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Hooves · 2012-03-24, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

My respond to the Mass Effect 3 ending

That was just...

Did you say fix it?

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/pos...amer-concerns/

Yet, it's still questionable if Bioware even said they were going to fix it.

Kyero Fox · 2012-03-24, 17:12

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Originally Posted by Hooves

Did you say fix it?

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/pos...amer-concerns/

Yet, it's still questionable if Bioware even said they were going to fix it.

Male shep is doesn't exsist anymore. XD every news page i see about mass effect 3 has fem shep.

I would play femshep, if default shep look like she did in the CGI trailer -_- but sadly /shiver NOPE!

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-03-24, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Male shep is doesn't exsist anymore. XD every news page i see about mass effect 3 has fem shep.

I would play femshep, if default shep look like she did in the CGI trailer -_- but sadly /shiver NOPE!

I would play female shep, except Tali isn't interested in her.

Seriously, Tali is interested in someone who is not just of a different species, but of opposing Amino acds. Why would gender matter at that point?

Kyero Fox · 2012-03-24, 17:32

Same reason why garrus isn't. Why is it bad for a character to be straight no matter what? there are two gay only characters. So straight only characters shouldn't be left out.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-03-24, 17:41

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Same reason why garrus isn't. Why is it bad for a character to be straight no matter what? there are two gay only characters. So straight only characters shouldn't be left out.

I am not questioning that... I am questioning the logic of gender preference when by all accounts, what is considered "attractive male quarian" likely has little to do with a human male. I understand why they did this, it's just a slightly illogical point.

It's like how can you tell the difference between a male and female Krogan without hearing them speak? And we don't even know what Turian females look like.

synaesthetic · 2012-03-24, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

I am not questioning that... I am questioning the logic of gender preference when by all accounts, what is considered "attractive male quarian" likely has little to do with a human male. I understand why they did this, it's just a slightly illogical point.

It's like how can you tell the difference between a male and female Krogan without hearing them speak? And we don't even know what Turian females look like.

He's just butthurt like all those DA2 fans that raged because Anders hit on them.

Random Wanderer · 2012-03-24, 17:59

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

He's just butthurt like all those DA2 fans that raged because Anders hit on them.

Some of us just plain like Tali, and would like to be able to romance her regardless of the gender of our Commander Shepard. Some of us prefer playing femSheps, and being unable to have a romance with the teammate we like the most is saddening.

synaesthetic · 2012-03-24, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Some of us just plain like Tali, and would like to be able to romance her regardless of the gneder of our Commander Shepard. Some of us prefer playing femSheps, and being unable to have a romance with the teammate we like the most is saddening.

Oh I agree with this, and Vallen's reasoning makes sense.

Kyero Fox · 2012-03-24, 18:32

It didn't annoy me as much as his new personality

Turning tali and garrus bi in the last game would be silly. Kinda still wonna know why kaiden is bbi now and ash isn't. @_@ I guess they figured ash is dead in everyones play through

BetoJR · 2012-03-24, 19:56

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I guess they figured ash is dead in everyones play through

Actually, according to Bioware's data, most people killed Kaidan. Now, it's anyone's choice to believe them, anyway...

synaesthetic · 2012-03-24, 21:03

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Originally Posted by BetoJR

Actually, according to Bioware's data, most people killed Kaidan. Now, it's anyone's choice to believe them, anyway...

Those who don't play ME1 end up sacrificing the squad member of the same sex on Virmire, and the game assumes you romanced the living one in ME1. So if the majority of ME3 players play a male Shepard (which is the most common choice) and never played ME1, they'll end up with Ashley alive.

Femsheps will end up with Kaidan alive if they didn't play ME1.

Storywise if you've played the Virmire mission it makes more sense to leave Kaidan behind because going back to get him would mean doubling back when there's a big fucking bomb about to go off.

BetoJR · 2012-03-24, 21:06

Exactly. I played ME1 multiple times, both as male and female Shepard, and I always sacrificed poor Kaidan, even when I did romance him. Sucks, I know... It was quite a shock seeing him alive in ME3, when I had to roll a vanilla femShep - since the game didn't recognize her save.

synaesthetic · 2012-03-24, 21:11

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Originally Posted by BetoJR

Exactly. I played ME1 multiple times, both as male and female Shepard, and I always sacrificed poor Kaidan, even when I did romance him. Sucks, I know... It was quite a shock seeing him alive in ME3, when I had to roll a vanilla femShep - since the game didn't recognize her save.

The game recognizes the save, it just doesn't transfer the face over. And that bug's been patched out apparently.

BetoJR · 2012-03-24, 21:17

Not on my PS3, it didn't. Still doesn't, actually. BroShep was fine, actually - the multiple saves with all the love interests, even.
It goes to show how much they care about that portion of the fanbase... Sony may have gotten hold of the franchise, based on their relationship with EA, but they didn't get much in terms of post-care, that's for sure.

Nightengale · 2012-03-24, 22:07

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Storywise if you've played the Virmire mission it makes more sense to leave Kaidan behind because going back to get him would mean doubling back when there's a big fucking bomb about to go off.

Really?

Maybe I forgot how the whole thing played out, but in my mind, I saved Kaidan instead of Ashley because ensuring the fucking bomb detonation was the priority at the time, and saving Kaidan was just the bonus that came with it because he was the bomb man.

Random Wanderer · 2012-03-24, 22:45

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Storywise if you've played the Virmire mission it makes more sense to leave Kaidan behind because going back to get him would mean doubling back when there's a big fucking bomb about to go off.

Untrue. You can choose ahead of time which party member goes with the Salarians and which one will stay behind to activate the bomb. I always sent Kaidan with the Salarians, thus he was the one I saved when I didn't want to double back. A few times I did double back and saved Ashley instead.

synaesthetic · 2012-03-24, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Untrue. You can choose ahead of time which party member goes with the Salarians and which one will stay behind to activate the bomb. I always sent Kaidan with the Salarians, thus he was the one I saved when I didn't want to double back. A few times I did double back and saved Ashley instead.

Oh whoops I forgot you had a choice there, too.

Kyero Fox · 2012-03-24, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Untrue. You can choose ahead of time which party member goes with the Salarians and which one will stay behind to activate the bomb. I always sent Kaidan with the Salarians, thus he was the one I saved when I didn't want to double back. A few times I did double back and saved Ashley instead.

Its pretty clear that it doesn't matter who's doing what, its going back to the bomb that's bad.

Random Wanderer · 2012-03-24, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Its pretty clear that it doesn't matter who's doing what, its going back to the bomb that's bad.

Also doesn't really matter. Either way, whoever you go to will live, whoever you don't go to will die. The same basic events play out no matter whether you go back to save the bomb person or go forward to save whoever you sent with the Salarians.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-03-24, 23:43

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Its pretty clear that it doesn't matter who's doing what, its going back to the bomb that's bad.

And you are punished for going back to the bomb. Because if you go back, the Salarians die, and as such you lose some war assets in ME3.

Ashley is meant to guard the bomb IMO, as she got an extra cinematic in her last stand.

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Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 24	Same reason why garrus isn't. Why is it bad for a character to be straight no matter what? there are two gay only characters. So straight only characters shouldn't be left out. __________________

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Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 24	It didn't annoy me as much as his new personality Turning tali and garrus bi in the last game would be silly. Kinda still wonna know why kaiden is bbi now and ash isn't. @_@ I guess they figured ash is dead in everyones play through __________________