[PC/PS3/360/WiiU] Mass Effect 3

[Kaisos Erranon]

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Established by ME, the Reapers' FTL drives are only twice as fast as the Citadel races' ships.

Then they simply don't have any sense of scale. Not that I'm shocked.

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

The technobabble about how all their technology "works" is completely irrelevant to the plot and largely relegated to the Codex entries, which are not needed to play the game at all.

Ah, well, no offense, and this is really just a personal thing, but I hate technobabble in the first place. Frankly I'd rather they not have included the Codex at all if they were going to ignore or handwave both their own rules and established physical laws for the sake of a "better" narrative.

[synaesthetic]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Ah, well, no offense, and this is really just a personal thing, but I hate technobabble in the first place. Frankly I'd rather they not have included the Codex at all if they were going to ignore or handwave both their own rules and established physical laws for the sake of a "better" narrative.

Don't get me wrong, I share your loathing of technobabble myself. I don't think it has any place in the narrative. Star Wars gets away with physics murder because it never tries to explain the tech, and you don't notice or care because it's just fun.

Bioware included the Codex as a bone to throw to the Treknobabble addicts that love poring over fictional sci-fi tech.

They didn't handwave their own rules regarding FTL travel (but they did handwave earlier canon when the exploding relays did not destroy entire star systems as the Alpha Relay did).

What matters is what we see in-universe. We see the Reapers arrive in the Kite's Nest two years after the end of ME2 where they are shown so far from the galaxy that the entire disc fits within the frame. While this is ludicrous by our understanding of physics, so is the rest of the game. The entire "mass effect" concept is complete silliness--dark energy as a Spiral Power analogue is even more silly. It's just ME's Minovsky Particle--silly, not realistic in the slightest, but internally consistent. Magic A is Magic A.

All I'm saying is based on what the game has shown us, the Citadel races' ships should be able to get around without the relays. Not easily and not quickly, but they can still travel between the stars. It's analogous to if a huge army was marooned on a large island and all the airplanes were blown up, but they still had ships. We don't ever see them do this, but that's only because they have no reason to--the relays are so much faster it'd be pointless not to use them. A trip that might take months, years or decades is completed in a matter of moments.

Edit: Please note that I'm not excusing the ending, but pointing out that the writing in ME regarding the destruction of the mass relays and normal ship-board FTL drives is really shoddy...

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Speaking of which why is it that only the Normandy is the one that crashes? Is it because it's travelling through the relays?

That would mean the entire armada is grounded on Earth. Forgot about travelling to Mars you need to rebuild the fleet

I'd guess that was the reason. The energy seems to be fired in a kind of beam anyways so it probably makes it more violent to a ship's systems than simply being in the star system as the energy spreads out. Of course if that much energy does naturally burn up engines then everyone on Earth better head to the bomb shelters, its going to get messy .

Of course I still shake my head at the Normandy going through the relay at all. Joker sees how its not looking good and pretty much says "well screw it, I'm outta here" ?

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

When was it said that Mass Effect 3 takes place 2 years after Mass Effect 2? I've read that it's only been 6 months.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

All I'm saying is based on what the game has shown us, the Citadel races' ships should be able to get around without the relays. Not easily and not quickly, but they can still travel between the stars.

Fair enough, yeah. Their lack of a proper sense of scale just bugs me, that's all.

[Terrestrial Dream]

My respond to the Mass Effect 3 ending

That was just...

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

I believe this video fully addresses how the fans who dislike the ending are feeling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90x08...8Bnb2Fh-j9MMPQ

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Originally Posted by BetoJR

This is actually kinda nice.

Would love to see a dual screen WP of that.

[Kyero Fox]

Would take a few minutes to make a maleshep version of that picture. and is it safe for Garrus to be eating watermellon? >_> We can only guess what Mordin is singing.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Sif male Shep.

Also, something an ME writer said about the ending, you may or may not have seen.

[Kyero Fox]

Sif? >_>

and Wow So much stuff about this. I hope in the next Bioware game they will be more careful.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

You know, the more I thought about it, the more I feel like I can draw parallels between Mass Effect and recent events concerning the ending.

The Mass Effect PR team are like the Council of the game, claimed the alleged "Complaints" about the ending do not exist, that we have all imagined it. Just like the Council, the PR team hoped that the problems will go away if they just ignored it.

It took the equivalent of a Reaper invasion, before the Council ever tried to do anything. I sometime wish villains and fools in videogames stay there, rather than showing up in real life.

[Who]

Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Sif male Shep.

Also, something an ME writer said about the ending, you may or may not have seen.

sif? secret internet fatty...?

Anyways, that article's a fake. I saw that one multiple times as well.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

You know, the more I thought about it, the more I feel like I can draw parallels between Mass Effect and recent events concerning the ending.

The Mass Effect PR team are like the Council of the game, claimed the alleged "Complaints" about the ending do not exist, that we have all imagined it. Just like the Council, the PR team hoped that the problems will go away if they just ignored it.

It took the equivalent of a Reaper invasion, before the Council ever tried to do anything. I sometime wish villains and fools in videogames stay there, rather than showing up in real life.

And I 'let' the Council die . Hope Bioware is considering the percentage of people who followed that option. Though to be fair its not like I wanted the Council to die, they just happened to not survive. It was a tactical decision .

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

And I 'let' the Council die . Hope Bioware is considering the percentage of people who followed that option. Though to be fair its not like I wanted the Council to die, they just happened to not survive. It was a tactical decision .

Bioware apparently didn't think it was a bad idea either, as killing the council only penalised 25 points for ME3. Because saving the Asari capital ship is paid with the loss of Human military forces. This balances it out somewhat.
...And this is because the Council never really thanked you for saving them.

EDIT: You know, I always imagined ME3 was going to end like the finale of the Vandread anime, with a glorious final stand of the united armies of the galaxy. And in a way it technically did... Bioware just decided that it isn't worth it to let us watch the battle cinematics.

[-Sho-]

Damn , spamming 1-3 with Vanguard makes a bug on him , he's in "fly mode" & then he's stuck in the background... and sometimes it can crash the game -.-

[Terrestrial Dream]

Ok someone needs to get fired in Bioware. So far I have lost over 150,000 worth of credits because for some F***ing reason I was unable to get the package. And I was force to quit because I was not able to find any matches nor could I see the leader board. After I restarted the game my credit was all gone.

Seriously the game was great, the journey was fun. But my god the ending and the connection problem in the multiplayer makes me want to go and punch all the Bioware employees. The fact that I had better connection with the demo just makes me wonder wtf is going.

[zibi88]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

Ok someone needs to get fired in Bioware. So far I have lost over 150,000 worth of credits because for some F***ing reason I was unable to get the package. And I was force to quit because I was not able to find any matches nor could I see the leader board. After I restarted the game my credit was all gone.

Seriously the game was great, the journey was fun. But my god the ending and the connection problem in the multiplayer makes me want to go and punch all the Bioware employees. The fact that I had better connection with the demo just makes me wonder wtf is going.

Personaly I think its the problem of the possibility of buying game credits with Bioware points.... in demo this system was not active so less laggy... less problems... but full game has this option so it has to check if you have credits in points and I guess here is where the problem is...

I would be glad if they just removed this bioware points system in ingame store option and leave only buy via owned credits... faster the process and less laggy

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

Ok someone needs to get fired in Bioware. So far I have lost over 150,000 worth of credits because for some F***ing reason I was unable to get the package. And I was force to quit because I was not able to find any matches nor could I see the leader board. After I restarted the game my credit was all gone.

Seriously the game was great, the journey was fun. But my god the ending and the connection problem in the multiplayer makes me want to go and punch all the Bioware employees. The fact that I had better connection with the demo just makes me wonder wtf is going.

you might want to check your equipment. the store was laggy for me and when i restarted it had bought the gear packs i was trying to get and credits correctly ajusted..

[-Sho-]

Yeah , check your equipment , it happened to me too.