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[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Thats why I say ability/companions as well.

Regardless, its not like this was the first time we know about Touma's bad luck which btwnever seem to affect his combat luck before.

Plus all these luck explanations has always seem dodgy to me...

Originally Posted by Mr.Kyon

No words can describe how glad I am that Touma finally met his match and got told to GTFO this hard.

Are you new here kyon? How many 'finally met his match' does this make already?

Originally Posted by faiz blaster

Managed to get a hold of a few spoilers that I believe some will be interested in.

Spoiler for spoilers:

1. In the late stages of the story, there was a fight between Maria (the maid girl) and Marian (the "dwarf" girl). The two were somewhat even at first, but things turned pretty much one-sided after Marian brought out Dainsleif.

2. At one point, Dainsleif's powers of inducing suicide started to affect even the public that was watching the fight. Marian was forced to put a barrier around the ring in order to prevent a killing spree from occurring in the stadium.

3. That cool pic of Touma actually shows him breaking Marian's barrier to join the fight. Incidentally, he managed to completely seal away Dainsleif's suicide-inducing powers just by being there - without even doing anything special (it seems that the reasoning behind it was that everyone's minds were protected by the simple knowledge that something that could possibly oppose that magic sword existed).

By the way, this volume's pics somewhat remind me of volume 15.

See? Always a catch... But doesn't this means that Touma saved Maria ?

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

See? Always a catch... But doesn't this means that Touma saved Maria ?

Yet another flag as been raised.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Yet another flag as been raised.

Big sister Seria might not be pleased

[faiz blaster]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

See? Always a catch... But doesn't this means that Touma saved Maria ?

Why do you think that all those assumptions of Maria having a hero-worship over Touma suddenly started to appear?

[desrtsku]

Hurray js06!! A fast translator is indeed the best for the work of a fast writer ... anyway I still can't believe Kamachi killed known-face girls >.> ... and according to the pictures all the Kihara died!! WHY?!!

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Originally Posted by shmaster

Just remembered to comment on this.
Othinus is actually a very bad match for Touma.

Spoiler:

Because of Touma misfortune.
Othinus can crush Touma twice (the right hand, and what's in the right hand) in a row without fail is, as commented by Ollerus, something close to a miracle. And Ollerus suggest that it is because Touma is so unlucky that this happened.
Play coin toss with bad luck is a baaaaad idea.

ARGH!!

Originally Posted by zeniselv

this is the chance of someone with zero chance, and a lot of luck to shine, GO HAMAZU(DU)RA!!

ARGH!! I can already hear the fandom's complaints !!

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by zeniselv

in the end what was said about the thing inside touma?

Nothing. Ollerus also attached the crushed right hand back.
So yeah, the spoiler where Fiamma absorbed Touma's fallen right hand to get his power back is false.

[hao-sama]

Originally Posted by desrtsku

Hurray js06!! A fast translator is indeed the best for the work of a fast writer ... anyway I still can't believe Kamachi killed known-face girls >.> ... and according to the pictures all the Kihara died!! WHY?!!

they're not necessarily dead, some may be just defeated (like in volume 15). i doubt that though.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by faiz blaster

Why do you think that all those assumptions of Maria having a hero-worship over Touma suddenly started to appear?

When did those assumptions happen? I only thought she would serve as his personal maid due to the not-so-subtle foreshadowing from NT2...

[Shadow5YA]

Wow, everyone in Gremlin is like built to counter Touma.

FUKOU DA~

[Master Assassin]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Yet another flag as been raised.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Big sister Seria might not be pleased

Seria needs to check on her sister. A LOT. Put Academy City's focus on Touma aside first, get her little sister a checking. The next moment she won't see coming s the moment a little sister gets better than an elder sister.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

When did those assumptions happen? I only thought she would serve as his personal maid due to the not-so-subtle foreshadowing from NT2...

... You seem to be, urm, level-headed enough to see that in that context. I'd like to have more of that ability of yours...

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

When did those assumptions happen? I only thought she would serve as his personal maid due to the not-so-subtle foreshadowing from NT2...

Eh, I never came to that conclusion. I'm certain Touma wouldn't be submitting applications for a maid starting from his return to before the tournament.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Eh, I never came to that conclusion. I'm certain Touma wouldn't be submitting applications for a maid starting from his return to before the tournament.

Do you think that if Maria wanted Touma to be her employer, she would ask permission? She seems the type that would go ahead and do it anyway.

Speaking of Maria, I wonder what her power is? I know Marian probably isn't a combat specialist, but the fact tha she was doing well against her is impressive.

[Sumeragi]

About Kumokawa Maria

Spoiler for So, you want to know about a certain maid:

A dojikko-like girl whose clothes are similar to those of the fake maids handing out tissues at Akihabara. The uniform was made by herself, on the concept of a miniskirt combined with a fluorescent corset. The bunny-shaped pad on her skirt is her name tag. As noted, she's the imouto of Kumokawa Seria and attends Ryouran Maid School.

She uses a fighting style that combines capoeira, break dancing, and pole dancing. She's good at both literary and martial arts, and is among the top in her school. Her ideal master is a master who is inferior to her.

She's a Level 2 user of "Violence Donut" , being able to increase from 0.5 to 2 times the centrifugal force. The esper ability by itself isn't much, but it works perfectly with her fighting style, to the point that she's able to give as much impact as a car crashing into an object, and is also very useful when throwing weapons. However, because her muscles and bones stay the same, the harder she moves the harsher that pain that seems to be that of her bones breaking.

Her slogan is "I have talent, but I'll be in trouble if I have no immunity I finally do end up in a truly bad predicament." Because of this she works to not have her pride touched while also preferring attacks that crush other's pride. One method she uses is using her hips to press on the opponent, but this is usually something lucky for the one being pressed.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Soul Assassin

Seria needs to check on her sister. A LOT. Put Academy City's focus on Touma aside first, get her little sister a checking. The next moment she won't see coming s the moment a little sister gets better than an elder sister.



... You seem to be, urm, level-headed enough to see that in that context. I'd like to have more of that ability of yours...

Ehh? Is it really that special ?

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Eh, I never came to that conclusion. I'm certain Touma wouldn't be submitting applications for a maid starting from his return to before the tournament.

Its like you've said, Maria's ideal master is someone inferior to her and back in NT2 she expressed interest in the friend that Maika was describing as someone that gets into alot of trouble or something like that.

That person of course was Kamijou.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

About Kumokawa Maria

Spoiler for So, you want to know about a certain maid:

A dojikko-like girl whose clothes are similar to those of the fake maids handing out tissues at Akihabara. The uniform was made by herself, on the concept of a miniskirt combined with a fluorescent corset. The bunny-shaped pad on her skirt is her name tag. As noted, she's the imouto of Kumokawa Seria and attends Ryouran Maid School.

She uses a fighting style that combines capoeira, break dancing, and pole dancing. She's good at both literary and martial arts, and is among the top in her school. Her ideal master is a master who is inferior to her.

She's a Level 2 user of "Violence Donut" , being able to increase from 0.5 to 2 times the centrifugal force. The esper ability by itself isn't much, but it works perfectly with her fighting style, to the point that she's able to give as much impact as a car crashing into an object, and is also very useful when throwing weapons. However, because her muscles and bones stay the same, the harder she moves the harsher that pain that seems to be that of her bones breaking.

Her slogan is "I have talent, but I'll be in trouble if I have no immunity I finally do end up in a truly bad predicament." Because of this she works to not have her pride touched while also preferring attacks that crush other's pride. One method she uses is using her hips to press on the opponent, but this is usually something lucky for the one being pressed.

Level 2? That's really surprising, I would have thought she was a Level 4.

Also, about that fighting style, I can understand the capoeira and the break dancing, but pole dancing? Really?

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Its like you've said, Maria's ideal master is someone inferior to her and back in NT2 she expressed interest in the friend that Maika was describing as someone that gets into alot of trouble or something like that.

That person of course was Kamijou.

Yes, but to me her endless talks were more of a self-congratulatory thing than anything serious.

Originally Posted by Endscape

Also, about that fighting style, I can understand the capoeira and the break dancing, but pole dancing? Really?

It's the same principle. You swing around on a pole and hit people. Not a difficult concept, and something that I myself have tried before (for fun, though; I'm not a nice person if it was real fighting).



I'll go on about the Kiharas (not just the three main ones) later when I get the notes finished. Until then, offer cookies to your Goddess.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

It's the same principle. You swing around on a pole and hit people. Not a difficult concept, and something that I myself have tried before (for fun, though; I'm not a nice person if it was real fighting).

I guess, though that's not what comes to mind when I think of pole dancing.

I'll go on about the Kiharas (not just the three main ones) later when I get the notes finished. Until then, offer cookies to your Goddess.

What kind? Are you partial to chocolate chip, your highness?

[R.LocK]

Spoiler for Are you pleased, Sumeragi-sama?:

a lot of heavy cookies, so just click here

No, Saflee~ Why would she die...? Sob, sob. Marian and that crazy psycho with Kakine's power are terminators, lol.
These pictures always were spoilers, eh.

[Sumeragi]

About the Kihara Family

Spoiler for those willing to sacrifice humanity for science:

The essence of the Kihara family is the realization of "abuse of science". Although accidentally formed as a kinship, should all the members die there will be others who will take on the Kihara name and continue the tradition of science abuse. Although the family is concentrated in Academy City because of Academy City's cutting-edge science monopoly, should the knowledge spread around the world then there will be Kiharas everywhere. Wherever there is science there will be a Kihara. To make things worst, one of the reasons Academy City has such a monopoly is because it has gathered as many Kiharas as possible and managed them. There are approximately 5000 members.

Being a Kihara means holding up the burden of the "science must be used" idea, and regardless of external environment or the wishes of the individual, a Kihara must love and abuse science. One example is Enshu, who was able to develop advanced scientific theories on her own without never having any education related to science, and there is Kagun, a kind and straight person who brought destruction to a student while working with science. As a result, there is the tendency of any Kiharas being a mad scientist willing to disregard the methods for the cause, and this leads to a member sacrificing not only those unrelated to oneself, but also neighbors, loved ones, family, kins, and even oneself. Even Nayuta, who volunteered herself to Gensei's experiments to save her friends and challenged Mikoto to a fight to test her abilities, could not escape her fate of being a Kihara.



Kihara Enshu

A young girl who goes "Kamijou onii-chan~?" from the beginning. With very little indication that she has a Kihara-type personalty, combined with her role as a comical healing heroine, she's the perfect moe character.

However..... Even she is not normal. While it doesn't seem so under regular conditions, her behavior is probably the most violent of the three Science Kiharas. Someone who is unlike a Kihara yet even worse than a Kihara.....



Kihara Ransuu

A scientist using hallucination. To be exact, he uses two chemicals, Bluefear-07 and Redfree-03 to cause hallucinations. This was the result of one of the Level 6 projects, based on Level 5 Shokuhou Misaki's power Mental Out. Basically your regular Kihara, who has a duel with Loki (another user of hallucination), resulting in a very intense fight.



Kihara Byouri

A completely insane oba-san. With the Dark Matter power implanted in her, she is able to create a bit of Dark Matter for her use. Using Dark Matter's ability to create human matter, she has a skill named Little Gray Mode, where she creates five different brains, each with the esper power of a Level 2~3, and is also able to revive herself about three times after death. She can also turn herself into something resembing a UFO. Probably one of the top level Kiharas.



Kihara Kagun

As mentioned before, he is a tragic figure, unable to escape from his destiny. He has some kind of magical ability allowing him to evade fatal injuries, and uses a beam weapon.


There are also eleven other Kiharas who make an appearance. Their names are interesting in that they all seem to be related to science.

Jouryu: Distillation
Jokuryu: Direct Current
Doutai: Conductor
Bunshi: Molecule
Sokuryo: Measurement
Bunri (Male): Division
Bunri (Female): Division
Konshou: Mixed crystal
Kaiho: Solution
Sousai: Cancellation
Kenbi: Unpolished rice


For reference, the other Kiharas:

Gensei: Reincarnation
Amata: Many
Enshu: Circumference
Ransuu: Random number
Byouri: Cause of disease
Nayuta: Novemdecillion

Only exception seems to be Therestina Kihara Lifeline.

[ellifeedn]

Holy crap, that's a lot of Kiharas.