AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2012-03-21, 08:04   Link #1541
Kanon
Kana Hanazawa ♥
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon View Post
Its so sad that kids these days don't dream of final frontiers and exploration, but are fixed on tsundere boobs and pants...
It's not like kids are the ones buying (overpriced) anime. Mouretsu Pirates' lack of popularity has little to do with a generation gap.
__________________
Mikan & Yami
Kanon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 08:50   Link #1542
sa547
Senior Member
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Philippines
Age: 37
^
I think it's those shows with overpowered heroes who talk about superhuman fighting techniques and then trying to beat the hell out of each other till one of them bleeds.

Still, in a world largely dominated by shonen shows, there will be a very interested audience, however little their numbers are, for those who want to see more shows like MoP.
__________________
sa547 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 09:56   Link #1543
Random Wanderer
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
I don't care about sales figures for silly overpriced Japanese releases. Bring it out for a reasonable price in the US and I will pay money for this series. There are never enough decent semi-hard sci-fi anime to go around.

Of course, I realize that if it doesn't sell well in Japan it will probably never be sold on DVD or Blu-Ray in the US, so I probably should care about Japanese sales figures. But the prices those guys charge are just ludicrous, so I have a hard time thinking that they have any real connection to reality.
Random Wanderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 10:06   Link #1544
MeisterBabylon
~ Ping For Effect ~
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Golden Throne
Age: 28
What a catch-22 we're in, eh? I'm just worried that we _won't_ get a 2nd season because of this tanking.
__________________

On money: Every man has a price. For everything else, there's MakoCard.
MeisterBabylon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 10:23   Link #1545
Random Wanderer
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
They're already got the timeslot for a 26-episode series, and all the material is already made (since the series was meant to air a year ago), so I don't think we have to worry about them cutting us off at episode 13, if that's what you mean. All the money for that has already been spent, so there's no reason to not finish the series.
Random Wanderer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 10:55   Link #1546
Dextro
He Without a Title
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lisbon, Portugal
Age: 27
Send a message via Skype™ to Dextro
Quote:
Originally Posted by 00Coyote View Post
I've always though the pricing structure, and how they market and place anime DVD/BluRays is a horrible way to do business. The absurd price + low content of the discs narrows their customer base to a very small niche market.

It comes down to perceived value.

Take 'Ben-to' or 'Yuru Yuri' or 'Denpa Onna ....' all three of those shows I enjoyed immensely, I would love to see more of them (Yuru Yuri is getting a 2nd season) and I'd really like to support the companies who did all the work animating such fine shows ... but I didn't think they were spectacular enough to drop $500+shipping per show just to have the discs sitting on my shelf*

There are a whole lot of decent shows, a handful of good shows, and a few really spectacular ones, but how their pricing structure works, you have to be fanatical about a show to buy it, so I guess they end up turning away 80-90% of their potential customer base.

And they base their whole industry on this. I'm really surprised any anime gets made at all.


*To watch a BluRay, or a R2 DVD I have to beak the law, to use a product that I legally purchased. Not to mention the time/HD space/annoyance factor of ripping, de-DMRing, transcoding plus adding the subs in.... I have to shake my head at the Media Industry, and why they choose to treat their paying customers as criminals.

Ranting a bit more...

And the mostly dead US anime industry seems to pick the most mediocre shows to license, and then saddle the whole process with the expensive dub production, which usually ends up being underwhelming. I really want a Japanese producer to wake up one morning and realize *shock* If we lower the price on these discs, we'd sell a whole lot more, sure we'll make less per disc, but the volume sales will far surpass the measly returns we were getting. And, what if we included an English subtitle (since we already have it timed from Crunchyroll) for those crazy Gaijin who happen to like these shows. We don't have to cater to 'Mainstream' but having the subtitles on a reasonably priced disc greatly expands our potential customer base. Brilliant!

But alas, the world isn't that sane.
I think you should read this: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-07 It's actually a pretty decent piece that explains everything you just mentioned and explains why the current model is what it is. I'm as unhappy about it as you but there's quite a long history of why lowering prices doesn't bring in the kind of volumes we think it should.
__________________

Dextro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 15:26   Link #1547
Endless Soul
Megane girl fan
 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
Age: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by 00Coyote View Post
And the mostly dead US anime industry seems to pick the most mediocre shows to license, and then saddle the whole process with the expensive dub production, which usually ends up being underwhelming. I really want a Japanese producer to wake up one morning and realize *shock* If we lower the price on these discs, we'd sell a whole lot more, sure we'll make less per disc, but the volume sales will far surpass the measly returns we were getting. And, what if we included an English subtitle (since we already have it timed from Crunchyroll) for those crazy Gaijin who happen to like these shows. We don't have to cater to 'Mainstream' but having the subtitles on a reasonably priced disc greatly expands our potential customer base. Brilliant!

But alas, the world isn't that sane.
Sounds like a great plan to me.

Endless " Crazy Gaijin who happen to like these shows" Soul
__________________
VF-19 and VF-22S from Macross Plus
Signature by ganbaru
Endless Soul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 15:32   Link #1548
Kyuu
=^^=
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 42 10' N (Latitude) 87 33' W (Longitude)
Age: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Wanderer View Post
I don't care about sales figures for silly overpriced Japanese releases. Bring it out for a reasonable price in the US and I will pay money for this series. There are never enough decent semi-hard sci-fi anime to go around.

Of course, I realize that if it doesn't sell well in Japan it will probably never be sold on DVD or Blu-Ray in the US, so I probably should care about Japanese sales figures. But the prices those guys charge are just ludicrous, so I have a hard time thinking that they have any real connection to reality.
And this is one reason - among many - for my wish for anime to develop in the US - as in, domestic anime production. But, I fear: I may have to be dead before anything remotely close like that happening.
Kyuu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 15:39   Link #1549
Ithekro
Space Battleship
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
Age: 36
As someone that has been fooling around with Trek fiction for a long time, I can pretty much find a way to get almost anything I want into the lore and make it work. I can even get the JJA version of the starships to work with say the FASA setting of Star Trek. Or even the Star Fleet Battles version of Star Trek. It is even viable within Canon Star Trek. 2258 is a ways before the late 2260s..enough time for Mr. Scott to give Enterprise a refit to make her look like she normally does.


Space is vast. If one is willing to imagine things, everything can work. Just set it in a different galaxy. Who's going to be able to prove it? There are billions of galaxies out there with billions of stars each. Plenty of room for all the stories.
__________________
Dessler Soto, Banzai!
Ithekro is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 15:52   Link #1550
Kyuu
=^^=
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 42 10' N (Latitude) 87 33' W (Longitude)
Age: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ithekro View Post
Space is vast. If one is willing to imagine things, everything can work. Just set it in a different galaxy. Who's going to be able to prove it? There are billions of galaxies out there with billions of stars each. Plenty of room for all the stories.
Are wookies and ewoks furries? Prove it.

Likewise. For Mouretsu, the ship designs (especially the knife shaped Serenity vessels). Possible.
Running around space dressed in 17th century Earth style. Also possible. Who knows? People beyond our own star system may share the same fashion tastes.
Whole planets with Earth-like weather that's 99% water surface? I sure freakin' hope so.

Crazy royal families? They should be everywhere too.

Unfortunately with this series. We need to see more planets, just to see what they look like.
Kyuu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 18:12   Link #1551
MeisterBabylon
~ Ping For Effect ~
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Golden Throne
Age: 28
But according to the prologue narration, Serenity is a principality with just... seven planets? Did I get that right?
__________________

On money: Every man has a price. For everything else, there's MakoCard.
MeisterBabylon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 18:15   Link #1552
totoum
Oppai warrior
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Age: 26
Send a message via MSN to totoum
Marika might have 99 problems but her Harem isn't one

Images
harem
Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?
__________________
totoum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 21:58   Link #1553
Ithekro
Space Battleship
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
Age: 36
Since they found the Ghost Ship, and we are nearly to the halfway point, I guess there will be at least one or two more story arcs. So plenty of time for Marika to get other missions or get into trouble....or expand her "harem".

There is still what I suppose is the crew of Chiaki's father's ship that we've not seen in the show yet, but are in the opening and credits.
__________________
Dessler Soto, Banzai!
Ithekro is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-21, 22:48   Link #1554
Endless Soul
Megane girl fan
 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
Age: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ithekro View Post

There is still what I suppose is the crew of Chiaki's father's ship that we've not seen in the show yet, but are in the opening and credits.
Wasn't there a brief glimpse of it when it was docking with the cruise liner when Dark Queen Chiaki was playing to role of Space Pirate in Marika's place?

Endless "There she is!" Soul
__________________
VF-19 and VF-22S from Macross Plus
Signature by ganbaru
Endless Soul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-22, 00:33   Link #1555
Ithekro
Space Battleship
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
Age: 36
The ship we've seen, but the crew? Not really.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/...cape-chiaki_ku
__________________
Dessler Soto, Banzai!
Ithekro is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-22, 09:24   Link #1556
Endless Soul
Megane girl fan
 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
Age: 46
Oh, the crew! Reading comprehension fail on my part.

Endless "" Soul
__________________
VF-19 and VF-22S from Macross Plus
Signature by ganbaru
Endless Soul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-22, 12:48   Link #1557
Julio C
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Santa Barbara
Send a message via AIM to Julio C Send a message via MSN to Julio C Send a message via Yahoo to Julio C
I'm thinking of getting this:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/goods/goods...Y=NEOGDS-61307

I just need to know what is for exactly as I never seen that type of goods.
Julio C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-22, 13:30   Link #1558
Forbin
I'm a sucker for Harem
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julio C View Post
I'm thinking of getting this:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/goods/goods...Y=NEOGDS-61307

I just need to know what is for exactly as I never seen that type of goods.
Large Cell Phone Strap?
__________________
My Favorite Anime Quotes Courtesy of Answerman of ANN:

1) By and Large...they are ** and *****.
2) What kind of girls do Anime Otaku males want? ..................... Female.
3) The odds are good, that the goods are odd.
Forbin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-22, 14:16   Link #1559
Julio C
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Santa Barbara
Send a message via AIM to Julio C Send a message via MSN to Julio C Send a message via Yahoo to Julio C
Figures, well I don't have a cell phone so I guess I can't really use it.
Julio C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-22, 15:33   Link #1560
AbZeroNow
North American Haruhiist
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Age: 33
I found on MAL(and I guess it's mentioned in the Mania link a few pages back) that the Mouretsu Pirates LE BD vol 1 sold another 800 in its second week(I know that first week sales are usually the highest and it drops sharply after that). The single "Mugen no Ai" appears to be doing well(how good is 48,000 as far as anime singles go?)

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=415779

If the home video sales are solid, but not specutacular and the music does well(I bet Starchild Records would be happy with that), maybe that's a hopeful sign. I also wonder if the sales of the light novels will increase thanks to the anime, and hopefully the merchandise will sell. I would love to get a Figma or Nendoroid of Jenny. (Maybe I'll just look into getting one of Chiaki-chan if one of Jenny never gets made)
AbZeroNow is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
light novel adaptation, science fiction, seinen, yuri

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 00:07.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.