The Einzberns and Zouken Matou in FSN wanted only to complete the grail to manifest the Third Magic. Being in Fuyuki had an effect on the Makiri bloodline.

If such is true here also then perhaps Miyu is another Lesser Grail. Think about it Illya is the Einzbern grail. Maybe she is the Matou grail.

Caren calls Miyu an accident. Kuro says Miyu isn't human like Rin and Luvia.

What did Zouken do in FSN to recreate a Lesser Grail? He used the tainted pieces of the grail to create worms which he used on Sakura to be the extra grail besides the Einzbern's homunculus.

It could be Miyu is a homunculus created the same time Illya was born. Only she is a Matou attempt with some implanted memory.
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Old 2012-02-14, 10:33   Link #48
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New chapter is out and it's just as hilarious as the previous one.

Issei is confirmed to be gay for Shirou. Kuro was right to mark him as an "enemy" in her little chart. My favorite part of the chapter was Shirou's rant about Rin's zettai ryouiki. The man knows his stuff.
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Old 2012-02-14, 20:16   Link #49
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...Chapter 19 is nothing but over-the-top insanity. It's madness. Absolute madness. And for some reason I have an overwhelming desire to kill those extra girls from Illya, Kuro, and Miyu's class.

By the way, girls Illya's age should not be shown in poses like the one she's in for the cover art. Ye gods.
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Old 2012-02-14, 22:20   Link #50
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Crazy.


And Ruby's normal personality comes out...for probably the first time in this series since leaving Rin. And Sapphire calls Ruby on it even.

I want some more Iris thought. Lulz MILF is best in tis series.
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Old 2012-02-17, 20:22   Link #51
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And Ruby's normal personality comes out...for probably the first time in this series since leaving Rin. And Sapphire calls Ruby on it even.
Makes me question what the heck Zelretch was thinking when he made that wand.

Goodness Mimi thought Illya is an incestuous slut. Well not really Kuro was Illya and a part of her. So that's self-cest...Probably. As for Shirou it isn't well known yet they are not blood related.

Damn Shirou is pimp. Another girl?! LOL at the the truth he is tempted by Luvia's boobs and Rin's Zettai Ryouiki. Maybe a lolicon if he further blabbed.

Issei is called an meddlesome in-law by Rin. Which fits his characterization in Carnival Phantasm.
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Old 2012-03-11, 00:31   Link #52
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Anime adaptation confirmed

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/5977197.html
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Old 2012-03-11, 00:40   Link #53
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.....hell

Illya's got Main Character status now.

Who needs a route when you have the harem?


Who's animating it though?
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Old 2012-03-11, 02:28   Link #54
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An Ilya series. I don't know whether I should feel guilty or be in tears.
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Old 2012-03-11, 08:22   Link #55
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Old 2012-03-11, 09:17   Link #56
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Old 2012-03-11, 09:17   Link #57
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I have to say, HECK YES. Though, I suppose this will just adapt 'Season One' and not Zwei...
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Old 2012-03-11, 09:33   Link #58
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Amazing. Hopefully it sells well and we can get Zwei and some Kuro awesomeness as well!
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Well, Zwei not only has Kuro, but all those lovely parts with Bazette living up to her reputation as a monster being able to go toe-to-toe with Servants.
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