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Old 2012-03-17, 12:31   Link #581
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because u using enhanced barrage what u looking for is enhanced battery
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Old 2012-03-17, 13:11   Link #582
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Where can I find a Mifu Dragon ? It isn't listed in any of my maps, unless its one of those monsters which appear after x turns from the purple portals. Need them to make Serawi's multi-element armor (or it only appears on her route). I'm currently in the last chapter of Yuela's route.
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Old 2012-03-17, 13:11   Link #583
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Where can I find a Mifu Dragon ? It isn't listed in any of my maps, unless its one of those monsters which appear after x turns from the purple portals. Need them to make Serawi's multi-element armor (or it only appears on her route).

Shrine of Flame. You get it eventually (I think ch7?) along with Kohakuren being usable. It is to the north of the spawn point: need someone who can see hidden paths to gain access. Same with most other dragons, attacks are mainly earth base and are weak against wind. Sniping with Elven bow should level your 3 archers very quickly with Aht blocking the dragon's path.


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Still have to farm mirage forest - doing that place last because of all the projectile defense+big HP/SP/FS drain every single turn. Takes 4FS to move a single tile -_-.

I think for newer players the order should go:
Phema Sluicegate: You get anti-charm accessory there. Monsters spawn slowly and some cannot even retaliate range attacks, not too terrible abilities. No need for special movement skill (except teleport to open up the deployment gates). Mobs weak against Earth elements.

Phema Mountains:
You get anti-death accessory there. Every single mob comes with a range 5 spell that have a chance to cause multiple debuffs (so bring a lot of cures). Requires a lot of rubber bracers+flight.
Anti-charm (faithful) accessory and a good selection of fire casters make this place very easy. The NG+ +hit accessory makes it easier to kill the high avoidance hounds but not necessary.
Note that Yuela's and Eukleia's accessories from Valkyrie Falls grants them Forcefield which can trivialize this map as well. Having some teleportation stones on this map helps. This place has the most annoying mobs if you are not prepared.

Valkyrie Falls:
Everything (except trolls) uses death proc attacks with vorpal counter. Having Anti-death accessories make this place very very easy. Mobs are weak vs fire. Bring a few teleportation stones as well.



// These two should probably be done after two runs of Phema Sluicegate to get characters over lv90+ range:
Mirage Forest:
You get +hit accessory by finishing the dungeon. Mobs all have projectile defense and are weak vs Wind. Big HP/SP/FS drain every turn (Earth typed armor on heroines prevent the drain, I believe Aht and Crayanne are unaffected as well - but Crayanne does not melee too well...).
Shield III, Prevail and Cover, Counter on mobs on top of their projectile defense makes them rather durable.

Advent Bay:
Everything beside non-respawning mobs are weak vs Dark. Angels hit hard with undress III+Pervail. They also come with either Forcefield (no ranged attacks), Seal (no attack skill can be used against them), or Projectile Defense. IMO this place drops the most useful accessories (on a 2nd run) and also each boss drops a decently powerful elemental weapon. I would say this place has the most dangerous mobs.

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Old 2012-03-17, 13:18   Link #584
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Shrine of Flame. You get it eventually (I think ch7?) along with Kohakuren being usable. It is to the north of the spawn point: need someone who can see hidden paths to gain access. Same with most other dragons, attacks are mainly earth base and are weak against wind. Sniping with Elven bow should level your 3 archers very quickly with Aht blocking the dragon's path.


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Made http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=563 a little better
someone edit it into the Kamidori wiki because I am lazy

Still have to farm mirage forest - doing that place last because of all the projectile defense+big HP/SP/FS drain every single turn. Takes 4FS to move a single tile -_-.

I think for newer players the order should go:
Phema Sluicegate: You get anti-charm accessory there. Monsters spawn slowly and some cannot even retaliate range attacks, not too terrible abilities. No need for special movement skill (except teleport to open up the deployment gates). Mobs weak against Earth elements.

Phema Mountains:
You get anti-death accessory there. Every single mob comes with a range 5 spell that have a chance to cause multiple debuffs (so bring a lot of cures). Requires a lot of rubber bracers+flight.
Anti-charm (faithful) accessory and a good selection of fire casters make this place very easy. The NG+ +hit accessory makes it easier to kill the high avoidance hounds but not necessary.
Note that Yuela's and Eukleia's accessories from Valkyrie Falls grants them Forcefield which can trivialize this map as well. Having some teleportation stones on this map helps.

Valkyrie Falls:
Everything (except trolls) uses death proc attacks with vorpal counter. Having Anti-death accessories make this place very very easy. Mobs are weak vs fire. Bring a few teleportation stones as well.



// These two should probably be done after two runs of Phema Sluicegate to get characters over lv90+ range:
Mirage Forest:
You get +hit accessory by finishing the dungeon. Mobs all have projectile defense and are weak vs Wind. Big HP/SP/FS drain every turn (Earth typed armor on heroines prevent the drain, I believe Aht and Crayanne are unaffected as well - but Crayanne does not melee too well...).

Advent Bay:
Everything beside non-respawning mobs are weak vs Dark. Angels hit hard with undress III+Pervail. They also come with either Forcefield (no ranged attacks), Seal (no attack skill can be used against them), or Projectile Defense. IMO this place drops the most useful accessories (on a 2nd run) and also each boss drops a decently powerful elemental weapon.
also note that seraphim and cherubim have reflect it not list in the monster info i think it have to do with their weapon
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Old 2012-03-17, 13:21   Link #585
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Are there any consequences for using deadbeat?
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Old 2012-03-17, 13:30   Link #586
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Are there any consequences for using deadbeat?
You get labelled as a deadbeat, will feel terrible until you beat the king putteto at the end (lv70) - not sure if that's a NG+ only thing.

I actually cleared deadbeat for the first time yesterday and it was... a lot easier than I expected.
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Old 2012-03-17, 13:35   Link #587
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What does being labeled as deadbeat does to me?

I'm already feeling terrible :\
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Old 2012-03-17, 13:39   Link #588
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What does being labeled as deadbeat does to me?

I'm already feeling terrible :\
Gameplay wise, nothing. It just makes you (the player) feel terrible for using the deadbeat dungeon.
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Old 2012-03-17, 13:40   Link #589
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It's working alright..
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Old 2012-03-17, 15:25   Link #590
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One question. Does anyone know where and who has the rare item exclusively for party members?
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Old 2012-03-17, 15:28   Link #591
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One question. Does anyone know where and who has the rare item exclusively for party members?
dagger take his time and make a list already look at it http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=563
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Old 2012-03-17, 15:56   Link #592
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Just finished farming every single one of those accessories.
Technically Lily has 2 of them: the soul and the doll. Doll is nice for the Trophy Hunter (which is +10str/int) making it a +15str vs bosses (which is everything in lv90 dungeons). However at the same time there are other accessories such as Bullseye ring which gives +25 crit.

Desperation bracers on Lily is not that good because Bloodsuck should keep her at max health all the time. While bloodsuck I and II may suck in the lower levels, bloodsuck III's guaranteed proc+higher dps on your character makes it the best defensive skill there is imo.
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Old 2012-03-17, 16:02   Link #593
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Just finished farming every single one of those accessories.
Technically Lily has 2 of them: the soul and the doll. Doll is nice for the Trophy Hunter (which is +10str/int) making it a +15str vs bosses (which is everything in lv90 dungeons). However at the same time there are other accessories such as Bullseye ring which gives +25 crit.

Desperation bracers on Lily is not that good because Bloodsuck should keep her at max health all the time. While bloodsuck I and II may suck in the lower levels, bloodsuck III's guaranteed proc+higher dps on your character makes it the best defensive skill there is imo.
hey dagger have u manage to figure out what bahamut 3rd drop is yet?
and does anyone know who the 4 th monster that able to drop angel beads so far i only know these 3: elizasleyn, principatus ,and voice of god.
also where to get Athena gem

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Old 2012-03-17, 16:51   Link #594
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hey dagger have u manage to figure out what bahamut 3rd drop is yet?
and does anyone know who the 4 th monster that able to drop angel beads so far i only know these 3: elizasleyn, principatus ,and voice of god.
also where to get Athena gem
I edited my post: its the accessory for Roka.


my info says Tainted Angel drops beads @ Yuidoria mine with base lv80. Cant check which one atm as I am inside a dungeon. Will edit that in "soon" (tm).

I am guessing Athena gem is the +int gem (it is the only missing gem). I guess its am Emelita route only thing?

Poor Emelita getting neglected in our games...
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Old 2012-03-17, 16:59   Link #595
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I edited my post: its the accessory for Roka.


my info says Tainted Angel drops beads @ Yuidoria mine with base lv80. Cant check which one atm as I am inside a dungeon. Will edit that in "soon" (tm).

I am guessing Athena gem is the +int gem (it is the only missing gem). I guess its am Emelita route only thing?

Poor Emelita getting neglected in our games...
There are two Tainted Angels in Sharty's challenge level. That's not a good spot to farm though, the other place they appear is the second level 95 dungeon that is the end of the Asmodeus questline, there are two portals there that spawn them. I got 6 angel beads just doing the mission fast and closing the portals asap. It's the Room of Legensaad. You have to have completed every other mine level to get it.

Also I think Sharty's item is crafted, I remember seeing materials for it, requires bags of gems, and some other stuff.

I chose to do Emelita's route last when I was told she had the best story. I really enjoy doing these 90 dungeons though, the recipes they unlock sometimes include weapons for Lily, Golem and Leguna that I can make a bunch of because of a stock of mats. Stone Golem's gauntlets especially seem to sell for a lot. After I finished Mirage Forest I got to put about 1.2m worth of stuff up. Surprisingly Phinilly could actually range nuke them pretty good despite projectile defense because of the element advantage.
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Old 2012-03-17, 17:01   Link #596
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I edited my post: its the accessory for Roka.


my info says Tainted Angel drops beads @ Yuidoria mine with base lv80. Cant check which one atm as I am inside a dungeon. Will edit that in "soon" (tm).

I am guessing Athena gem is the +int gem (it is the only missing gem). I guess its am Emelita route only thing?

Poor Emelita getting neglected in our games...
i seen ur post on bahamut but he also able to drop 1 more item do u might know what is it?
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Old 2012-03-17, 17:10   Link #597
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i seen ur post on bahamut but he also able to drop 1 more item do u might know what is it?


Not very useful at all.


The japanese NG+ map site was moved:
http://chaosmemo.net/kamidori/kamidori_dungeon.html
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Old 2012-03-17, 17:12   Link #598
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Arena Special Battle -- Rank M. What the hell. Seriously. Am I doing something wrong or is this match ridiculously difficult? Any characters capable of killing the enemies can't handle the damage, and those who can endure the attacks, can't deal enough damage to kill the monsters. So uh, yeah, help please.

After a bit of grinding, all of my party is within the lv40-lv42 range. Sharty is awsum. :>

The latest discussion makes me want to focus on Emelita instead of Serawi in my next playthrough.
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Old 2012-03-17, 17:16   Link #599
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Arena Special Battle -- Rank M. What the hell. Seriously. Am I doing something wrong or is this match ridiculously difficult? Any characters capable of killing the enemies can't handle the damage, and those who can endure the attacks, can't deal enough damage to kill the monsters. So uh, yeah, help please.

After a bit of grinding, all of my party is within the lv40-lv42 range. Sharty is awsum. :>

The latest discussion makes me want to focus on Emelita instead of Serawi in my next playthrough.
um u might want try yuela with earth armor evade shield focus on strength and evade
were u able to upgrade her sword to crescent moon it have disruptor good again melkaviel
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Old 2012-03-17, 17:19   Link #600
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God! I am already lost in the party usable items because even if the item is at 0, also not being used by anyone, there is still the damn picture of it. Each new item to put in your inventory the icon stays there.

Can anyone tell me what does the Con attribute do?
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